Re: Virginia voter registration down due to cable cut

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 2:41 PM Sean Donelan wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Oct 2020, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > spof > > > > the vita folk have a history of 'not really understanding large scale > > compute/network operations' :( > > Reportedly, the VI

Re: BGP Peers Data modeling schema

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 7:55 AM Douglas Fischer wrote: > > I'm designing a tool for provisioning configurations for an ITP and his Peers. > The idea is that based on that, all the configs to all the involved > components configurations to be deployed based on that source of data. I'm > Talking ab

Re: BGP Peers Data modeling schema

see his slides included in the presentation data either though) 3) yang, sure. On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 1:43 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 7:55 AM Douglas Fischer > wrote: > > > > I'm designing a tool for provisioning configurations for an ITP and h

Re: BGP Peers Data modeling schema

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 4:27 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > 1) I shot myself in the foot .. the meeting data I cared about is > directly available on www.nanog.org (or the link to it anyway) > > 2) I meant feb 2020 (which SEEMS like 1.5yrs ago? or 100.5 yrs ago? :) >

Re: plea for comcast/sprint handoff debug help

I hate to jump in late. but... :) After reading this a few times it seems like what's going on is: o a set of assumptions were built into the software stack this seems fine, hard to build with some assumptions :) o the assumptions seem to include: "if rrdp fails feel free to jump back/t

Re: plea for comcast/sprint handoff debug help

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 5:47 AM Randy Bush wrote: > > > Admittedly someone (randy) injected a pretty pathological failure > > mode into the system > > really? could you be exact, please? turning an optional protocol off > is not a 'failure mode'. I suppose it depends on how you think you are ser

Re: plea for comcast/sprint handoff debug help

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 3:09 PM Randy Bush wrote: > > >> really? could you be exact, please? turning an optional protocol off > >> is not a 'failure mode'. > > I suppose it depends on how you think you are serving the data. > > If you thought you were serving it on both protocols, but 'suddenly'

Re: plea for comcast/sprint handoff debug help

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 9:06 AM Tim Bruijnzeels wrote: > > Hi Chris, list, > > > On 10 Nov 2020, at 05:22, Christopher Morrow > > wrote: > > > > sure... it's just made one set of decisions. I was hoping with some > > discussion we'd get to: &

Re: FCC: Staff Report on T-Mobile Outage on June 15 2020

The larger story here is... "7. Routing. Routers connect T-Mobile’s LTE towers to T-Mobile’s LTE network. These routers utilize a routing protocol called Open Shortest Path First." Calling Vijay Gill to the courtesy phone. On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 3:16 PM Sabri Berisha wrote: > > - On Nov

Re: FCC: Staff Report on T-Mobile Outage on June 15 2020

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 11:53 AM Randy Bush wrote: > > > The larger story here is... > > > > "7. Routing. Routers connect T-Mobile’s LTE towers to T-Mobile’s LTE > > network. These routers utilize a routing protocol called Open > > Shortest Path First." > > you can blow it with is-is, just as yo

Re: ARIN hosted RPKI key rotation

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 10:59 AM TJ Trout wrote: > > I believe it's manual, ten years and you need to update the roa. > I don't think 10yrs is correct... I do think you'd be responsible for re-publishing your content periodically though. Looking at, quite a handy tool, job's console.rpki-client.o

Re: nike.com->nike.com/ca

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:52 PM William Herrin wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 1:48 PM William Herrin wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 1:42 PM Kain, Becki (.) wrote: > > > At home, using 8.8.8.8, if I goto www.nike.com, I get rerouted to > > > nike.com/ca. I cleared the dns cache (I’m running

Re: Show NOCs: OIG report: Should you charge extra for NOC tours?

NOC tours seem like a very 1990's thing, that and 'datacenter tours'. "Oh you like seeing people at computers and you can't get enough of that at your home workplace?" "Oh, you also like cages? me too!! sometimes we put 'racks' in them... or heavens to gertrude! 'computers'!!" almost all of this

Re: Show NOCs: OIG report: Should you charge extra for NOC tours?

