Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-20 Thread NeonJohn
On 04/20/2017 05:28 AM, Aiden Koh wrote: > I'm sorry if I sound unsubstantial; I had once contacted stem base > suppliers in china, and they do say that they have the product line ISO > 9001 certified, but I have a hunch that they subcontract the orders to > another workshop. The US

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-20 Thread JohnK
: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes Hi John, you're right about how people shouldn't commit to buying a product that hasn't stood real life testing in the first place. I believe it promotes a culture where new manufacturers think it's fine to push out a product

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-20 Thread JohnK
xie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes Hi Nicholas:) I totally agree with you; considering that what we are planning to undertake is building a manufacturing process ground up, there would definitely be a huge number of pitfalls waiting for us. Most of them would almost certain

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-20 Thread Aiden Koh
Hi Nicholas:) I totally agree with you; considering that what we are planning to undertake is building a manufacturing process ground up, there would definitely be a huge number of pitfalls waiting for us. Most of them would almost certainly be different from what Dalibor had encountered too. The

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-20 Thread Aiden Koh
om> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 19, 2017 7:22 PM > *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes > > I'm a product engineer taking on a new project. > With current manufacturing methods, I'm able to manufacture In-18/Z568M > inspired nixie tubes

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-20 Thread Aiden Koh
Hi! I believe that the design shouldn't be entirely based on the existing tubes; if we can incorporate favorited characteristics based on general trends, why not? It's true, the thinner the mesh, the better. I do agree that wired anodes like on zm1177 improve visibility. Thanks for the

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk
W dniu środa, 19 kwietnia 2017 19:19:51 UTC+2 użytkownik mikeselectricstuff napisał: > > > Kickstarter. > I don't think kickstarter is a good idea to start a business. Of course, if something goes wrong and the money gets essentially wasted, no one can blame you if you spent it on research,

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread Mike Harrison
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 09:59:59 -0700, you wrote: >You never stated what you think the minimum quantity is (at $25 per >unit) to start making money. > > >On 4/19/2017 2:52 AM, Aiden Koh wrote: >> I'm a product engineer taking on a new project. >> With current manufacturing methods, I'm able to

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread David Forbes
You never stated what you think the minimum quantity is (at $25 per unit) to start making money. On 4/19/2017 2:52 AM, Aiden Koh wrote: I'm a product engineer taking on a new project. With current manufacturing methods, I'm able to manufacture In-18/Z568M inspired nixie tubes, at a fraction

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread gregebert
I'd suggest you start with an IN-18 first, preferrably one that is electrically and mechanically interchangeable. If you can get the pin-to-glass seals to pass a helium leak-test, I'd say you have cleared a major production hurdle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread JohnK
actory] - Original Message - From: Aiden Koh To: neonixie-l Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 7:22 PM Subject: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes I'm a product engineer taking on a new project. With current manufacturing methods, I'm able to manuf

Re: [neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread Nicholas Stock
If you can indeed deliver on that promise you will *have no trouble* selling a large quantity of tubes. However, given some of the pitfalls of new tube manufacturing that Dalibor has encountered (and mostly solved) then I wouldn't take this project on lightly. What is your minimum threshold

[neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread alb.001 alb.001
At about $25  I would buy at least 12 to start.  A serial factory built ISO qualified product would get lots of interest just to compete with the Russian suppliers who obviously have vast stores of ( now overpriced) older by the day nixies. My 2 cents worth Phil B --

[neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread Aiden Koh
I'm a product engineer taking on a new project. With current manufacturing methods, I'm able to manufacture In-18/Z568M inspired nixie tubes, at a fraction of their market costs (sub 25 USD/pc). I don't compromise on quality. hence, it will be built with parts mostly sourced from the US, and

[neonixie-l] Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-19 Thread Aiden Koh
I'm a product engineer taking on a new project. With current manufacturing methods, I'm able to manufacture In-18/Z568M inspired nixie tubes, at a fraction of their market costs (sub 25 USD/pc). I don't compromise on quality. Hence, it will be built with parts mostly sourced from the US, and