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Subject: Re: Re: World's Fastest Internet™ in Canadaland
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 07:56:03AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote:
> You don't think about the size of power lines coming into a house
> as they are overkill
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 07:56:03AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote:
> You don't think about the size of power lines coming into a house
> as they are overkill for just about anything you will do in the
> house.
>
> You don't think about the size of water pipes coming into a house
> as they are overkill
On 30 June 2015 at 22:32, Jean-Francois Mezei
wrote:
> BTW, initally, Bell limits it to 940mbps.
940 Mbps is what speedtest.net will give you on a linespeed 1 Gbps
connection. That sounds more like marketing people trying to understand
"overhead".
Regards,
Baldur
On 15-06-26 14:04, Hank Disuko wrote:
> Bell Canada is apparently gearing up to provide the good people of Toronto
> with the World's Fastest Internet™.
> http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2015/06/25/bell-canada-to-give-toronto-worlds-fastest-internet.html
BTW, initally, Bell limits it to 94
Use wireless. There are reasonably priced point to point bridges available.
--
Keith Stokes
> On Jun 26, 2015, at 11:18 PM, Peter Kristolaitis wrote:
>
>> On 6/26/2015 7:26 PM, Joe Abley wrote:
>>
>>> On 26 Jun 2015, at 15:04, Hank Disuko wrote:
>>>
>>> Bell Canada is apparently gearing up t
>
> > On Jun 26, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Rafael Possamai wrote:
> >
> > How does one fully utilize a gigabit link for home use? For a single
> person
> > it is overkill. Similar to the concept of price elasticity in economics,
> > going from 50mbps to 1gbps doesn't necessarily increase your average
> >
Good for you.
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Irwin, Kevin
wrote:
> Based on our 1Gbps residential customers usage, I believe you just sit at
> home and run speedtest all day.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 26, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Rafael Possamai wrote:
> >
> > How does one fully utilize a
Based on our 1Gbps residential customers usage, I believe you just sit at home
and run speedtest all day.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 26, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Rafael Possamai wrote:
>
> How does one fully utilize a gigabit link for home use? For a single person
> it is overkill. Similar to the co
On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:35:40 -0500, mikea said:
> And just possibly for more than seven computers on the continent.
Note that there's scant evidence that Thomas Watson actually said it - and more
evidence that others said something similar. Also, given that during that
timeframe there was already
On 6/26/2015 7:26 PM, Joe Abley wrote:
On 26 Jun 2015, at 15:04, Hank Disuko wrote:
Bell Canada is apparently gearing up to provide the good people of
Toronto with the World's Fastest Internet™.
http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2015/06/25/bell-canada-to-give-toronto-worlds-fastest-interne
On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Paul Stewart wrote:
The interesting part was that the development consisted of 4400 active
users the last time I heard but the bandwidth to upstream provider was
still only a single GigE and was not hitting serious saturation levels
most of the time.
I'd say for any kind
On 26 Jun 2015, at 15:04, Hank Disuko wrote:
Bell Canada is apparently gearing up to provide the good people of
Toronto with the World's Fastest Internet™.
http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2015/06/25/bell-canada-to-give-toronto-worlds-fastest-internet.html
Bell Canada is in the busines
10Gbps inside the home at an economical price for the phys means IP Multicast
can finally be a viable alternative (replacement for) HDMI.
No more will you connect one Blu-Ray player to One Amp to One TV. You’ll just
connect them all to ethernet.
Amps and TVs will have UIs which allow you to sub
Good points. But just like I won't take more than one shower at a time, I
probably won't watch more than one Netflix stream session at a time
(assuming that for myself only). Downloading a large ISO image in seconds
is definitely a plus, although at the office I never reach a steady 120MB/s
from so
http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Randy Bush"
> To: "Rafael Possamai"
> Cc: "NANOG"
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 3:57:29 PM
> Subject: Re: World's Fastest Internet™ in Canadaland
>
>> Ho
On 26/Jun/15 23:56, Mark Andrews wrote:
>
>
> Unfortunately ISP's have made it about link speed rather than what
> it really is about because link speed was the limiting factor.
When 1Gbps becomes mainstream to the home, I think it will stop being
about link speed (well, for a while anyway, beca
In message
, Rafael Possamai writes:
> How does one fully utilize a gigabit link for home use? For a single person
> it is overkill. Similar to the concept of price elasticity in economics,
> going from 50mbps to 1gbps doesn't necessarily increase your average
> transfer rate, at least I don't th
The issue here is economics. 1G hardware is cheap, as in sub-$100 for
a 1G CPE with SMF in one side and RJ45 out the other.
Even if you decide to limit yourself at 100m or similar, if you build it at the
optics side, it is more expensive than building at 1G.