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 1:36 PM Sean Donelan wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > almost all of this seems like ... really not worth the time for > > external people to bother with. > > which is maybe why: "Sure, you wanna visit? pay me" (O

Re: AS 701 ?

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 7:16 PM Craig wrote: > > Anyone else having peering issues problems with AS 701? meaning: 1) "I lost all routes to 701 paths" 2) "All my traffic into 701 never returns" 3) links to 701 are full, yikes! 4) other ? more info is more better.

Re: Arin contact - DB/whois

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 9:33 AM Tiago Felipe Goncalves via NANOG wrote: > > Dear, > > Do we have someone from Arin who takes care of the DB/whois data here on > the list? If so, please contact me directly. I think you mean: hostmas...@arin.net

Re: public open resolver list?

Curious! (wkipedia random page look): Comodo -> 8.26.56.26 && 8.20.247.20 as-path for those both: 174 23393 23393 16589 6762 3257 23393 23393 16589 $ whois AS16589 No match found for a 16589. (https://bgp.he.net/AS16589#_whois) So, sending your DNS queries into what sure looks like hijacked i

Re: DoD IP Space

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:30 AM Tom Beecher wrote: >> >> For most networks there is almost no pain in enabling IPv6. > > > A startup vendor, formed by long time industry veterans, released brand new > products inside of the last 8 years that did not yet have IPv6 support > because their softwar

Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 6:06 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > > Basically are there places that you can't get allocations? If so, what > is happening? isn't the answer to this: "All except AFRNic announced their pools were empty." and: "you can go to the transfer market and arrange transfer of i

Re: LOAs for Cross Connects - Something like PeeringDB for XC

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 9:19 AM Douglas Fischer wrote: > > I believe that almost everyone in here knows that LOAs for Cross Connects in > Datacenters and Telecom Rooms can be a pain... > > I don't know if I'm suggesting something that already exists. > Or even if I'm suggesting something that cou

Re: Famous operational issues

Long ago, in a galaxy far away I worked for a gov't contractor on site at a gov't site... We had our own cute little datacenter, and our 4 building complex had a central power distribution setup from utility -> buildings. It was really quite nice :) (the job, the buildings, the power and cute litt

Re: LOAs for Cross Connects - Something like PeeringDB for XC

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 1:39 PM Randy Bush wrote: > > > are you asking about something like this: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-rsc/ > > > > Which COULD be used to, as an AS holder: > > "sign something to be sent between you and the colo and your intended >

Re: LOAs for Cross Connects - Something like PeeringDB for XC

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 2:06 PM Randy Bush wrote: > > >> way back, the rirs were very insistant that their use of rpki authority > >> was most emphatically not to be considered an identity service. this > >> permeated the design; e.g., organization names were specifically > >> forbidden in certif

Re: LOAs for Cross Connects - Something like PeeringDB for XC

#x27;" again, that draft is a... draft still and I"m sure we'll have a bunch of chatter/discussion/changes before done, but it smells like it might help. > Would PeeringDB be interested in that? > > > Em seg., 22 de fev. de 2021 às 16:04, Christopher Morrow > escreve

Re: LOAs for Cross Connects - Something like PeeringDB for XC

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 8:50 PM Randy Bush wrote: > > > you can sign over something which ways "the person identified by the > > following public key is to be permitted to ..." > > you mean the fraudlent attacker who owned that INR seems to have signed > this request for a €1.000.000,49 wire trans

Re: OVH datacenter SBG2 in Strasbourg on fire 🔥

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:45 AM Dale W. Carder wrote: > Sadly, the foams are not without environmental impact either with > respect to PFAS. what's the trade off on environmental impact for: "foam fire retardant" (or halon or ...) vs: "Burning plastics and other carcinogen like materials"

