[neonixie-l] Re: Russian 100x100 array

2015-02-24 Thread Terry Kennedy
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 5:40:53 AM UTC-5, Alex wrote: > > Those have been on ebay for a good while from the same seller, I was > tempted a while ago but they are just too high a $ for my taste. The > displays panels themselves are, if i recall from reading somewhere, a > nightmare to dr

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing noise

2015-02-24 Thread 'Terry S' via neonixie-l
Greg -- regarding the resistor size and power dissipation, if there are 6 digits (7 in this case with the neons), can't you figure the resistor duty cycle is 1/6th, and therefore smaller wattage resistors can be used? The average dissipation is more like .043 watts, by my back-of-the-napkin math

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing noise

2015-02-24 Thread David Forbes
On 2/24/15 6:38 PM, Joe Croft wrote: Hi Yall, Okay, I scoped the board and I have almost 500us of total dead time between digits. This was measured on the digital outputs from the CPU. My code is written in a way that I turn off all of the segment and digit signals one at a time in a for loop so

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing noise

2015-02-24 Thread Joe Croft
Hi Yall, Okay, I scoped the board and I have almost 500us of total dead time between digits. This was measured on the digital outputs from the CPU. My code is written in a way that I turn off all of the segment and digit signals one at a time in a for loop so they are not all triggering at once. T

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing noise

2015-02-24 Thread gregebert
I used direct-drive on my first nixie project only because my gut-instinct was to keep it as simple as possible; I've stuck with that ever since. Too many postings about 'noisy nixies', choosing the correct cathode-current, bleeding, flickering, RFI, etc. I've even seen scary-looking blue arcs b

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing noise

2015-02-24 Thread David Forbes
Greg, I concur that these are fine things to do. I adjsuted my base-emitter resistor so that it would have about 0.3V across it if the base were disconencted form the circuit and the driving signal was on. Also, short wires from the driver to the tubes are helpful to reducing crosstalk. I ma

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing noise

2015-02-24 Thread gregebert
I think this is the problem: The base-emitter of the PNP is not shunted with a resistor (see note from Terry). The purpose of the base-emitter resistor is to provide a path for the leakage-current of the NPN predriver. With the schematic as shown, roughly half of the NPN's leakage current goes

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing noise

2015-02-24 Thread 'Terry S' via neonixie-l
Joe -- the anode driver I "borrowed" from the open-source clock looks slightly different than yours. It uses the same transistors, but the MPSA92 has 100K directly across the BE junction, and a 470K between the MPSA42 collector and the MPSA92 base. In other words, imagine moving your R22 to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing noise

2015-02-24 Thread Niek
Does the issue happen more to certain tubes/digits than to others? If so, it could have something to do with the layout of the traces: i'd be especially worried about long runs of high voltage lines parallel to the lines switching the transistors. E.g., in your PCB, the trace at the very bottom

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon glass making course...

2015-02-24 Thread Joe Croft
We need a class like this in Chicago!! I would be there in a flash!! :) -joe On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:14 AM, John Rehwinkel wrote: > I'd been looking for a top one-to-one cold-cathode display making course > > So, last week I went up t'north and learnt more in the hours I was there > that I h

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing noise

2015-02-24 Thread Joe Croft
Hi Yall, I've attached a picture of the display pcb layout and a pdf of the schematic for it. The cathode drivers are just the MPSA42 with a 100K ohm base transistor and the collector is tied directly to the cathode and the emitter is tied to ground. -joe On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:58 AM, gregeb

[neonixie-l] Re: Russian 100x100 array

2015-02-24 Thread Alex
Those have been on ebay for a good while from the same seller, I was tempted a while ago but they are just too high a $ for my taste. The displays panels themselves are, if i recall from reading somewhere, a nightmare to drive as they use glow transfer to scan in data, so essentially gas based

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..

2015-02-24 Thread Nick
On Tuesday, 24 February 2015 08:18:16 UTC, Paul Parry wrote: > > I can feel this wandering off Topic slight.. Again.. LOL > It doesn't matter in this case. Believe me :) > What a wonderful use for a 5C/3023. I did mention earlier that I had a bit > of a fondness for Vintage aircraft, I had a c

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..

2015-02-24 Thread Paul Parry
Hello Nick, I can feel this wandering off Topic slight.. Again.. LOL What a wonderful use for a 5C/3023. I did mention earlier that I had a bit of a fondness for Vintage aircraft, I had a complete Vampire T11 in my possession a few years ago XD515 (long story) not the smallest things to house