On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote:
I'd be interested in knowing who it is, so I can be sure to
never buy from them.
This is the way to go. Spammers and telemarketers don't do what they do for fun
or malice, they do so because it's profitable. If people
BGPMon.net has alerted me to /32 hijacks. Does anyone have thoughts on
what this might be and if it's malicious or misconfiguration?
Date OriginAS Prefix Type ASPath
2013.07.24 25459 72.52.11.117/32 A 286 25459 25459 25459
2013.07.24 25459
On 26-07-13 14:59, NetSecGuy wrote:
BGPMon.net has alerted me to /32 hijacks. Does anyone have thoughts on
what this might be and if it's malicious or misconfiguration?
My first thought is leaked null routes.Is this even worth alerting on?
We had similar cases. In most cases they appeared
On Jul 26, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka grzeg...@janoszka.pl wrote:
On 26-07-13 14:59, NetSecGuy wrote:
BGPMon.net has alerted me to /32 hijacks. Does anyone have thoughts on
what this might be and if it's malicious or misconfiguration?
My first thought is leaked null routes.Is
What about the 2am phone calls from the guy, who did a nslookup on a
website, and then whois on the ip, who is calling to say his porn site
is partially not working and he's pissed.
imho. The days of having public records like whois/rwhois available has
passed. The data use to be protected
-Original Message-
From: Ryan Pavely [mailto:para...@nac.net]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:33 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
Even the anti-spam army out there seem to ignore 'This is the abuse
contact', and end up spamming all whois org contacts. What's the
On Jul 25, 2013, at 19:29 , Otis L. Surratt, Jr. o...@ocosa.com wrote:
From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com]
Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of maintaining the whois?
Yep!
We registered a few domains and get the same thing, I think it's
something that
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 09:42:11 -0500, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. said:
Even the anti-spam army out there seem to ignore 'This is the abuse
contact', and end up spamming all whois org contacts. What's the point
in that?
I agree. Most of them end up blasting all contacts which is completely
On Jul 26, 2013, at 09:32 , Ryan Pavely para...@nac.net wrote:
What about the 2am phone calls from the guy, who did a nslookup on a website,
and then whois on the ip, who is calling to say his porn site is partially
not working and he's pissed.
imho. The days of having public records
On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote:
You can change anything you want. ARIN ICANN are both member organizations.
Propose a change, get the votes, and POOF!, things are changed.
Err. ICANN isn't a membership organization. It is possible to change things at
On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote:
On Jul 26, 2013, at 09:32 , Ryan Pavely para...@nac.net wrote:
I doubt that will ever happen. So it's time for me to update my arin
contact as this past weekend I got exactly that 2am porn call and it was
quite
What about the 2am phone calls from the guy, who did a
nslookup on a website, and then whois on the ip,
who is calling to say his porn site
is partially not working and he's pissed.
No amount of changing contacts is going to solve this type of problem.
We routinely get support calls, sometimes
On Jul 26, 2013, at 11:05 , David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote:
On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote:
You can change anything you want. ARIN ICANN are both member
organizations. Propose a change, get the votes, and POOF!, things are
changed.
Err.
-Original Message-
From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patr...@ianai.net]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 9:47 AM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
On Jul 25, 2013, at 19:29 , Otis L. Surratt, Jr. o...@ocosa.com
wrote:
From: Warren Bailey
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:59:37 -0500, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. said:
What happen to the days when you could simply tell someone not
interested, don't call again and you wouldn't hear from them ever
again?
It's not just networking - recently I received a cold call from
a local company trying to
On 7/26/13 8:40 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Jul 26, 2013, at 11:05 , David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote:
On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net
wrote:
You can change anything you want. ARIN ICANN are both member
organizations. Propose a change, get
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Justin Vocke justin.vo...@gmail.comwrote:
512-377-6827 was one of the numbers trying to get more information about
my
network and how they could help me.
Which appears to be http://www.siptrunksproviders.com/
Which in turns appears to be the same company as
My opinion: it's the rebuttal.
Sales has come lightyears in the last 20 years, advertising is a direct
reflection of that. If you visit a travel website, suddenly every website you
visit for the next 2 weeks is how to buy what you didn't the first time.
Case in point.. And I'm going to name
On 7/26/13 11:59 AM, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. o...@ocosa.com wrote:
What happen to the days when you could simply tell someone not
interested, don't call again and you wouldn't hear from them ever
again?
Or the days when everything wasn't treated as spam
When the former days disappeared,
Case in point.. And I'm going to name drop, but do not consider this a shame.
I have been looking at various filtering technologies, and was looking at
Barracudas site. I went on with my day, but noticed that filtering vendors
start showing up on random websites. Fast forward 24 hours later..
You are not crazy.
Sent from my Mobile Device.
Original message
From: Alex Rubenstein a...@corp.nac.net
Date: 07/26/2013 9:53 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com,Otis L. Surratt,
Jr. o...@ocosa.com,Patrick W. Gilmore
What happen to the days when you could simply tell someone not
interested, don't call again and you wouldn't hear from them ever
again?
I don't know, but that is part of the reason why you can't ignore these people
or buy from them.