Re: DoD IP Space

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:54 AM j k wrote: > > Two questions... > > 1. How many on this list already have dual-stack or IPv6 only in operation? we're coming up on the 10yr anniversary of 'world ipv6 day'.. so I would HOPE 'lots' :) probably that's not entirely a good 'hope' :( > 2. If you are r

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 3:38 PM Mel Beckman wrote: > > I also note that this reassignment isn’t reflected in ARIN’s Whois database. where is it reflected? > > -mel > > On Mar 15, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: > >  Owen, > > I think one cause for concern is why “almost all DOD prefixes

Re: DOD prefixes and AS8003 / GRSCORP

rk Information Center OrgId: DNIC Address:3990 E. Broad Street City: Columbus StateProv: OH it seems to still say that... This looks like any other sort of: "have my ISP announce my prefixes because I can't bgp" (or whatever other reason) > >

Re: Google IP Geolocation

As a note, on the ISP portal there's a place to put a link to your RFC8805 format geolocation feed... these are scraped out 'regularly' and help keep things oriented better for folks. the ietf noc folk use this method to tell google (and other folk who scrape out our data) where meetings are befor

Re: Google IP Geolocation

uite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:28 PM Christopher Morrow < > morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> As a note, on the ISP portal there's a place to put a link to your >> RFC8805 format geolocation feed... >> these are scraped

Re: DoD IP Space

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:18 PM Randy Bush wrote: > anyone seeing roas in 11/8? i am not. > > am not either, I would be curious to know if the RPKI discussion came up for the prefixes in the run up to turning up this new service. I'd also love to know if they are planning to publish ROA :) it'd

Re: Myanmar internet - something to think about if you're having a bad day

(I'm sure i'll regret this, but...) On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 1:48 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > It should be noted that Telenor has been one of the nationwide license > holders for 3GPP cellular bands in Pakistan for a long time, and has > encountered the same issues with regional network shutdowns, an

Re: Myanmar internet - something to think about if you're having a bad day

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:55 PM Bradley Huffaker wrote: > > Censorship does not need to be complete to be highly effective. Almost > all regulation, drugs/speeding/etc, is designed to increase the cost to > the point were “most” individuals are discouraged. While VPNs can be used > to bypass Ch

Re: Tier1 BGP filter generation data sources & frequency

On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 4:29 PM Laura Smith via NANOG wrote: > I thought everyone was supposed to be migrating to MANRS. ;-) > > ...if you aren't cracking a joke about the 15th of 14 standards... MANRS is an umbrella project that is supposed to (depending on where you fit in the ecosystem, but g

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 12:44 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > That is true, but if no one uses it, is it really gone? > > > There's an underlying, I think, assumption that people won't use access speed/bandwidth that keeps coming up. I don't think this is an accurate assumption. I don't think it's really

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 8:48 PM Valdis Klētnieks wrote: > On Tue, 01 Jun 2021 10:10:17 -, scott said: > > $10400 / $125 = 84 months or 7 years. > > > On the high side: 14 years. > > Plus ongoing monthly costs that drags out the break-even. > > The big question is how to get a CFO to buy into s

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 10:37 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > Oh I see where you're coming from. > > "No such thing as a free lunch" is a phrase, basically stating nothing is > ever actually free. In other words, making it affordable for everyone > comes at a cost to everyone. > >> >> isn't much of the

Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 4:11 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > The government entities that I've known of building middle or last-mile > fiber infrastructure have reported that none of the incumbent operators > wanted anything to do with it. Not during planning, construction, > post-construction, etc. > >

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 3:25 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > CAF/RDOF *requires phone service*. The internet was a happy byproduct. > >> >> this seems like a useless engagement in hair splitting for the purposes that don't actually make the original argument void. My larger point here is that some time

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 7:14 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Do you not see the irony here? It's suggested the government comes in and > delivers fiber to every house in the country and yet today we're saying > they haven't gotten it right in the last ~20 years. > > Isn't the request actually to better

Re: Arin taking down raking

what is raking? On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 3:29 PM John Alcock wrote: > This looks special? > > > https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/arin-will-take-down-its-rpki-for-30-minutes-to-test-your-bgp-routes/ >

