[neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread dylan roelofs
Howdy Jens- If you've got any kind of spark coil, you don't need a vacuum gauge. The color of the discharge in the gas remaining in the tube will tell you the vacuum. You'll really need a 2-stage pump to attain enough vacuum (i've been using an old Welch for 15 years).. Once the pump has

[neonixie-l] BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Tidak Ada
Hi Guys, witch BCD to decimal converter I can use the best : The famous SN74141 or it's russian nephews the K155D1 and KM155D1 (ceramic) ? Are there usefull CMOS alternatives, or do I need then always discrete transistors/FET's to adapt to high voltage? eric -- You received this message

Re: [neonixie-l] BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Huggermugger
They are equivalent so anyone can be used. Guess the K155DI is easier to spot. Found many eBay-sellers offering tons of K155DI. I have schematics for a digital clock using CMOS counter 4017! Magnus - Original Message - From: Tidak Ada offl...@zeelandnet.nl To: neonixie-l

[neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Tidak Ada
The schematic is not the problem, but to find a CMOS BCD to Decimal converter, that can manage the high voltages, needed to drive a nixie. Until now I could not find one. The 4017 has the disadvantage, that it has no latch. It is less complicated to use a 4 bit BCD latch, than to latch the ten

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread jb-electronics
Hey Dylan, cool video, many thanks. If you've got any kind of spark coil, you don't need a vacuum gauge. The color of the discharge in the gas remaining in the tube will tell you the vacuum. Sounds nice! But I think I like the absolute measuring better because this way I can measure

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread John Rehwinkel
The schematic is not the problem, but to find a CMOS BCD to Decimal converter, that can manage the high voltages, needed to drive a nixie. Last but not least, the nixie thermo/hygrometer I intend to build will be AVR based, So I don't need counters. I would suggest having the AVR do the BCD

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread John Rehwinkel
But I reckon for light bulbs you need a much better vacuum than for Nixie tubes, right? Not really. Many light bulbs contain various gases (nitrogen, argon, xenon, bromium, iodine, etc.) and work just fine. Most gases won't harm a light bulb, even if there's some residual oxygen, it'll

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Tidak Ada
There are enough K155's on eBay and ik can get the SN74141's for only €0.60 a piece ;-) AVR's aren't my territory, so I avoid to change their program. Ordinary TTL and CMOS logic is managable for me, so I preferrably try to use that. I remember, I read (was it here on Neonixie??) there was an

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread jb-electronics
Hi John, I think I will have to try with my equipment for now - the big investment I will do is a decent burner, but I cannot afford purchasing a top-notch pump and so on. The heaters from Neon John are quite beyond my budget, sadly, but I guess this is really something that could help me a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread John Rehwinkel
There are enough K155's on eBay and ik can get the SN74141's for only €0.60 a piece ;-) I remember, I read (was it here on Neonixie??) there was an output advantage for one of the two. Knowing that helps me to decide witch I shall buy. There are only two differences I remember at the

RE: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-16 Thread Aleksander A.Zawada
It couldn't barium getter if you want use mercury. Barium getter exchange another gases to mercury vapour:/. It's recommended shining tubes to pump system. RF heating is good, but sometimes the better is shining. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Tidak Ada
Ah, that is what it was !! So I can better use the K155D. Thanks ! I just discovered that K155 means something as SN74. Found a bi-langual (so also in ordinary writing) datasheet about K155's It's a complete logic family. 34 pages. If you like a copy? The ceramic form is indicated with KM155

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Cleaning PCBs

2012-01-16 Thread John Rehwinkel
To save on material cost I have started distilling the used alcohol at a cost of about 25 cents a quart. Distilling your own alcohol? How does it feel to be a moonshiner? - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Cleaning PCBs

2012-01-16 Thread Adam Jacobs
Yikes, yes I don't think I would admit to home distillery of alcohol on a public forum (at least not in the United States). I would at the very least discuss the matter with my attorney. You'll find that the cost savings drop dramatically once the revenuers and police show up. :) -Adam On

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Frank Bemelman
Another difference is the spacing of the pins. SN74 is 2.54mm and the K155 is 2.50mm. Frank - Original Message - From: Tidak Ada offl...@zeelandnet.nl To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:04 PM Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter Ah,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Beginner friendly VFD PSU circuit

2012-01-16 Thread Dylan Distasio
As I continue to study this stuff, I have more questions...Thanks to all for your patience and generosity in answering them... In terms of the capacitors, is there a type you recommend if I am going to go the capacitive reactance route to step down the AC? Besides using a non-polarized one, is

[neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread threeneurons
There is NO CMOS 74141 or equivalent. Just that simple. The closest that you're going to get is to use multi-transistor pack like a SN75468: From Mouser: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Texas-Instruments/SN75468N/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMupZfs%2fwBb3DP3ndyInrIQzwHxQzjnmgj0%3d

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Tidak Ada
Ah, disappointing ! But do they fit in a dip-16 socket or pad if holes are large enough ? Thanx, eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Bemelman Sent: maandag 16 januari 2012 22:15 To:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: BCD to decimal converter

2012-01-16 Thread Adam Jacobs
The K155D plastic-die version will fit very happily in a standard through-hole dip-16 socket. The ceramic die version is weird and won't fit properly. -Adam On 1/16/2012 1:47 PM, Tidak Ada wrote: Ah, disappointing ! But do they fit in a dip-16 socket or pad if holes are large enough ?

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Beginner friendly VFD PSU circuit

2012-01-16 Thread John Rehwinkel
In terms of the capacitors, is there a type you recommend if I am going to go the capacitive reactance route to step down the AC? Besides using a non-polarized one, is there any material that is preferable to others? If so, any particular recommendations from online sources? Since you'll

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Cleaning PCBs

2012-01-16 Thread Sean Voisen
Thanks for all the tips. I'll think I'll give the water soluble flux a try on the next go around. I know you don't have to clean no clean flux, and I use no clean core wire solder now (Multicore 63/37). But leaving it uncleaned just doesn't leave the boards looking as nice - clear residue - which