Ever heard of the one bite at the apple idea? Marketers
On 7/26/13 9:54 AM, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
Case in point.. And I'm going to name drop, but do not consider this a shame.
I have been looking at various filtering technologies, and was looking at
Barracudas site. I went on with my day, but noticed that filtering vendors
start showing up on random
On Jul 26, 2013, at 12:54 , Alex Rubenstein a...@corp.nac.net wrote:
Case in point.. And I'm going to name drop, but do not consider this a shame.
I have been looking at various filtering technologies, and was looking at
Barracudas site. I went on with my day, but noticed that filtering
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:54:21 -0400, Alex Rubenstein said:
The LED billboards on the side of the road displaying targeted
advertisements, based on your proximity to them, because your android phone is
telling the sign where you are.
There's 6 other drivers within range. What set of targeted
Blink twice? Is this 1996?
I expect it to read my face like animals do. I simply do not care if it results
in me riding in the Virgin spaceship. ;)
Sent from my Mobile Device.
Original message
From: Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com
Date: 07/26/2013 10:10 AM (GMT-08:00)
To:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Ryan Pavely [mailto:para...@nac.net]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:33 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
Even the anti-spam army out there seem to ignore 'This is the abuse
contact', and
On July 26, 2013 at 13:06 valdis.kletni...@vt.edu (valdis.kletni...@vt.edu)
wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:54:21 -0400, Alex Rubenstein said:
The LED billboards on the side of the road displaying targeted
advertisements, based on your proximity to them, because your android
phone is
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On Jul 26, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote:
Err. ICANN isn't a membership organization. It is possible to change things
at ICANN, but the mechanisms are ... different and much slower (since it
involves getting consensus in a multi-stakeholder
NANOG : network operators are precisely those who directly assisted in creating
the 'magic lamp' and the cork which held the marketing Jeanie inside. The same
operators who took the cork out and rubbed the 'magic lamp'... The Jeanie is
now out of the bottle and you all are complaining about it,
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:42:18AM -0700, goe...@anime.net wrote:
Because your mail servers are broken. Because you put spamfilters on
your abuse@ mailbox, IF you even have an abuse@, which a lot of you
don't. Because we tried calling, and your tier1 are clueless.
Fix your mailservers. Train
-Original Message-
From: Rich Kulawiec [mailto:r...@gsp.org]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 2:23 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:42:18AM -0700, goe...@anime.net wrote:
Because your mail servers are broken. Because you put spamfilters on
On Jul 26, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote:
Suggestion: Put tagged addresses and, if possible, phone numbers in your ARIN
whois and other public records. When someone emails that address or calls
that number, make sure you put them on a never buy from list, and
--- wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote:
From: Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com
It's called retargeting and they are using cookies to do it.
--
So, properly manage your cookies and this will stop:
Flash
On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. o...@ocosa.com wrote:
Why can't we implement a method where you have to be a registered, and
paying, user/member with an AS number to be able to get IP whois
'contact' info? Sure list my name and company. But keep my email and
phone number
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I'm just saying.. It happens more frequently which means it will be the next
subject of legislation.. Spam (unsolicited) has been pretty well taken care of
from my perspective.. I rarely see the madness I saw only 10 years ago. Someone
pointed out earlier that we were bitching about the problem
On 7/26/13, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:
ARIN will run the Whois database however you folks collectively want it run.
Write up the change you seek (should be fairly easy), show rough consensus
in the community for the change (slightly more difficult task), and then,
I personally think
On Jul 26, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote:
If someone studies that and finds there is a correlation to spam based
on WHOIS listing alone,
then perhaps
No study has been conducted, but we do receive a small number of complaints
each year about email contact
I actually think it's important to have contact information publicly
available. I realize this opens the door for abuse, but I've found that
using a call screening service (Google Voice) at least provides a bit of
shield.
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Justin Vocke justin.vo...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Larry Stites wrote:
NANOG : network operators are precisely those who directly assisted in
creating the 'magic lamp' and the cork which held the marketing Jeanie
inside. The same operators who took the cork out and rubbed the 'magic
lamp'... The Jeanie is now out of the
Said the Network Engineer of The City of San Francisco..
Sent from my Mobile Device.
Original message
From: Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org
Date: 07/26/2013 6:17 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Larry Stites nc...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
On 7/26/13, Matt Hite li...@beatmixed.com wrote:
I actually think it's important to have contact information publicly
available. I realize this opens the door for abuse, but I've found that
using a call screening service (Google Voice) at least provides a bit of
shield.
Hm.. a thought does
Lol yet we can't use the side cutters cause we all report to the corporate
overlords
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-07-26, at 8:18 PM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Larry Stites wrote:
NANOG : network operators are precisely those who directly assisted in
creating
On 7/26/13, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote:
Said the Network Engineer of The City of San Francisco..
Hey, noone said the operators at the controls don't have to give
the keys up if their owners demand it -- the owners just can't
drive.
If you collectively piss
Because your mail servers are broken. Because you put spamfilters on
your abuse@ mailbox, IF you even have an abuse@, which a lot of you
don't. Because we tried calling, and your tier1 are clueless.
Fix your mailservers. Train your staff. Staff your abuse desk. Then
we'll talk.
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