Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 2020-03-17, at 12:36, Mark Tinka wrote: > > While that does improve availability and performance, I don't > think it really pushes the Internet beyond the realm of "best-effort”. Folks, my supermarket is “best-effort”. I expect exactly the same level of service from my Internet that I

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mike Bolitho
> > If an x-ray machine won't work because the Internet is down, I'm not sure > that is responsible. As inefficient as it may be to have a license server > on-prem if there is an option to check against one in the public cloud, > for a medical use-case, that would make more sense to me. Totally

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 17/03/2020 à 13:26, Grzegorz Janoszka a écrit : On 2020-03-16 15:04, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: There is no other way to do that information filterning now. Nobody has any authority of knowing better than others. There is a good word for information filtering. It is called 'censorship'.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
On 2020-03-16 15:04, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: There is no other way to do that information filterning now. Nobody has any authority of knowing better than others. There is a good word for information filtering. It is called 'censorship'. Times like now are perfect opportunity to limit the

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 17/Mar/20 12:37, Christian wrote: > In theory best-effort Internet is seen as only part of a broader > Internet model including open peering and so on. The idea for open > Internet is it offers a form of digital herd immunity (to coin a > current phrase being misused by UK Government

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Christian
On 17/03/2020 09:17, Mark Tinka wrote: On 16/Mar/20 16:40, Mike Bolitho wrote: I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding of what I'm trying to say here. We have dual private lines from two Tier I providers. These interconnect all major hospitals and our data centers. We also have a

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
my close in Texas sent me "Texas is Bigger than France" magnet, it's on my fridge :-) Le 17/03/2020 à 00:36, Scott Weeks a écrit : --- alexandre.petre...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alexandre Petrescu That map does not show Texas, as far as I know America (USA) geography.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
On 16/Mar/20 21:08, Owen DeLong wrote: This simply isn’t true… Listen to qualified medical professionals, especially those who specialize in infectious diseases and epidemiology. YEs listen to them. This morning they say: everyone can get it, there is no age or pre-conditio. That''s it. 

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 16/Mar/20 21:08, Owen DeLong wrote: > > This simply isn’t true… > > Listen to qualified medical professionals, especially those who > specialize in infectious diseases and epidemiology. > > The information on the CDC and WHO websites remains the primary source > of trustworthy information.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 16/Mar/20 16:54, Carsten Bormann wrote: > I recently had to reschedule an X-ray because the license manager for the > X-ray machine was acting up. I don’t think people have a grasp for how much > of the medical infrastructure no longer works when the Internet is down. I get this, to

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On 16/Mar/20 16:40, Mike Bolitho wrote: > I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding of what I'm trying to say > here. We have dual private lines from two Tier I providers. These > interconnect all major hospitals and our data centers. We also have a > third metro connection that connects

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-17 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 16/03/2020 à 22:55, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit : Le 16/03/2020 à 22:19, Owen DeLong a écrit : [SNIP] Has worked very well for me  in Santa Clara County so far. How is Santa Clara County informing their citizens?  Some website or some SMS (short text message on cellular)? My city

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Scott Weeks
--- alexandre.petre...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alexandre Petrescu   That map does not show Texas, as far as I know America (USA) geography. --- Being raised in Texas in a family that've been there for a buncha generations, I know that at least some

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 16/03/2020 à 23:18, Chris Boyd a écrit : On Mar 16, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: Please tell me about your city: do you know the numbers in your city? How did you get the info? Austin’s health department has a web page with the current confirmed infection count, as

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Chris Boyd
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Alexandre Petrescu > wrote: > > Please tell me about your city: do you know the numbers in your city? How > did you get the info? Austin’s health department has a web page with the current confirmed infection count, as well as a bunch of recommendations for

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 16/03/2020 à 22:19, Owen DeLong a écrit : [SNIP] Has worked very well for me  in Santa Clara County so far. How is Santa Clara County informing their citizens?  Some website or some SMS (short text message on cellular)? My city sent me two paper letters Saturday, but no numbers

