Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-24 Thread Cqr
How about this for a ZIF design: The contacts take the form of tubes with slits cut axially all round leaving rings uncut top and bottom to form a sort of tubular cage with no roof or floor. If the top ring is twisted while the bottom one is held the tube will collapse to a hyperboloid "cooling

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-24 Thread Terry S
I don't think ZIF sockets are necessary -- too much complexity -- but a LIF (low insertion force) socket would be cool. Imagine a socket consisting of a solid round cylinder core, with spring tensioned contacts surrounding the core, that would press against the pins when the tube is placed ove

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-23 Thread Dan Hollis
I would definitely pay for ZIF IN-18 sockets :) -Dan On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, John Rehwinkel wrote: I caused it because I was swapping the tubes too much. The repeated removal/insertions caused the tube to leak at the pins. I still want to rotate the tubes, but I need to come up with a surrogate

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-23 Thread AntiqueSounds
Zero Insertion Force (ZIF) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_insertion_force) sockets for nixies would be SWEET! On Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:47:36 AM UTC-5, Ron Schuster wrote: > > [I learned the hard way on some of my earliest clocks regarding current > limiting resistors. :S] > >> >

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-23 Thread Ron Schuster
[I learned the hard way on some of my earliest clocks regarding current limiting resistors. :S] > > Could you please elaborate on what you were referring to here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-23 Thread John Rehwinkel
> I caused it because I was swapping the tubes too much. The repeated > removal/insertions caused the tube to leak at the pins. > > I still want to rotate the tubes, but I need to come up with a surrogate > socket so I can swap the tubes without stressing the pins. A ZIF nixie socket! Now that

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-22 Thread Dan Hollis
Yep, this exactly happened to me. A tube suddenly started having problems lighting some digits. Then eventually it stopped working altogether. I caused it because I was swapping the tubes too much. The repeated removal/insertions caused the tube to leak at the pins. I still want to rotate the

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-22 Thread Terry S
Thanks Gene -- I'll keep an eye on it and let you know. Terry On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:56:13 AM UTC-6, Gene Segal wrote: > When you have a sudden performance issue, it's gas. Especially when large > sections of large-area cathodes go dim. Poisoning from sputtering affects > small se

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-22 Thread Gene Mark Segal
When you have a sudden performance issue, it's gas. Especially when large sections of large-area cathodes go dim. Poisoning from sputtering affects small sections and is observed over longer periods of time. I'll bet that tube will start going pink soon. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2014,

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-22 Thread Terry S
Gene, please explain how you know this is the case. Thanks Terry On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:30:40 AM UTC-6, Gene Segal wrote: > You're all wrong, it's leaking gas through the pins. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 22, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Adam Jacobs > > wrote: > > > > This is

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-22 Thread Gene Mark Segal
You're all wrong, it's leaking gas through the pins. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Adam Jacobs wrote: > > This is an issue that is most obvious on clocks with lots of functionality. > If there are different modes/menus that display numerals on a tube that are > not norm

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-22 Thread Adam Jacobs
This is an issue that is most obvious on clocks with lots of functionality. If there are different modes/menus that display numerals on a tube that are not normally lit as part of the clock, then you'll see this. Best advice is to take full advantage of automated cathode-poisoning prevention

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-22 Thread John Rehwinkel
> One of the IN-18s in my Nixichron has started to fail. I don't know if it's > cathode poisoning or some other failure mode. > > In the 10's hours position, several of the digits are not lighting > completely, they are dark toward the bottom of the tube, probably the bottom > 1/3 of the numer

[neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-22 Thread Terry S
One of the IN-18s in my Nixichron has started to fail. I don't know if it's cathode poisoning or some other failure mode. In the 10's hours position, several of the digits are not lighting completely, they are dark toward the bottom of the tube, probably the bottom 1/3 of the numeral. This h