[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-16 Thread MichaelB
Ooops, screwed up the linkhttp://www.badnixie.com/Web_Files/IMG_3244.JPG On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, MichaelB wrote: > Here's a pic of the infamous blue dot taken with Powershot SD800: > badnixie.com/Web_Files/IMG_3244.JPG > > On Jul 14, 8:30 pm, "Dieter Waechter" wrote: > > > > > > Lots of speculat

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-16 Thread MichaelB
Here's a pic of the infamous blue dot taken with Powershot SD800: badnixie.com/Web_Files/IMG_3244.JPG On Jul 14, 8:30 pm, "Dieter Waechter" wrote: > > Lots of speculation on the blue dot. > > I don't think anyone has come up with an absolutely answer.  Just guessing, > etc. > > Yes of course. The

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-15 Thread Jeff Thomas
On Jul 15, 8:51 am, Dieter Waechter wrote: > It can not appear there, since Jeff does not apply any Ucc. > The cathodes are switched from 170V to zero. > He uses real high voltage supertex drivers, no clamped drivers (like > 74141 are, for example). > I hope you have not changed the circuitry, Jef

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-15 Thread Dieter Waechter
If it is the circuit that causes the problem, then why do some tubes exhibit this and other don't. As I said: because of the amount of mercury. Some tubes have more, some have less mercury. That's all. Some have such less, that also if you go down to 40 Volts Ucc the spot does not appear. Jür

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-15 Thread Michail1
Thanks. If it is the circuit that causes the problem, then why do some tubes exhibit this and other don't. I have tubes that display the issue on any clock I own - admittedly, I don't believe I have any from you. Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 In a message dated 7/15/2011 9:05:16 A.M.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-15 Thread Dieter Waechter
But Michail, If you want the blue spot on every IN-18 just clamp to a lower Ucc If it appears or not depends to the mercury amount in the tube and the Ucc voltage level. That's all. You also can fade in and out the blue spot if you like... no problem. When I have time I take a short video wi

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-15 Thread Dieter Waechter
That's good to know. I'll try the offending tube in my Nixiechron to see if the blue spot dares to show it's ugly face! It can not appear there, since Jeff does not apply any Ucc. The cathodes are switched from 170V to zero. He uses real high voltage supertex drivers, no clamped drivers (like

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-15 Thread Michail1
Ugly? Dude, it's beautiful. :) PS. If it was a circuit problem, then why do about 20% of the tubes have this issue/benefit? Anyone has a blue dot tube that they don't want, please send to me. I would be happy to care for it. :) Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 In a message dated 7

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-15 Thread Nicholas Stock
That's good to know. I'll try the offending tube in my Nixiechron to see if the blue spot dares to show it's ugly face! On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Dieter Waechter wrote: > > Thanks for the possible explanation Dieter. Does this fit with the fact >> that the same tube shows the same defect

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-15 Thread Dieter Waechter
Thanks for the possible explanation Dieter. Does this fit with the fact that the same tube shows the same defect on just one digit in multiple different IN-18 clocks? First: Note that it is NOT a defect. It is a wrong driver circuit. The mistake is made by the circuit designer, not by the tub

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-15 Thread Nicholas Stock
Thanks for the possible explanation Dieter. Does this fit with the fact that the same tube shows the same defect on just one digit in multiple different IN-18 clocks? Nick On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Dieter Waechter wrote: > Lots of speculation on the blue dot. >> > I don't think anyone ha

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-14 Thread Dieter Waechter
Lots of speculation on the blue dot. I don't think anyone has come up with an absolutely answer. Just guessing, etc. Yes of course. There is only one right answer. http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/data/in18.htm The blus spot is the mercury glowing if Ucc is too low. All you need to do is

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-14 Thread Michail1
Lots of speculation on the blue dot. I don't think anyone has come up with an absolutely answer. Just guessing, etc. I have sold hundreds of the IN-18. I used to consider the blue dot as something I wanted to get rid of in my stock; however, I have changed my mind. Now, I have about 5

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-14 Thread Nicholas Stock
Just what exactly causes that phenomenon? I've had a few IN-18's over the years that have shown various blue dotsalways wondered what caused themideas? Nick On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Tristan wrote: > Having spent some time photographing the IN-18 "blue dot" phenomenon I > can say

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-14 Thread Tristan
Having spent some time photographing the IN-18 "blue dot" phenomenon I can say that it is a matter of balancing the ambient (or flash) light with the emitted light. If getting up close it is a good idea to manually set a small aperture (high F number) and using a longer exposure so the depth of fie

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-14 Thread Nick
On Jul 14, 5:44 pm, Nick wrote: > I bought a cheapy light tent on eBay - a 40cm PhotoSEL as > inhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/170626510059 > > Came with 2 "daylight" floods. Does a nice job. Here's a photo of one of John S's clocks: http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Nixies/P1020086.JPG -- You received this

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube photographing

2011-07-14 Thread Nick
I bought a cheapy light tent on eBay - a 40cm PhotoSEL as in http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/170626510059 Came with 2 "daylight" floods. Does a nice job. Nick On Jul 14, 5:23 pm, jb-electronics wrote: > Hi folks, > > given the thoughts in a different threads, I was curious what techniques > you use to ph