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
a tv news report a few hours ago about status in America (USA) says the map is this. on another hand, a close person to me, speaking from Texas, he says 9 cases in his city in Texas.  That map does not show Texas, as far as I know America (USA) geography. Now, it might be that some regions

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Owen DeLong
[SNIP] >> Has worked very well for me in Santa Clara County so far. > > How is Santa Clara County informing their citizens? Some website or some SMS > (short text message on cellular)? > > > > My city sent me two paper letters Saturday, but no numbers about cases. I > had to go to

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 16/03/2020 à 21:58, Owen DeLong a écrit : On Mar 16, 2020, at 13:15 , Alexandre Petrescu mailto:alexandre.petre...@gmail.com>> wrote: Le 16/03/2020 à 20:08, Owen DeLong a écrit : On Mar 16, 2020, at 07:04 , Alexandre Petrescu > wrote: Le

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 13:37 , Alexandre Petrescu > wrote: > > a tv news report a few hours ago about status in America (USA) says the map > is this. > > That’s like a 2-3 week old map of state in US. > on another hand, a close person to me, speaking from Texas, he says 9 cases > in his

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 13:15 , Alexandre Petrescu > wrote: > > > > Le 16/03/2020 à 20:08, Owen DeLong a écrit : >> >> >>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 07:04 , Alexandre Petrescu >>> mailto:alexandre.petre...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Le 16/03/2020 à 14:58, Mark Tinka a écrit : On

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Shane Ronan
It goes down to county level. On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 4:48 PM Alexandre Petrescu < alexandre.petre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Le 16/03/2020 à 21:42, sro...@ronan-online.com a écrit : > > https://hgis.uw.edu/virus > > > It does not say by City. I cant find my city, department not even region. > > I

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 16/03/2020 à 21:42, sro...@ronan-online.com a écrit : https://hgis.uw.edu/virus It does not say by City.  I cant find my city, department not even region. I know all these URLs with maps, I can paste them if y ou wish. I watch them every day. Alex Sent

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread sronan
https://hgis.uw.edu/virus Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:17 PM, Alexandre Petrescu > wrote: > >  > > > Le 16/03/2020 à 20:08, Owen DeLong a écrit : >> >> On Mar 16, 2020, at 07:04 , Alexandre Petrescu wrote: Le 16/03/2020 à 14:58, Mark Tinka a

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 16/03/2020 à 20:08, Owen DeLong a écrit : On Mar 16, 2020, at 07:04 , Alexandre Petrescu mailto:alexandre.petre...@gmail.com>> wrote: Le 16/03/2020 à 14:58, Mark Tinka a écrit : On 15/Mar/20 00:12, Eric M. Carroll wrote: There is good news here. The infrastructure has never been

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Ca By
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 8:51 AM Livingood, Jason < jason_living...@comcast.com> wrote: > > Folks saw congestion from a massive free content drop this past week. > > But as folks had called out, that was the CDN angle of distributing that > content rather than the actual game play. There is a

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 07:04 , Alexandre Petrescu > wrote: > > > Le 16/03/2020 à 14:58, Mark Tinka a écrit : >> >> On 15/Mar/20 00:12, Eric M. Carroll wrote: >> >> >>> There is good news here. The infrastructure has never been better >>> positioned to support this kind of mass event. We

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Livingood, Jason
Date: Monday, March 16, 2020 at 2:10 PM To: Mike Bolitho Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Mike- The TSP program provides for priority treatment for only 2 things : provisioning of new capacity, and restoration of capacity. It provides no accommodations for intermittent

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Tom Beecher
Mike- The TSP program provides for priority treatment for only 2 things : provisioning of new capacity, and restoration of capacity. It provides no accommodations for intermittent degradation events upstream. Source : DHC Office of Emergency Communications, TSP Program Office, TSP Vendor

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 16/03/2020 à 15:22, Mark Tinka a écrit : On 16/Mar/20 16:04, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: There is no other way to do that information filterning now. Nobody has any authority of knowing better than others. MUAs filters yes. (mail user agent) Look at all data you receive, identify

