Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Andy Bierman writes: > Hi, > > I entered a new 6087bis issue: > https://github.com/netmod-wg/rfc6087bis/issues/27 > > I agree the conventions need to be spelled out. > IMO there are many problematic examples in 6020bis. > The convention "..." is used and some newbie could think > it was some vali

Re: [netmod] Yang mount / ysdl example use case

2016-02-03 Thread Lou Berger
Alex, On February 3, 2016 8:35:54 PM "Alexander Clemm (alex)" wrote: Hi Kent, I do think that we should have a slot for that draft as well. The structural mount case is a variation of the alias mount case; Insofar as much that Structural mount and YSDL both have a model that is used to

Re: [netmod] Yang mount / ysdl example use case

2016-02-03 Thread Alexander Clemm (alex)
Hi Kent, I do think that we should have a slot for that draft as well. The structural mount case is a variation of the alias mount case; it is certainly possible to have a continuum of solutions that allows to incorporate structural mount as well as alias mount and peer mount (the latter possi

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, I entered a new 6087bis issue: https://github.com/netmod-wg/rfc6087bis/issues/27 I agree the conventions need to be spelled out. IMO there are many problematic examples in 6020bis. The convention "..." is used and some newbie could think it was some valid YANG syntax. There are also example

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Mahesh Jethanandani
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder > wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 11:19:33AM +0100, Benoit Claise wrote: > >> module foomod { >> >> namespace"http://example.com/foomod";; >> >> prefix "foo"; >> >> container top { >> leaf foo { >> type uint8;

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 03 Feb 2016, at 17:33, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> >>> On 03 Feb 2016, at 14:37, Benoit Claise wrote: >>> >>> Hi Lada, >> I agree with Juergen that 6087bis should distinguish between complete >> example modules and short module snippets that are u

Re: [netmod] Yang mount / ysdl example use case

2016-02-03 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, Kent Watsen wrote: > > I was led to believe that the current set of drafts subsume > draft-clemm-netmod-mount. The mechanism in draft-clemm-netmod-mount primarily mounts remote datastores into a datastore. Structural mount focuses on combining *schemas*. This approach can support differen

Re: [netmod] Yang mount / ysdl example use case

2016-02-03 Thread Lou Berger
I don't see how draft Clemm addresses our draft's use case. That said, if alex thinks it does - let's hear about it. Alex, Can you look at the mail I sent the other day about our planned usage and see what you think - and let us know what you find? Thanks, Lou On February 3, 2016 2:27:44

Re: [netmod] Yang mount / ysdl example use case

2016-02-03 Thread Kent Watsen
I was led to believe that the current set of drafts subsume draft-clemm-netmod-mount. If that’s not true, then absolutely there should be a slot for that draft to be discussed as well. Please advise. Kent On 2/3/16, 9:07 AM, "Robert Wilton" wrote: >Hi Kent, > >There is also another Ya

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model status

2016-02-03 Thread Nadeau Thomas
I don’t think we need to block on that. The 1.1 drafts are nearly done and ready to go according to Juergen, so we shouldn’t wait. If something happens to change that causes something to break compilation-wise, that is easily fixed in the edit stages. Also, since your document refere

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model status

2016-02-03 Thread Dean Bogdanovic
Tom, One mailing list suggestion was using yang 1.1 construct. If we do it without that suggestion, then the model doesn’t require update, but it is better with this suggestion Dean > On Feb 3, 2016, at 7:52 PM, Nadeau Thomas wrote: > > > Will your model require any updates once 1.1 i

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model status

2016-02-03 Thread Dean Bogdanovic
Tom, We will publish ACL model requiring YANG 1.1 as per discussion on the list Dean > On Feb 3, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Lisa (Yi) Huang wrote: > > Tom, > > We discussed the review comments in the working group in offline meeting. > Will publish a new draft to address comments. Thanks, > > Lisa >

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model status

2016-02-03 Thread Nadeau Thomas
Will your model require any updates once 1.1 is ratified? We don’t want to predicate having a bunch of models move forward on the 1.1 work moving forward. —Tom > On Feb 3, 2016:11:45 AM, at 11:45 AM, Dean Bogdanovic > wrote: > > Tom, > > We will publish ACL model requiri

Re: [netmod] Where can I insert new YANG substatements?