Because of this, 1G is the most sensi
> On Jun 26, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> Some of those are why would one EVER need more than X, while others are why
> would one NOW need more than X. Big difference. Simple fact that there is no
> residential application that needs more than even 50 megabit much less 10,000
>
On 26/Jun/15 23:11, mikea wrote:
> Define "need". On the average, I probably don't need more than 56 KBaud,
> integrated over all the years I've been linked to the 'Net from home. Would I
> be willing to put up with it? Hell, no! Would I be willing to put up with 10
> Gig to the house for what I'
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 04:01:38PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Some of those are why would one EVER need more than X, while others are why
> would one NOW need more than X. Big difference. Simple fact that there is
> no residential application that needs more than even 50 megabit much less
> 10,00
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- Original Message -
From: "Randy Bush"
To: "Rafael Possamai"
Cc: "NANOG"
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 3:57:29 PM
Subject: Re: World's Fastest Internet™ in Canadala
> How does one fully utilize a gigabit link for home use?
we once asked how a home user would use 56kb, how anyone needed more
than 640k in a pee cee, how we would need more than 32 bits in an
address.
the only thing not rising is water levels. except the ocean, that is.
randy
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 04:30:05PM -0400, A MEKKAOUI wrote:
> Your right. Actually, Bell knows that home does not need that much
> BW, Bell size their network for much less than that. However, from a
> marketing perspective, when Bell says to a client I am offering you
> 1G at $100 and competition
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 01:06:26PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> > On Jun 26, 2015, at 13:02 , Karl Auer wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 13:39 -0500, Rafael Possamai wrote:
> >> How does one fully utilize a gigabit link for home use? For a single person
> >> it is overkill.
> >
> > This se
[mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Possamai
Sent: 26 juin 2015 14:39
To: Eric Dugas
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: World's Fastest Internet™ in Canadaland
How does one fully utilize a gigabit link for home use? For a single person it
is overkill. Similar to the concept of price elast
That comment was made from a customer perspective (myself) while I wonder
if I ever would wanna pay for it, although it seems like it's pretty cheap
already. As an entrepreneur, business, etc... then yes, I agree. Shoot for
the stars and land on the moon. :)
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Karl
> On Jun 26, 2015, at 13:02 , Karl Auer wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 13:39 -0500, Rafael Possamai wrote:
>> How does one fully utilize a gigabit link for home use? For a single person
>> it is overkill.
>
> This sentiment keeps popping up. It's a failure of vision. To suggest
> that "single
On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 13:39 -0500, Rafael Possamai wrote:
> How does one fully utilize a gigabit link for home use? For a single person
> it is overkill.
This sentiment keeps popping up. It's a failure of vision. To suggest
that "single people" or "ordinary people" or any other set of presumably
a
On 06/26/2015 12:03 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
Personally I think it's pure marketing ... something I think we all
know...
I seen a few years back a FTTH development get completed using GPON -
everything in the area got "Full Gig Internet". Speedtest while I
was onsite showed about 900Mb/s downloa
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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Rafael Possamai
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:39 PM
To: Eric Dugas
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: World's Fastest Internet™ in Canadaland
How does one fully utilize a gigabit link for home use? For a single person it
is overkill. Similar to
On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Rafael Possamai wrote:
How does one fully utilize a gigabit link for home use? For a single person
it is overkill. Similar to the concept of price elasticity in economics,
going from 50mbps to 1gbps doesn't necessarily increase your average
transfer rate, at least I don't th
On 26 June 2015 at 11:04, Hank Disuko wrote:
> Bell Canada is apparently gearing up to provide the good people of Toronto
> with the World's Fastest Internet™.
> http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2015/06/25/bell-canada-to-give-toronto-worlds-fastest-internet.html
Only 1Gbps?!
LOL, but US In
Like Peter Lothberg's mother's home :)
--srs
> On 27-Jun-2015, at 12:22 am, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
>
> And yes, "fastest Internet in the world" is pure BS, gigabit ethernet access
> to peoples homes have been around for years in other places
> On Jun 26, 2015, at 11:40 AM, TR Shaw wrote:
>
> But what about us in Northwestern Ontario who can only get dialup, if that,
> from Bell?
Seriously - write to your MP and MLA.
Landon Stewart
landonstew...@gmail.com
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, jim deleskie wrote:
Its mostly marketing, a number of years ago I worked for a cable co, we
knew if we increased BW X we'd see a Y speed increase in usage. We also
has done the math on several future generations of upgrades, so we'd
know if "phone company" increases to A
Parkinson's law of sorts? Use expanding to fill the bandwidth available
One kid with a torrent downloading random stuff, streaming hd and music off the
internet etc and a family of four can make decent inroads into gigabit or so I
would have thought
Don't even start counting say a gb here and
On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Rafael Possamai wrote:
How does one fully utilize a gigabit link for home use? For a single person
it is overkill. Similar to the concept of price elasticity in economics,
going from 50mbps to 1gbps doesn't necessarily increase your average
transfer rate, at least I don't th
Its mostly marketing, a number of years ago I worked for a cable co, we
knew if we increased BW X we'd see a Y speed increase in usage. We also
has done the math on several future generations of upgrades, so we'd know
if "phone company" increases to A we'd move to B. I know the guy that did
the m
But what about us in Northwestern Ontario who can only get dialup, if that,
from Bell?
> On Jun 26, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Eric Dugas wrote:
>
> Nice try Bell.. So-Net did it two years ago, 2Gbps FTTH in Japan.
>
> Article: http://bgr.com/2013/06/13/so-net-nuro-2gbps-fiber-service/
>
> If you read
How does one fully utilize a gigabit link for home use? For a single person
it is overkill. Similar to the concept of price elasticity in economics,
going from 50mbps to 1gbps doesn't necessarily increase your average
transfer rate, at least I don't think it would for me. Anyone care to
comment? Ju
Nice try Bell.. So-Net did it two years ago, 2Gbps FTTH in Japan.
Article: http://bgr.com/2013/06/13/so-net-nuro-2gbps-fiber-service/
If you read Japanese: http://www.nuro.jp/hikari/
Eric
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