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Livingood, Jason
> Folks saw congestion from a massive free content drop this past week. > But as folks had called out, that was the CDN angle of distributing that > content rather than the actual game play. There is a rather long discussion > about that in the "akamai yesterday - what in the world was that"

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 2020-03-16, at 15:40, Mike Bolitho wrote: > > I think people are vastly underestimating just how much $aaS there is within > the medical field. I recently had to reschedule an X-ray because the license manager for the X-ray machine was acting up. I don’t think people have a grasp for how

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Mike Bolitho
I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding of what I'm trying to say here. We have dual private lines from two Tier I providers. These interconnect all major hospitals and our data centers. We also have a third metro connection that connects things regionally. We have DIA on top of that. I think

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 16/Mar/20 16:13, Rubens Kuhl wrote: > > Most misinformation is being carried nowadays by peer-to-peer > messaging (like WhatsApp) and social networks (like Facebook and > Instagram), so even if a miracle device appeared and was put in front > of all mail systems,  it would have very little

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 16/Mar/20 16:04, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > > > There is no other way to do that information filterning now. Nobody > has any authority of knowing better than others. > > MUAs filters yes. (mail user agent) > > Look at all data you receive, identify patterns, then act. That's all > one can

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Rubens Kuhl
> > > > > > As readier as the Internet is today, part of the mega spread of the > > fallout from the Coronavirus is because information is not only > > traveling way faster, a lot of it is also not (necessarily) verified or > > moderated before being shared with is consumers. > > > There is no

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 16/03/2020 à 14:58, Mark Tinka a écrit : On 15/Mar/20 00:12, Eric M. Carroll wrote: There is good news here. The infrastructure has never been better positioned to support this kind of mass event. We can shop from home, work from home, get groceries from home, order drugs, get

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 15/Mar/20 00:12, Eric M. Carroll wrote: > > There is good news here. The infrastructure has never been better > positioned to support this kind of mass event. We can shop from home, > work from home, get groceries from home, order drugs, get > entertainment, all via IP. The ISP community

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-16 Thread Eric M. Carroll
I suggest the NANOG community needs to actively recognize this risks becoming the largest north american wide test of mass work from home that has happened since I got involved in the public internet back in 1986. It may also drive some permanent changes in traffic patterns as high volume remote

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-15 Thread Stephen Fulton
In $dayjob I constantly see the lack of understanding of the difference between what the Internet is and what a path engineered private circuit is (eg. pseudowire, wave, whatever). The latest fight is over SD-WAN and those who think it will replace MPLS entirely and they won't need those

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-15 Thread Paul Nash
> … as soon as they enter the Province > from outside Canada they are "requested" to self-isolate for 14-days. > This is for citizens. Don't know what the policy is for non-Canadians. Maybe not so much in practice. I landed at Pearson late last night, returning from South Africa via Amsterdam.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 15/Mar/20 20:11, Owen DeLong wrote: > I can top that. I was at a Data Center Real Estate conference some years back > when virtualization was all the rage. > > Admittedly, a lot of the people present (including this guy) were real-estate > types, not technical, > > “Eventually, we’ll even

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-15 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Mar 15, 2020, at 08:13 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 15/Mar/20 16:59, Keith Medcalf wrote: >> If it is "critical" you need a dedicated circuit. If it is "meh, who gives >> a shit", then you can go though the Internet. >> >> The root of the issue is that some idiot did a bad Risk

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 15/Mar/20 16:59, Keith Medcalf wrote: > If it is "critical" you need a dedicated circuit. If it is "meh, who gives a > shit", then you can go though the Internet. > > The root of the issue is that some idiot did a bad Risk Assessment. Hope it > got fired or killed so it won't do this

