[neonixie-l] Re: Anniversary party?

2012-01-19 Thread threeneurons
Back when the neighborhood use to throw 4th-of-July block parties, we'd just plop a keg of beer at each end of the street, and a crowd would form in short order. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email

[neonixie-l] Re: Synchronous Alternators and motors

2012-01-19 Thread threeneurons
On Jan 19, 1:55 am, lai...@wcoil.com wrote: > 3 years in > the Engineering Test Lab I can pass on a little information on alternator > speeds.  On a sychronous alternator the rotor operates with DC excitation, ... > Tim I remember we had a synchronous machine in our university's power lab. Th

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-19 Thread dr pepper
Interesting. Yes the grid frequency drops when the generating station is overloaded, the gensets slow down and the output frequency depends on ratational speed, theres an online gizmo for the uk that shows the current frequency, it says at the lower end 'overloaded'. This side of the pond you can g

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anniversary party?

2012-01-19 Thread Michail1
My battery just died over the last week. :( Bunny provides free batteries, right? :) Michail In a message dated 1/19/2012 12:34:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, n...@desmith.net writes: No - perhaps people with Nixie Watches can post photos of them? I still have my pre-production pro

[neonixie-l] Re: Anniversary party?

2012-01-19 Thread Nick
On Jan 19, 6:03 pm, David Forbes wrote: > This group will be 10 years old on the 27th of this month. That's only a > week! Well, its just over 2 years since I opened this new version to original members (16th Jan 2010) - I actually started the Google group in August 2004, but it was very lonely!

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-19 Thread taylorjpt
Here is the modification for 50Hz: http://www.tayloredge.com/storefront/1384_TIClock/1384_60-to-50Hz_Conversion.pdf Note that there are some errors in the original schematic, cleaned up schematic here: http://www.tayloredge.com/storefront/1384_TIClock/1384.pdf jt -- You received this message be

[neonixie-l] Anniversary party?

2012-01-19 Thread David Forbes
This group will be 10 years old on the 27th of this month. That's only a week! Does anyone have any plans for a Nixie tube-themed party? -- David Forbes, Tucson AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an e

[neonixie-l] Two F9090AA Nixie tubes for sale

2012-01-19 Thread jb-electronics
Hi folks, I have two new F9090AA Nixie tubes for sale, just like this one: http://www.jb-electronics.de/html/elektronik/nixies/n_f9090aa.htm?lang=en Anyone who is interested: please feel free to contact me. Best regards, Jens -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

Re: [neonixie-l] Synchronous Alternators and motors

2012-01-19 Thread Instrument Resources of America
Hello Tim, What fond memories this brought back. Many years ago a good friend of mine who worked for the electric company took me into a small unmanned powerhouse, and let me bring up the D.C. exciter first, and then one of the fairly good sized alternators. With lots of instruction he the

[neonixie-l] Re: Synchronous Alternators and motors

2012-01-19 Thread neutron spin
In my past life at an operating nuclear power plant when we brought the unit back on the grid we still used the synchroscope method...no flashing bulbs just a nice analog meter that indicated the generator was in phase. Then manually closing the main breakers and hopefully everything worked well.

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-19 Thread GastonP
> > have a Nixie clock based on that (uses mains frequency), and I can > > tell you that it is not true at my outlets!  The clock loses a few > > minutes every day, which makes it more of a lamp then a clock. > > I suspect that's more a problem with the clock than the power frequency.  To > extr

Re: [neonixie-l] Synchronous Alternators and motors

2012-01-19 Thread Michail1
Tim, Thanks for that. Long read, but worth it. makes people realize a little more than a lot of work is involved. I do wonder how much of that is now automated. Michail In a message dated 1/19/2012 1:54:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, lai...@wcoil.com writes: Tim -- You received th

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-19 Thread John Rehwinkel
> I have heard the same thing about the US grid having the exact number > of cycles per day, due to legacy use of the frequency for clocks. I > have a Nixie clock based on that (uses mains frequency), and I can > tell you that it is not true at my outlets! The clock loses a few > minutes every da

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Remedial Transistor Help

2012-01-19 Thread John Rehwinkel
> I was thinking to use the level shifter on an H-bridge (4 transistor > array [2 NPN and 2 PNP] that reverses polarity) to power NE-2s. While > there are tricks to make one NE-2 light both electrodes, powering many > requires a lot of components. [...] > Many NE-2s (with both electrodes lit) can

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-19 Thread Thomas K.
I have heard the same thing about the US grid having the exact number of cycles per day, due to legacy use of the frequency for clocks. I have a Nixie clock based on that (uses mains frequency), and I can tell you that it is not true at my outlets! The clock loses a few minutes every day, which m

[neonixie-l] Re: Remedial Transistor Help

2012-01-19 Thread Thomas K.
Thanks guys! @David - In retrospect,common anode would have been nice, but they are what they are. They have such a neat color that I have never seen on an LED, I don't want to give them up! They make a really amazing glow on IN-18s. @John and dr pepper - that all makes more sense now, thanks.

Re: [neonixie-l] Synchronous Alternators and motors

2012-01-19 Thread Joe Croft
Thanks Tim, a bit off topic but very interesting!! I find stuff like this quite fascinating. I like how if you are a little off on your timing the motors would ring like bells as they jerk into synchronization. Definitely a good read for this morning. Thanks, Joe On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:55 A

Re: [neonixie-l] Remedial Transistor Help

2012-01-19 Thread John Rehwinkel
> When I connect the emitter to to +13v, base to ground or +5 through > any resistor and collector to the array, it lights up. Only when I > disconnected the resistor (open), does the array turn off. Right. You'd have to pull the base to +13V to turn it off. Something lower (more negative) tha

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-19 Thread dr pepper
My source for this isnt necessarily accurate, however they say the mains freq is accurate in the uk over a 24 hour period from 9 am till 9 am, they speed up and slow down the gensets during the 24 hours and at night time they control the speed to get the right amount of cycles for the last 24 hours

[neonixie-l] Synchronous Alternators and motors

2012-01-19 Thread laingt
Having worked at Lima Electric (Sadly No longer in Lima Ohio, Factory Closed) for over 5 years making synchronous alternators, and 3 years in the Engineering Test Lab I can pass on a little information on alternator speeds. On a sychronous alternator the rotor operates with DC excitation, either s