Re: Arin taking down raking

routes invalid' In case of b or iii I'd expect we'll see some fun times in BGP, either 'a bunch of re-announcement' or 'a bunch of withdrawals and disasters' :) I'm sure we'll learn something though? > On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 1:32 PM Christopher Morr

Re: Google uploading your plain text passwords

On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 1:21 PM Tom Beecher wrote: > They >> snuck it on me. >> > > "I didn't notice this until now" != "They snuck one by the goalie." > > actually, i was wondering while reading this thread... (I mean this for clarity sake, not in a 'blame the victim' sort of way" "Did William

Re: Google uploading your plain text passwords

On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 1:31 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 1:21 PM Tom Beecher wrote: > >> They >>> snuck it on me. >>> >> >> "I didn't notice this until now" != "They snuck one by the goalie."

Re: Google uploading your plain text passwords

Jim, I'd direct you to the bottom of my 1st message that says: "I have no idea how this works, but..." On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 2:35 PM Jim wrote: > > > NOTE: I have no idea how chrome does it's thing here... but I expect the > code is > > visible on chromium.org ? Perhaps even here: > > -chris

Re: AWS S3 DNS load balancer

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 8:07 AM Karl Auer wrote: > On Tue, 2021-06-15 at 11:37 +, Deepak Jain wrote: > > (I’m talking specifically about S3 not Route5x or whatever the DNS > > product is). > > Route53. > > Not sure what you mean by "S3 DNS". I wasn't aware S3 had any DNS > functionality at al

Re: AWS S3 DNS load balancer

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 10:33 AM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 8:07 AM Karl Auer wrote: > >> On Tue, 2021-06-15 at 11:37 +, Deepak Jain wrote: >> > (I’m talking specifically about S3 not Route5x or whatever the DNS >> > product is). &

Re: FCC Proposes Ban on Devices Deemed a Threat to National Security

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 11:59 AM William Herrin wrote: > On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 10:51 AM Sean Donelan wrote: > > The NPRM seeks comment on a proposal to prohibit all future > authorizations > > of communications equipment that has been determined to pose an > > unacceptable risk to U.S. nationa

Re: russian prefixes

it is weird that no dyn/kentik/oracle/etc article appeared for the event, right? like.. did they not pull routes, they just prevented access in some other manner? On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 7:22 PM Baldur Norddahl wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:29 PM Randy Bush wrote: > >> >> https://www.

Re: russian prefixes

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:07 PM Denys Fedoryshchenko < nuclear...@nuclearcat.com> wrote: > On 2021-07-29 20:46, Randy Bush wrote: > >> Looks like it did shown on news only. > > > > :) > > > > i wondered > They have installed devices called "TSPU" on major operators. > Isolation of specific network

Re: russian prefixes

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 10:57 AM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:07 PM Denys Fedoryshchenko < > nuclear...@nuclearcat.com> wrote: > >> On 2021-07-29 20:46, Randy Bush wrote: >> >> Looks like it did shown on news only. >>

Re: Anycast but for egress

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:58 PM Joe Maimon wrote: > > > Vimal wrote: > > (Unsure if this is the right forum to ask this question, but here goes:) > > > > From what I understand, IP Anycast can be used to steer traffic into a > > server that's close to the client. > > > > I am curious if anyone he

Re: russian prefixes

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 3:21 PM Denys Fedoryshchenko < nuclear...@nuclearcat.com> wrote: > On 2021-07-30 18:45, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 10:57 AM Christopher Morrow > > wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 9:07 PM Denys Fedor

Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 8:44 AM Alejandro Acosta < alejandroacostaal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello there, > >The other day I was in a place with a very limited internet access > and I recalled this thread. Sometimes speed is important and many times > also the amount of data we transfer is too.