RE: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-15 Thread Keith Medcalf
ssage- >From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mike Bolitho >Sent: Saturday, 14 March, 2020 12:02 >To: Clayton Zekelman >Cc: nanog >Subject: Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks > >First of all, we use a mixture of layer 2/3 private lines and DIA >circuits. You don't know our infrastruct

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Mar/20 19:14, Mike Bolitho wrote: > / > / > > I work for a hospital, we ran into some issues last week due to > congestion that was totally outside of our control that was off of our > WAN (Thanks Call Of Duty). Now, the issue we ran into was not mission > critical at the time but

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Mar/20 18:16, Mike Bolitho wrote: > Basically that. It's probably more streaming services that could crowd > out what would be considered "mission critical" infrastructure. Maybe > the Netflixs and Hulus of the world will limit 4K streaming or > something along those lines. Basically cap

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 14/03/2020 à 22:17, b...@theworld.com a écrit : On March 14, 2020 at 14:49 r...@gsp.org (Rich Kulawiec) wrote: > > 2. Find all the phone chargers, laptop chargers, USB sticks, cables, > everything. If you're not already obsessive about keeping things > charged, get that way.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 05:17:01PM -0400, b...@theworld.com wrote: > > On March 14, 2020 at 14:49 r...@gsp.org (Rich Kulawiec) wrote: > > > > 2. Find all the phone chargers, laptop chargers, USB sticks, cables, > > everything. If you're not already obsessive about keeping things > >

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread bzs
On March 14, 2020 at 14:49 r...@gsp.org (Rich Kulawiec) wrote: > > 2. Find all the phone chargers, laptop chargers, USB sticks, cables, > everything. If you're not already obsessive about keeping things > charged, get that way. You're really expecting power interruptions due to the virus

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
there is one more thing about this now it is a good time to start writing down daily whether you work at home or not, who do you see, etc. it's always hard to remember what one did 2 weeks ago, who one saw, etc. in two weeks time, if you are still feeling excellent, then you might be really

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:51 PM Mike Bolitho wrote: > I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the > online based games shutting services down. > Next you'll have us actually reading books! -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, +1 (360) 474-7474

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Alexandre Petrescu
Le 14/03/2020 à 19:49, Rich Kulawiec a écrit : On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 11:01:48AM -0700, Mike Bolitho wrote: Third, the trouble we had was a third party service having congestion issues. This is a tiny sample of what's coming. YES and it's in waves. It's emergency, but not like in war

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Hugo Slabbert
Thanks Rich. Good, clear, reasonable steps to have on hand. On Sat., Mar. 14, 2020, 11:50 Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 11:01:48AM -0700, Mike Bolitho wrote: > > Third, the trouble we had was a third party service having congestion > > issues. > > This is a tiny sample of

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Hugo Slabbert
I don't want to get in a fight, but absolutely: Folks saw congestion from a massive free content drop this past week. But as folks had called out, that was the CDN angle of distributing that content rather than the actual game play. There is a rather long discussion about that in the "akamai

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Clayton Zekelman
The access facility and the underlying long haul are telecommunications services. The application provided using that facility may or may not be. The congestion you were experiencing was not with the telecommunications facility itself, but with the application running on it, and was as

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 11:01:48AM -0700, Mike Bolitho wrote: > Third, the trouble we had was a third party service having congestion > issues. This is a tiny sample of what's coming. We're all about to be tested in a major way, and lots of latent problems are about to become real, pressing

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Mike Bolitho
First of all, we use a mixture of layer 2/3 private lines and DIA circuits. You don't know our infrastructure, stop being condescending. It goes against the spirit of this mailing list. Second, yes, the Internet is protected. Both public and private lines. I know this because we have TSP coded

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Clayton Zekelman
The Internet is not a telecommunications service, according to your FCC. If you want predictability, buy WAN circuits, not Internet circuits. If your provider is co-mingling Internet and WAN traffic (i.e. circuits with defined endpoints vs. public Internet or VPN), then you need to

