Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Cleaning PCBs

2012-01-16 Thread Sean Voisen
Thanks for all the tips. I'll think I'll give the water soluble flux a try on the next go around. I know you don't have to clean "no clean" flux, and I use no clean core wire solder now (Multicore 63/37). But leaving it uncleaned just doesn't leave the boards looking as nice - clear residue - whic

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Beginner friendly VFD PSU circuit

2012-01-16 Thread John Rehwinkel
> In terms of the capacitors, is there a type you recommend if I am going to go > the capacitive reactance route to step down the AC? Besides using a > non-polarized one, is there any material that is preferable to others? If > so, any particular recommendations from online sources? Since you

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Adam Jacobs
The K155D plastic-die version will fit very happily in a standard through-hole dip-16 socket. The ceramic die version is weird and won't fit properly. -Adam On 1/16/2012 1:47 PM, Tidak Ada wrote: Ah, disappointing ! But do they fit in a dip-16 socket or pad if holes are large enough ? Thanx,

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Tidak Ada
Ah, disappointing ! But do they fit in a dip-16 socket or pad if holes are large enough ? Thanx, eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Bemelman Sent: maandag 16 januari 2012 22:15 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.

[neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread threeneurons
There is NO CMOS 74141 or equivalent. Just that simple. The closest that you're going to get is to use multi-transistor pack like a SN75468: >From Mouser: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Texas-Instruments/SN75468N/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMupZfs%2fwBb3DP3ndyInrIQzwHxQzjnmgj0%3d http://snipurl.com/21qmxc

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Beginner friendly VFD PSU circuit

2012-01-16 Thread Dylan Distasio
As I continue to study this stuff, I have more questions...Thanks to all for your patience and generosity in answering them... In terms of the capacitors, is there a type you recommend if I am going to go the capacitive reactance route to step down the AC? Besides using a non-polarized one, is th

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Frank Bemelman
Another difference is the spacing of the pins. SN74 is 2.54mm and the K155 is 2.50mm. Frank - Original Message - From: "Tidak Ada" To: Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:04 PM Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter Ah, that is what it was !! So I can better use the K1

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Cleaning PCBs

2012-01-16 Thread Tidak Ada
1) Its handels IPA 2) It is recycling at industrial grade Both are undrinkable and the tax was alreday paid at your purchase (No production, but cleaning the original). eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Adam Jac

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Cleaning PCBs

2012-01-16 Thread Adam Jacobs
Yikes, yes I don't think I would admit to home distillery of alcohol on a public forum (at least not in the United States). I would at the very least discuss the matter with my attorney. You'll find that the cost savings drop dramatically once the revenuers and police show up. :) -Adam On 1/1

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Cleaning PCBs

2012-01-16 Thread John Rehwinkel
> To save on material cost I have started distilling the used alcohol at > a cost of about 25 cents a quart. Distilling your own alcohol? How does it feel to be a moonshiner? - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to thi

[neonixie-l] Re: Cleaning PCBs

2012-01-16 Thread taylorjpt
I used to use MEK but you can't get that in California anymore so now I use anhydrous isopropyl and an ultrasonic cleaner for liquid flux and dont clean some of the hand solder. Have been switching over to a hot air reflow oven for the SMT which uses a no clean LF318 paste. The simple rule is all

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Tidak Ada
Ah, that is what it was !! So I can better use the K155D. Thanks ! I just discovered that K155 means something as SN74. Found a bi-langual (so also in ordinary writing) datasheet about K155's It's a complete logic family. 34 pages. If you like a copy? The ceramic form is indicated with KM155 er

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread John Rehwinkel
> I think I will have to try with my equipment for now - the big investment I > will do is a decent burner, but I cannot afford purchasing a top-notch pump > and so on. Yeah, I'm looking for a crossfire and hand torch myself. As the neon business in the United States is not doing well, I'm hop

RE: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread Aleksander A.Zawada
It couldn't barium getter if you want use mercury. Barium getter "exchange" another gases to mercury vapour:/. It's recommended "shining" tubes to pump system. RF heating is good, but sometimes the better is "shining". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread John Rehwinkel
> There are enough K155's on eBay and ik can get the SN74141's for only €0.60 a > piece ;-) > I remember, I read (was it here on Neonixie??) there was an output advantage > for one of the two. Knowing that helps me to decide witch I shall buy. There are only two differences I remember at the mom

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread jb-electronics
Hi John, I think I will have to try with my equipment for now - the big investment I will do is a decent burner, but I cannot afford purchasing a top-notch pump and so on. The heaters from Neon John are quite beyond my budget, sadly, but I guess this is really something that could help me a

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Tidak Ada
There are enough K155's on eBay and ik can get the SN74141's for only €0.60 a piece ;-) AVR's aren't my territory, so I avoid to change their program. Ordinary TTL and CMOS logic is managable for me, so I preferrably try to use that. I remember, I read (was it here on Neonixie??) there was an out

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread John Rehwinkel
> But I reckon for light bulbs you need a much better vacuum than for Nixie > tubes, right? Not really. Many light bulbs contain various gases (nitrogen, argon, xenon, bromium, iodine, etc.) and work just fine. Most gases won't harm a light bulb, even if there's some residual oxygen, it'll ox

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread John Rehwinkel
> The schematic is not the problem, but to find a CMOS BCD to Decimal > converter, that can manage the high voltages, needed to drive a nixie. > Last but not least, the nixie thermo/hygrometer I intend to build will > be AVR based, So I don't need counters. I would suggest having the AVR do the B

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread jb-electronics
Hey Dylan, cool video, many thanks. If you've got any kind of spark coil, you don't need a vacuum gauge. The color of the discharge in the gas remaining in the tube will tell you the vacuum. Sounds nice! But I think I like the absolute measuring better because this way I can measure Pasc

[neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Tidak Ada
The schematic is not the problem, but to find a CMOS BCD to Decimal converter, that can manage the high voltages, needed to drive a nixie. Until now I could not find one. The 4017 has the disadvantage, that it has no latch. It is less complicated to use a 4 bit BCD latch, than to latch the ten outp

Re: [neonixie-l] BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Huggermugger
They are equivalent so anyone can be used. Guess the K155DI is easier to spot. Found many eBay-sellers offering tons of K155DI. I have schematics for a digital clock using CMOS counter 4017! Magnus - Original Message - From: "Tidak Ada" To: "neonixie-l" Sent: Monday, January 16, 2

[neonixie-l] BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Tidak Ada
Hi Guys, witch BCD to decimal converter I can use the best : The famous SN74141 or it's russian nephews the K155D1 and KM155D1 (ceramic) ? Are there usefull CMOS alternatives, or do I need then always discrete transistors/FET's to adapt to high voltage? eric -- You received this message because

[neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread dylan roelofs
Howdy Jens- If you've got any kind of spark coil, you don't need a vacuum gauge. The color of the discharge in the gas remaining in the tube will tell you the vacuum. You'll really need a 2-stage pump to attain enough vacuum (i've been using an old Welch for 15 years).. Once the pump has g