Re: netflow in the core used for surveillance

On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 5:39 PM Aaron Wendel wrote: > You don't know that I don't know that. > > some probably do? you don't know which though? I think, though, that part of the problem the article does not point out is: 1) I run a network 2) I need (for reasons) netflow data and analysis

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 3:07 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > > On 1/17/20 02:13, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > > From the web: the band 48 (3550-3700MHz) is for CBRS in US (Citizens' > > band broadband service; I suppose something like voice between trucks) > > > CBRS (and the soon to be former NN band)

Re: Jenkins amplification

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 11:45 AM Harald Koch wrote: > > Jenkins, like a zillion other developer-oriented tools, should never be > deployed Internet-facing. > > Reflection attacks inside an enterprise are handled by HR. :) good golly, so glad everyone's enterprise is a hard candy version of same.

Re: Jenkins amplification

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:26 PM William Herrin wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 10:24 AM Christopher Morrow > wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 11:45 AM Harald Koch wrote: > > > Jenkins, like a zillion other developer-oriented tools, should never be > &

Re: Jenkins amplification

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:35 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:26 PM William Herrin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 10:24 AM Christopher Morrow > > wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 11:45 AM Harald Koch wrote: > > >

Re: Jenkins amplification

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:55 PM Sabri Berisha wrote: > > - On Feb 3, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:26 PM William Herrin wrote: > > >> VPN. > > > > I love it when my home network

Re: Jenkins amplification

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 2:34 PM Matt Harris wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 12:50 PM Christopher Morrow < > morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Sorry, to be a little less flippant and a bit more productive: >> "I don't think every r

Re: Jenkins amplification

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 11:15 AM Mike Meredith wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 16:13:34 -0500, Christopher Morrow > may have written: > > My experience, and granted it's fairly scoped, is that this sort of thing > > works fine for a relatively small set of 'persons&

Re: Tell me about AS19111

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:47 PM Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > I do get some results from an online whois or two - *https://ipinfo.io/AS19111 > * > > > > nbty.com is registered with Markmonitor so presumably they’re legit > enough and large enough to afford brand protec

Re: Flow based architecture in data centers(more specifically Telco Clouds)

(caution, I'm just a chemical engineer, but) You appear to ask one question: "What is the difference between flow and non-flow architectures?" then sideline in some discussion about fiber/waves vs layer-3/transit/peering/x-connect I don't think the second part really relates to the first part of

Re: Flow based architecture in data centers(more specifically Telco Clouds)

ngineer and not a peering engineer, but...) > Regards, > > Roderick. > > -- > *From:* Christopher Morrow > *Sent:* Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:24 PM > *To:* Rod Beck > *Cc:* Glen Kent ; nanog@nanog.org > *Subject:* Re: Flow based architecture in data centers(more

Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:28 AM Daniel Dent wrote: > > On 2020-02-18 4:25 p.m., Jared Mauch wrote: > > The members of the QUIC WG at IETF have not thought this was a problem as > > they don't observe it across the board. > > > > The cost for payloads with QUIC is much higher on the CPU side vs TC

Re: Forest HQ Has Received Your Message: Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential

"yes, also received" "thannks Toma!" (and nanog owner) On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 4:55 AM Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: > > Peace, > > nanog-ow...@nanog.org > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:51 PM Dave Bell wrote: > > Is anyone else receiving this spam? > Yes > > > Is there a better way to report this? > >

Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 3:18 AM Masataka Ohta wrote: > > Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > 2 way flow means something on your home host or home gateway. > > It means very little at internet scale... since, in many cases, you -> > > server and server -> you are n

Re: idiot reponse

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:46 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > I send to nanog-ow...@nanog.org, but I never hear back. > > > I had sent this privately but I thought/think: nanog-admin@ I could totally be wrong :)

Re: IPv6 for Verizon FIOS

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:42 PM Brian Ellwood wrote: > > https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32136440-Networking-IPv6-working this is from 2yrs ago. there's no evidence this is either progressing or actually working for anything but some test sets. > Enjoy the read > > TLDR they are doing some