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Mike Bolitho
> > *Seems arbitrary. Lots of networks have lots of Netflix/etc capacity. > Who determines what is "mission critical"? Our mission as an ISP is to > deliver Internet to our customers. If they want to play online games or > watch video, who am I to say that isn't critical to THEIR mission?...*

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Clayton Zekelman
Seems arbitrary. Lots of networks have lots of Netflix/etc capacity. Who determines what is "mission critical"? Our mission as an ISP is to deliver Internet to our customers. If they want to play online games or watch video, who am I to say that isn't critical to THEIR mission? The

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Mike Bolitho
Basically that. It's probably more streaming services that could crowd out what would be considered "mission critical" infrastructure. Maybe the Netflixs and Hulus of the world will limit 4K streaming or something along those lines. Basically cap resolution to 720p for the time being. - Mike

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Craig
Somewhat of a duplicate reply here to another thread... We have noticed as the organization has been sending various teams to WFH, an increase in bandwidth to our various VPN services. It's been creeping up daily. we are in process of upgrading our bandwidth to these areas to support this. On

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, at 04:31, Darin Steffl wrote: > Playing games doesn't take much bandwidth. Downloading games does. So > as long as everyone already has their games and there's no updates, > playing the game is typically under 100 kbps which is negligible > compared to streaming video

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Hugo Slabbert
> The impact of all these bored school kids on the networks due to gaming might cause some issues. I know that if I'm working from home and my videoconferencing slows down because of someones gaming, I'm taking the necessary action (read, change some rules on my firewall). People are welcome to

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-13 Thread Owen DeLong
You don’t have kids, do you… They have the attention span of Koi these days. They’ll play most games for about 15 minutes or so before downloading the next one. (At least that’s been my observation of behavior among my GF’s daughter and her friends). Owen > On Mar 13, 2020, at 20:31 , Darin

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-13 Thread Owen DeLong
My kid has enough homework to reduce her gaming to normal levels. If your kid doesn’t, perhaps you’ll want to supplement it. ;-) Owen > On Mar 13, 2020, at 18:52 , Sabri Berisha wrote: > > Hi, > > I don't know where y'all live, but here in the SF Bay Area, pretty much all > public and

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-13 Thread Darin Steffl
Playing games doesn't take much bandwidth. Downloading games does. So as long as everyone already has their games and there's no updates, playing the game is typically under 100 kbps which is negligible compared to streaming video which takes 1 to 25 mbps. On Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 8:52 PM Sabri

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-13 Thread Sabri Berisha
Hi, I don't know where y'all live, but here in the SF Bay Area, pretty much all public and private schools have closed down. My school district (in Santa Clara County) will be closed until Spring Break. The impact of all these bored school kids on the networks due to gaming might cause some

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-13 Thread Hugo Slabbert
> > I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the > online based games shutting services down. How so? Signed, Someone who works for an online gaming company and has heard nothing of this. -- Hugo Slabbert | email, xmpp/jabber: h...@slabnet.com pgp key:

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-13 Thread Mike Bolitho
I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the online based games shutting services down. - Mike Bolitho On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:41 PM Ahmed Borno wrote: > Its already happening in Italy, and now that schools are shutting down > here as well, its going to get

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-13 Thread Ahmed Borno
Its already happening in Italy, and now that schools are shutting down here as well, its going to get interesting: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/housebound-italian-kids-strain-network-with-fortnite-marathon The ultimate traffic test is coming, looking forward to hearing

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-13 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:46 PM g...@1337.io wrote: > With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then national > quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put thought into > the impacts of this on your networks if/when this comes to fruition? > > We're already

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-13 Thread Ben Cannon
Oh they do, we just don’t like having to explain to our customers anything other than “we’ve fixed it before you called.” I hate downtime. -Ben Cannon CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC b...@6by7.net > On Mar 12, 2020, at 12:04 PM, Fletcher Kittredge wrote: > >

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-13 Thread Keaton Alexander Guger Lair
First time posting, little anxious. Currently under isolation here in Saskatchewan, it was a self isolation till met with a doctor who ordered it, I doubt was at risk, was in Southern Italy as Northern Italy was breaking out. Rather disappointed with the provinces "meh" maybe come in and get