2016-02-03 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Andy Bierman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > William Ivory wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > My colleagues and I are looking for clarification of the last point in > > > Section 10 of YANG 1.0: > > > > > > ' In statements that have any data defini

Re: [netmod] Where can I insert new YANG substatements?

2016-02-03 Thread Andy Bierman
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > > William Ivory wrote: > > Hi, > > > > My colleagues and I are looking for clarification of the last point in > > Section 10 of YANG 1.0: > > > > ' In statements that have any data definition statements as > >substatements, th

Re: [netmod] Where can I insert new YANG substatements?

2016-02-03 Thread William Ivory
Hi Martin, Thanks - that looks good to me. William -Original Message- From: Martin Bjorklund [mailto:m...@tail-f.com] Sent: 03 February 2016 17:06 To: William Ivory Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Where can I insert new YANG substatements? Hi, William Ivory wrote: > Hi, >

Re: [netmod] Where can I insert new YANG substatements?

2016-02-03 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, William Ivory wrote: > Hi, > > My colleagues and I are looking for clarification of the last point in > Section 10 of YANG 1.0: > > ' In statements that have any data definition statements as >substatements, those data definition substatements MUST NOT be >reordered.' > > We unde

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > On 03 Feb 2016, at 14:37, Benoit Claise wrote: > > > > Hi Lada, > >> > I agree with Juergen that 6087bis should distinguish between complete > example modules and short module snippets that are used for explaining a > certain YANG language or encodin

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model status

2016-02-03 Thread Lisa (Yi) Huang
Tom, We discussed the review comments in the working group in offline meeting. Will publish a new draft to address comments. Thanks, Lisa On 2/1/16, 8:01 AM, "netmod on behalf of Nadeau Thomas" wrote: > > ACL Doc Authors: > > What is your status and plan to address the numerous tec

Re: [netmod] Yang mount / ysdl example use case

2016-02-03 Thread Kent Watsen
Yes, the meeting times are in timezone EST. Doodle should display the timezone and let you set your own. Kent > On Feb 3, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > > Kent - I’m assuming the poll is EST given that is where you are located. > Thanks, > Acee > >> On 2/3/16, 8:50 AM, "Ke

Re: [netmod] Yang mount / ysdl example use case

2016-02-03 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Kent - I’m assuming the poll is EST given that is where you are located. Thanks, Acee On 2/3/16, 8:50 AM, "Kent Watsen" wrote: > >No problem, I just created another poll for the following week: > > http://doodle.com/poll/byugp4umy2m4fwdz > >The first poll is now deleted. For the couple of

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 03 Feb 2016, at 15:35, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Benoit Claise wrote: >> Hi Lada, >> >> Thanks for the quick reply. >>> Hi Benoit, >>> >>> thank you for the review, please see my responses inline. >>> >>> Benoit Claise writes: > > [...] > o identity, There is n

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Benoit Claise wrote: > Hi Lada, > > Thanks for the quick reply. > > Hi Benoit, > > > > thank you for the review, please see my responses inline. > > > > Benoit Claise writes: [...] > >> o identity, > >> > >> There is no identity definition in the RFC 6020 terminology section. > > Maybe i

Re: [netmod] Yang mount / ysdl example use case

2016-02-03 Thread Robert Wilton
Hi Kent, There is also another Yang Mount related draft: draft-clemm-netmod-mount-03 Now, this draft doesn't directly address the RTG DT Arch team use-case, and seems to cover two more complex problem scenarios (remote mount and alias mount), but these do appear to be a valid mount use cases (

Re: [netmod] Yang mount / ysdl example use case

2016-02-03 Thread Kent Watsen
No problem, I just created another poll for the following week: http://doodle.com/poll/byugp4umy2m4fwdz The first poll is now deleted. For the couple of folks that put values there, please fill in your values again on this new poll. Kent On 2/3/16, 6:59 AM, "Acee Lindem (acee)"

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 03 Feb 2016, at 14:37, Benoit Claise wrote: > > Hi Lada, >> I agree with Juergen that 6087bis should distinguish between complete example modules and short module snippets that are used for explaining a certain YANG language or encoding issue. If you look at this particular

