Re: [netmod] What to reference when importing an IANA module?

2023-01-13 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - On 2023-01-13 10:20 AM, Kent Watsen wrote: On Jan 13, 2023, at 11:25 AM, Benoit Claise wrote: Hi Tom, Yes I do think that people outside the IETF may be ignorant of the nuances of the way the IETF works and may not realise that a URL to the IANA website must be used in preference

Re: [netmod] What to reference when importing an IANA module?

2023-01-13 Thread Italo Busi
I am having the feeling that the discussion is converging about the recommendation to reference the URL instead of the RFC where the initial version of the YANG module has been published Is my understanding correct? I agree it would be good to document such a guideline in an update to RFC 8407

Re: [netmod] Use of unrestricted string in YANG (was RE: naming scope of a grouping which uses a grouping)

2023-01-13 Thread Andy Bierman
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 10:10 AM Italo Busi wrote: > Thanks Andy > > > > I agree with your statement “yang-identifier SHOULD be used instead of > string for key leafs” and that “yang-identifier is always the most > appropriate type to use for a key” > > > > The issue is that there are many YANG

Re: [netmod] What to reference when importing an IANA module?

2023-01-13 Thread Kent Watsen
> On Jan 13, 2023, at 11:25 AM, Benoit Claise > wrote: > > Hi Tom, >> Yes I do think that people outside the IETF may be ignorant of the nuances >> of the way the IETF works and may not realise that a URL to the IANA >> website must be used in preference to an RFC. There is more to YANG

Re: [netmod] Use of unrestricted string in YANG (was RE: naming scope of a grouping which uses a grouping)

2023-01-13 Thread Italo Busi
Thanks Andy I agree with your statement “yang-identifier SHOULD be used instead of string for key leafs” and that “yang-identifier is always the most appropriate type to use for a key” The issue is that there are many YANG models either published as RFC or in progress which are using string

Re: [netmod] 答复: CORE-SID and SX:structure and draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-01.txt

2023-01-13 Thread Andy Bierman
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 9:31 AM Michael Richardson wrote: > > Andy Bierman wrote: > >> Fengchong (frank) wrote: > >> > Hi Michael, > >> > You can use augment-structure to extend a yang structure. > >> > >> You can't use augment-structure to extend in-place an existing yang

Re: [netmod] 答复: CORE-SID and SX:structure and draft-ietf-anima-rfc8366bis-01.txt

2023-01-13 Thread Michael Richardson
Andy Bierman wrote: >> Fengchong (frank) wrote: >> > Hi Michael, >> > You can use augment-structure to extend a yang structure. >> >> You can't use augment-structure to extend in-place an existing yang >> structure >> Augment-structure produces a new structure with a

Re: [netmod] Use of unrestricted string in YANG (was RE: naming scope of a grouping which uses a grouping)

2023-01-13 Thread Andy Bierman
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 8:19 AM Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: netmod On Behalf Of Jürgen Schönwälder > > Sent: 12 January 2023 15:46 > > To: Italo Busi > > Cc: netmod@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [netmod] Use of unrestricted string in YANG (was RE:

Re: [netmod] Use of unrestricted string in YANG (was RE: naming scope of a grouping which uses a grouping)

2023-01-13 Thread tom petch
From: netmod on behalf of Italo Busi Sent: 13 January 2023 11:32 Andy, Carsten, Jürgen, Tom, Thanks for your feedbacks If I understand correctly: * Andy, Carsten and Jürgen agree that using unrestricted string for non-key attributes makes sense * Andy has a concern only about

Re: [netmod] What to reference when importing an IANA module?

2023-01-13 Thread Benoit Claise
Hi Tom, Yes I do think that people outside the IETF may be ignorant of the nuances of the way the IETF works and may not realise that a URL to the IANA website must be used in preference to an RFC. There is more to YANG modules than extracting the code from somewhere in order to incorporate

Re: [netmod] WGLC on draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-28

2023-01-13 Thread Reshad Rahman
Hi, I have reviewed this document and believe it's in good shape. I'd like to see the changes suggested by Joe/Mahesh ("stop" action and use of identity for actions). Regards,Reshad. On Friday, January 13, 2023, 08:05:29 AM EST, Kent Watsen wrote: Dear NETMOD WG, This message begins

Re: [netmod] Use of unrestricted string in YANG (was RE: naming scope of a grouping which uses a grouping)

2023-01-13 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
> -Original Message- > From: netmod On Behalf Of Jürgen Schönwälder > Sent: 12 January 2023 15:46 > To: Italo Busi > Cc: netmod@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [netmod] Use of unrestricted string in YANG (was RE: naming scope > of a grouping which uses a grouping) > > My take is that

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-28.txt

2023-01-13 Thread Reshad Rahman
Hi Joe, Kent, I think adding a "stop" action would indeed help and yes identities is a good idea. Regards,Reshad. On Friday, January 13, 2023, 09:22:41 AM EST, Joe Clarke (jclarke) wrote: One thing I was kicking around with Mahesh is a compromise on Reshad’s problem by adding a

Re: [netmod] Use of unrestricted string in YANG (was RE: naming scope of a grouping which uses a grouping)

2023-01-13 Thread Andy Bierman
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 3:32 AM Italo Busi wrote: > Andy, Carsten, Jürgen, Tom, > > > > Thanks for your feedbacks > > > > If I understand correctly: > >- Andy, Carsten and Jürgen agree that using unrestricted string for >non-key attributes makes sense >- Andy has a concern only about

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-28.txt

2023-01-13 Thread Joe Clarke (jclarke)
One thing I was kicking around with Mahesh is a compromise on Reshad’s problem by adding a “stop” action. It won’t address the organization of the destination, but it would allow for one to express this semantic. Moreover, the actions could be turned into identities (instead of an enum) to

[netmod] TR: New Version Notification for draft-boucadair-netmod-iana-registries-06.txt

2023-01-13 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Chairs, all, The new version include some text to address the issue raised by Italo recently. I think that it is time to consider adoption of this draft. Thanks. Cheers, Med -Message d'origine- De : internet-dra...@ietf.org Envoyé : vendredi 13 janvier 2023 09:03 À :

[netmod] WGLC on draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-28

2023-01-13 Thread Kent Watsen
Dear NETMOD WG, This message begins a two-week WGLC for draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-28 ending on Friday, January 27th. Here is a direct link to the HTML version of the draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-28 Positive comments, e.g., "I've

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-28.txt

2023-01-13 Thread Kent Watsen
Hi Reshad, Thank you for explaining. I share your assessment that it the model may not be implementable in rsyslog. I also cannot fault the model nor advocate a change. It is unknown to me how pervasive the issue may be, but the model did go thru a WGLC before, which would've been the time

Re: [netmod] What to reference when importing an IANA module?

2023-01-13 Thread tom petch
From: Benoit Claise Sent: 12 January 2023 17:03 Hi Tom, On 1/12/2023 5:51 PM, tom petch wrote: > From: netmod on behalf of Benoit Claise > > Sent: 12 January 2023 14:45 > > Dear all, > > >From the initial problem statement: > During a WG adoption poll we have received a comment that the URL

Re: [netmod] Use of unrestricted string in YANG (was RE: naming scope of a grouping which uses a grouping)

2023-01-13 Thread Italo Busi
Andy, Carsten, Jürgen, Tom, Thanks for your feedbacks If I understand correctly: * Andy, Carsten and Jürgen agree that using unrestricted string for non-key attributes makes sense * Andy has a concern only about using unrestricted string for key attributes and his proposal is to use