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-13 Thread Brian K Miller
I am on the university enterprise network side and on the state research and education network ISP-ish side. Our users are the ones that will no longer be using either network, and going to their home connections, so my focus has been dealing with "AHHH something is broken" and it being that

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 13/Mar/20 04:36, Valdis Kl ē tnieks wrote: > > (Fortunately, I'm in a position to hide in my apartment and only emerge for > grocery shopping at 2AM until things wind down... Hope everybody else has a > good contingency plan) I generally work from home most days of the month anyway... get

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/Mar/20 21:37, Jared Mauch wrote: > I’m expecting that despite the usual game and download/streaming events, the > baseline usage during the daytime is going to tick up significantly eating > into network margin. Hopefully everyone has your upgrades on order due to > the

RE: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Thursday, 12 March, 2020 20:37, Valdis Kletnieks wrote: >On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 18:08:05 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said: >> I don't know but we just issued travel restrictions to the United >> States as it is now a Hot Spot for the unrestricted spread of the >> coronavirus which causes COVID-19.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread A. Pishdadi
I hear enough politics on social media and tv , please leave it off of this list. On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:37 PM Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 18:08:05 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said: > > > I don't know but we just issued travel restrictions to the United States > > as it is now

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 18:08:05 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said: > I don't know but we just issued travel restrictions to the United States > as it is now a Hot Spot for the unrestricted spread of the coronavirus > which causes COVID-19. Hopefully they're more sensible restrictions than the US policy

RE: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread Keith Medcalf
I don't know but we just issued travel restrictions to the United States as it is now a Hot Spot for the unrestricted spread of the coronavirus which causes COVID-19. -- The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread Stephen Fulton
Mike, For those nets with a higher peak in the evenings, the graphs will flatten out. If you're struggling any given weekday evening, you'll be in trouble from the start. Major events and software releases are what will use up available buffers. IMO the Disney+ surprise was a good thing.

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Just imagine all of those people streaming Netflix and playing COD all day instead of only a few hours at night. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "g...@1337.io" To: nanog@nanog.org

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 4:32 PM Matthew Petach wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:04 PM Tom Beecher wrote: >> >> I like the topic, but I think we should dispense with comments like 'house >> arrest'. > > > Agreed. > > The situation is already plenty serious as it is. > > Let's not add any

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread Matthew Petach
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:04 PM Tom Beecher wrote: > I like the topic, but I think we should dispense with comments like 'house > arrest'. > Agreed. The situation is already plenty serious as it is. Let's not add any more fuel to the fire. ...though, on a slightly related note, I've been

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread Tom Beecher
I like the topic, but I think we should dispense with comments like 'house arrest'. On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:47 PM g...@1337.io wrote: > With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then national > quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put thought into > the

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Troy Martin wrote: > > On March 12, 2020 10:22 AM, g...@1337.io wrote: >> With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then national >> quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put thought >> into the impacts of this on your

RE: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread Troy Martin
On March 12, 2020 10:22 AM, g...@1337.io wrote: > With talk of there being an involuntary statewide (WA) and then national > quarantines (house arrest) for multiple weeks, has anyone put thought > into the impacts of this on your networks if/when this comes to > fruition? No WFH policy here yet,

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread Fletcher Kittredge
Ben; I am sure your SLA's have force majeure clauses. I mean, they must, right? On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:57 PM Ben Cannon wrote: > We’ve already had 1 building delay us access pushing us into an SLA breach > due to COVID-19 fuckups. I mean “procedures". > -Ben. > > -Ben Cannon > CEO 6x7

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-12 Thread Ben Cannon
We’ve already had 1 building delay us access pushing us into an SLA breach due to COVID-19 fuckups. I mean “procedures". -Ben. -Ben Cannon CEO 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC b...@6by7.net > On Mar 12, 2020, at 10:22 AM, g...@1337.io wrote: > > With talk of there

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