Re: IPv6 for Verizon FIOS

uot; #hopeisnotanoption > Joe Klein > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:07 PM Christopher Morrow > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:42 PM Brian Ellwood wrote: >> > >> > https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32136440-Networking-IPv6-working >> >

Re: Google peering in LAX

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 4:52 PM Curtis Maurand wrote: > >Google's DNS servers are slow and extra > latency makes it worse. odd, I don't think that's the intent of those dns servers though... did you have a pointer/graph/note about how/where/when you see slowness? there are folk who care about this

Re: Chairman Pai Proposes Mandating STIR/SHAKEN To Combat Robocalls

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:05 PM Brian J. Murrell wrote: > So, if my telco can bill the callers for those premium calls, they > surely know who they are, or at least know where they are sending the > bill and getting payment from. You are mistaken, billing is very hard. Telcos show this regularly

Re: Chairman Pai Proposes Mandating STIR/SHAKEN To Combat Robocalls

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:10 AM Bryan Holloway wrote: > > > On 3/7/20 8:03 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:05 PM Brian J. Murrell > > wrote: > > > >> So, if my telco can bill the callers for those premium calls, they > >&g

Re: Chairman Pai Proposes Mandating STIR/SHAKEN To Combat Robocalls

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 1:11 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > > On 3/7/20 9:53 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:10 AM Bryan Holloway wrote: > >> > >> On 3/7/20 8:03 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > >>> On Fri, Mar 6, 20

Re: Chairman Pai Proposes Mandating STIR/SHAKEN To Combat Robocalls

hris > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 12:55 PM Christopher Morrow > wrote: >> >> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:10 AM Bryan Holloway wrote: >> > >> > >> > On 3/7/20 8:03 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: >> > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:05 PM Brian J. M

Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 4:32 PM Matthew Petach wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:04 PM Tom Beecher wrote: >> >> I like the topic, but I think we should dispense with comments like 'house >> arrest'. > > > Agreed. > > The situation is already plenty serious as it is. > > Let's not add any

Fwd: Internet operations during pandemics

Did other folk on nanog-l see the nLnog-l note copied here? I wonder how folk are planning for things (noted in the slides) o supply chain for parts/equipment Wait, I can't get me a new shiny shipped because what?? o ongoing rollout of new equipment I'm deploying next week in KIX, I

Re: Internet operations during pandemics

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 6:23 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > Did other folk on nanog-l see the nLnog-l note copied here? > I wonder how folk are planning for things (noted in the slides) > o supply chain for parts/equipment > Wait, I can't get me a new shiny

Re: interesting troubleshooting

(skipping up the thread some) On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 5:58 PM Jared Mauch wrote: > It’s the protocol 50 IPSEC VPNs. They are very sensitive to path changes and > reordering as well. > > If you’re tunneling more than 5 or 10Gb/s of IPSEC it’s likely going to be a > bad day when you find a low s

Re: Internet operations during pandemics

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:47 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > > On 3/19/20 9:51 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > During this time, however, 'work from home' technology hasn't really > > progressed along the same path, has it? So, "get to the vpn" is still >

Re: South Africa On Lockdown - Coronavirus - Update!

how did 'africa on lockdown' get sidetracked into OTP conversations?

Re: crypto frobs

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 7:00 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 3/23/20 3:53 PM, Sabri Berisha wrote: > > Hi, > > In my experience, yubikeys are not very secure. I know of someone in my team > who would generate a few hundred tokens during a meeting and save the output > in a text file. Then they'd

Re: crypto frobs

on bleach bottles: "Do not lick" or coffee cups: "Caution: contents hot" :( I agree that 'consenting adults' can do this properly, it's when people really want to find their own way thatwe end having this dicsussion :( > -G > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at

Re: South Africa On Lockdown - Coronavirus - Update!

First, for your whole message: s/\s+UBIKEY'/YUBIKEY/g s/\s+UBI/YUBI/g thanks. On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 9:24 PM Owen DeLong wrote: > > > > On Mar 23, 2020, at 17:24 , Warren Kumari wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 8:03 PM Owen DeLong wrote: > > > > > On Mar 23, 2020, at 16:50 , Warren Kuma

Re: South Africa On Lockdown - Coronavirus - Update!

