Re: [neonixie-l] RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread David Forbes
On 8/23/12 11:46 PM, Michel wrote: I am after a driver like the MAX232 that has 5V levels on one side; +/- 5 on the other side and only requires a +5V supply. The MAX232 however is a 16 pin device and I am looking for something smaller (8 pins). I only need one Rx and one Tx channel. I am also t

[neonixie-l] Re: Elektronika 7-06M

2012-08-24 Thread Terry Kennedy
On Aug 1, 11:51 am, Terry Kennedy wrote: > The Big Elektronika article has now been posted:http://www.tmk.com/blog/?p=419 One last Elektronika blog entry, to finish out the series - replica faceplates: http://www.tmk.com/blog/?p=525 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [neonixie-l] RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Dalibor Farný
Hello, look on rs485. I played with it a lot, ready to answer Your questions :-) it works for long distances and allows more devices on one line (bus). Try to describe your devices more.. Dalibor Farný http://dalibor.farny.cz sent from Samsung Galaxy Pad Dne 24.8.2012 7:46 "Michel" napsal(a):

Re: [neonixie-l] RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Nigel Walker
If you don't mind surface mount, a MAX3313e is quite small and will do the job. Nigel. - Original Message - From: "Michel" To: "neonixie-l" Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:46 AM Subject: [neonixie-l] RS232 line driver I am after a driver like the MAX232 that has 5V levels on one

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Michel
I just want to establish some serial communication between my computer and a PIC controller. Like David mentioned, RS232 is actually +/- 10V rather than +/- 5V. The levels directly from controller are obviously only 0V and 5V. Now I am thinking, for the Rx input this is not a problem because it wil

Re: [neonixie-l] RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread JohnK
I thought that the 'dead' band for 232 was -3V to +3V. I have used 5V with printers and modems of the 1970s/80s. Some 'cheap' RS232 drivers only used -5V and Gnd.eg the Microbee computer. Over short distances all sorts of liberties can be taken - it works; just don't call it 232 ! John

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Terry Kennedy
On Aug 24, 3:52 am, Michel wrote: > I just want to establish some serial communication between my computer > and a PIC controller. Like David mentioned, RS232 is actually +/- 10V > rather than +/- 5V. Actually, the standard specifies an allowable voltage range from +/- 3V to 15V, with receivers r

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread JohnK
RS232 spec is a range of voltage. There is a spec for the max supply volts and a clarification for the 'logic' level. eg -16 to -3 is one 'level' and +3 to +16 is the other. [I'll dig out my copy if needed.] Many receivers don't implement the dead area and some don't require the change of polari

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Michel
This one will actually do the trick and is small enough! Thanks Nigel! Michel On Aug 24, 5:50 pm, Nigel Walker wrote: > If you don't mind surface mount, a MAX3313e is quite small and will do the > job. > > Nigel. > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Michel" > To: "neonixie-l"

RE: [neonixie-l] 700V regulator tube (N.O.S.) at Electronic Goldmine

2012-08-24 Thread Tidak Ada
That is a so called 'corona stabilizer. The are suitable for hv supplies for CRT's and such the like' . They work only at very low load currents ( µA range). eric. _ From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Moulding Sent: vrijdag 24 aug

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Arduino-based FLW

2012-08-24 Thread fixitsan
> > Any other ideas for readily-available display solutions? > My Smartsocket design makes life easy when yoiu want to integrate B7971 or IV-17 vfd's into a design. The latest IV-17 version has a built in 4Play function (like four letter word but with added word ladder feature) If you sea

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Mark Moulding
I am after a driver like the MAX232 that has 5V levels on one side; > +/- 5 on the other side and only requires a +5V supply. The MAX232 > however is a 16 pin device and I am looking for something smaller (8 > pins). I only need one Rx and one Tx channel. > If half-duplex will work, the DS275

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread fixitsan
I've seen a lot of projects using pics and PC's, with no interface IC, i think just some resistors. The PIC has a good output current from the serial port and most importantly, the later pics have a configureation bit for the UART to send inverted data. There's a few suggestions here http://www

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread fixitsan
A few ideas here too http://www.scienceprog.com/alternatives-of-max232-in-low-budget-projects/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, se

Re: [neonixie-l] 700V regulator tube (N.O.S.) at Electronic Goldmine

2012-08-24 Thread Instrument Resources of America
Also known as "corotron" (tradename) tubes by Victoreen Mfg co. and used with Geiger Mueller tubes, in Geiger Counters, which I believe was their primary use.Ira On 8/24/2012 1:41 AM, Tidak Ada wrote: That is a so called 'corona stabilizer. The are suitable for hv supplies for CRT's and

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Adam Jacobs
That is a neat part, too bad that it is no longer in production. Looks like Components Direct sells them individually. http://www.componentsdirect.com/maxim-ds275-pdip-8-package-rs-232-transceiver.html I'm not sure that I would start a new design for manufacture with them, though. -Adam On

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Dalibor Farný
The best way is to use rs232 to uart converter ($3 or so on ebay), You just plug it into pc and directly connect to rxd and txd of your MCU. This is cheap and easy solution. The converter itself uses a max232 IC to change signals from rs232 to TTL. Dalibor Farný http://dalibor.farny.cz sent from

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Michel
That is interesting, I have to check if my PIC has this inverter bit, didn't know about that. I like that 2 transistor solution from the scienceprog website as well. I actually thought about doing something like that but I wasn't sure if you can always assume Tx is negative when idle. My eye fell

Re: [neonixie-l] RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread threeneurons
I'm with John, if it for personal purposes, and the run is short (<10ft/3m), you don't need to strictly adhere to the RS-232 spec. Just a pair of transistor inverters, and label the connectors, "Mickey-Comm", and you may just get away with 0-5V. Scope it, at your max intended baud rate, just t

[neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Michel
Yes, I'll give it a shot. My PIC indeed has invertable USART ports so I'm going to hook it up just like that without transistors but just a few series resistors. The cable is only short. If it doesn't work (which I doubt), I can always use that $3 ebay interface that Dalibor was talking about. I re