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Benoit Claise
Hi Lada, I agree with Juergen that 6087bis should distinguish between complete example modules and short module snippets that are used for explaining a certain YANG language or encoding issue. If you look at this particular example, then changing the JSON document on p. 6 to { "examp

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 03 Feb 2016, at 13:58, Benoit Claise wrote: > > Hi Lada, > > Thanks for the quick reply. >> Hi Benoit, >> >> thank you for the review, please see my responses inline. >> >> Benoit Claise writes: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I understood from the chairs that draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json is

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Benoit Claise
Hi Lada, Thanks for the quick reply. Hi Benoit, thank you for the review, please see my responses inline. Benoit Claise writes: Dear all, I understood from the chairs that draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json is now ready and that the write-up will be completed end of this week. In order to speed u

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Hi Benoit, thank you for the review, please see my responses inline. Benoit Claise writes: > Dear all, > > I understood from the chairs that draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json is now > ready and that the write-up will be completed end of this week. > In order to speed up the publication, here is my A

Re: [netmod] Yang mount / ysdl example use case

2016-02-03 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
On 2/3/16, 1:18 AM, "Ladislav Lhotka" wrote: > >> On 03 Feb 2016, at 03:24, Kent Watsen wrote: >> >> >> [Chair hat on] >> >> Given the number of competing/complementing drafts involved, and the >>general lack of discussion on any of them, a virtual interim meeting >>might be an expedient wa

Re: [netmod] Where can I insert new YANG substatements?

2016-02-03 Thread Andy Bierman
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 1:55 AM, William Ivory wrote: > Hi Lada, > > I was hoping for more than 'I think' and ' Hmm. The rule is not clear. > In fact, one can argue that it is wrong:'. Is anyone willing / able to > give me a definitive answer? > > Thanks, > > William > > -Original Message---

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 11:19:33AM +0100, Benoit Claise wrote: > module foomod { > > namespace"http://example.com/foomod";; > > prefix "foo"; > > container top { >leaf foo { > type uint8; >} > } >} > > Use "example-" in the module name, as men

Re: [netmod] Yang mount / ysdl example use case

2016-02-03 Thread Kent Watsen
Okay, I set up a doodle poll to help us pick a time: http://doodle.com/poll/dv68psxn33yt4ehf Would the draft authors and other key participants please fill in their availability? Thanks, Kent On 2/3/16, 1:18 AM, "Ladislav Lhotka" wrote: > >> On 03 Feb 2016, at 03:24, Kent Watsen

[netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json-07

2016-02-03 Thread Benoit Claise
Dear all, I understood from the chairs that draft-ietf-netmod-yang-json is now ready and that the write-up will be completed end of this week. In order to speed up the publication, here is my AD review. - Editorial: This document defines encoding rules for representing configuration, st

Re: [netmod] Where can I insert new YANG substatements?

2016-02-03 Thread William Ivory
Hi Lada, I was hoping for more than 'I think' and ' Hmm. The rule is not clear. In fact, one can argue that it is wrong:'. Is anyone willing / able to give me a definitive answer? Thanks, William -Original Message- From: Ladislav Lhotka [mailto:lho...@nic.cz] Sent: 03 February 201

Re: [netmod] Where can I insert new YANG substatements?

2016-02-03 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Hi William, > On 03 Feb 2016, at 09:58, William Ivory wrote: > > Hi, > > My colleagues and I are looking for clarification of the last point in > Section 10 of YANG 1.0: > > ‘ In statements that have any data definition statements as >substatements, those data definition substatement

[netmod] Where can I insert new YANG substatements?

2016-02-03 Thread William Ivory
Hi, My colleagues and I are looking for clarification of the last point in Section 10 of YANG 1.0: ' In statements that have any data definition statements as substatements, those data definition substatements MUST NOT be reordered.' We understand that existing statements must not be re

Re: [netmod] chars that require quoting

2016-02-03 Thread Jernej Tuljak
Ladislav Lhotka je 3.2.2016 ob 6:59 napisal: On 03 Feb 2016, at 05:02, Andy Bierman wrote: On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On 02 Feb 2016, at 18:25, Andy Bierman wrote: On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Jernej Tuljak wrote: Ladislav Lhotka je 2.2.2016 ob 12:25 nap