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:21 AM Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > > > Le 23/03/2020 à 23:37, Christopher Morrow a écrit : > > how did 'africa on lockdown' get sidetracked into OTP conversations? > > Like this: when I hear someone tell that her country got on lockdown

Re: attribution

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 7:38 PM Brandon Martin wrote: > > On 4/13/20 4:31 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > > it seems a lot of folk think prepending acrually works. > > I mean, there's prepending and then there's prepending 50+ times... Has > the latter EVER been useful in any way, shape, or form? for ~4

Re: Route aggregation w/o AS-Sets

Don't user as-sets step one. Rpki does not understand how to express an as-sets' authorization. Why do you want to do this? On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 13:34 Lars Prehn wrote: > Hi everyone, > > how exactly do you aggregate routes? When do you add the AS_SET > attribute, when do you omit it? How does

Re: Route aggregation w/o AS-Sets

vering /22 and the customer originated /23 you should never announce a prefix for which you do not have authorization to announce... this way leads to route hijacks. > Best regards, > > Lars > > > On 14.04.20 06:07, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > Don't user as-sets step

Re: "Is BGP safe yet?" test

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:25 PM Tom Beecher wrote: > > Technical people need to make the business case to management for RKPI by > laying out what it would cost to implement (equipment, resources, ongoing > opex), and what the savings are to the company from protecting themselves > against hij

Re: "Is BGP safe yet?" test

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:32 PM Alex Band wrote: > > On 20 Apr 2020, at 19:39, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:25 PM Tom Beecher wrote: > >> > >> Technical people need to make the business case to management for RKPI by &

Re: "Is BGP safe yet?" test

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:17 PM Matt Corallo via NANOG wrote: > > Not sure how this helps? If RIPE (or a government official/court) decides the > sanctions against Iranian LIRs prevents them from issuing number resources to > said LIRs, they would just remove the delegation. They’d probably the

Re: "Is BGP safe yet?" test

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:32 PM Danny McPherson wrote: > > On 2020-04-22 12:51, Andrey Kostin wrote: > > > > > BCP38 website doesn't proclaim anybody in person to be unsafe, but if > > it would be possible to make such test it'd be more useful than that > > RPKI test. > > > > BTW, has anybody yet

Re: "Is BGP safe yet?" test

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 2:03 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:32 PM Danny McPherson wrote: > > > > On 2020-04-22 12:51, Andrey Kostin wrote: > > > > > > > > BCP38 website doesn't proclaim anybody in person to be unsafe,

Re: Google peering pains in Dallas

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:00 PM Kaiser, Erich wrote: > > So it has been 3 weeks of major ICMP packet loss to any google service over > the Dallas Equinix IX, it is not affecting performance of service but is > affecting us with customer complaints and service calls due to some software > using

Re: Google peering pains in Dallas

ith {'status': 'ok'} for testing if there's HTTP/HTTPS connectivity. > It sounds like, to me anyway, you'd like to copy/paste/sed the AS112 project's goals, no? > -A > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:10 AM William Allen Simpson > wrote: >> >

Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

admins, can we can this worm can back and .. get back to work ? kthxbi. On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:29 PM Elad Cohen wrote: > > LOL so much heat and lies from IPv6 fans that don't want IPv4+ to be deployed. > > From: NANOG on behalf of David Hubbard > > Sent: Thu

Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:35 PM Elad Cohen wrote: > > Another member of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project". wait, what? > ____ > From: Christopher Morrow > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:34 AM > To: Elad Cohen

Re: Rogue BGP Routes

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:46 AM Gary Godard via NANOG wrote: > Hi, > We are having an issue with Charter Communications advertising 2 of > our IP ranges. > ... and these routes are: and so you kind folk can filter them from your Charter peerings... what are the prefixes? > We are in

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