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From: netmod On Behalf Of tom petch
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 4:50 AM
To: 'Juergen Schoenwaelder' ; 'Andy
Bierman' ; adr...@olddog.co.uk
Cc: 'NetMod WG Chairs' ; 'NETMOD Group'
Subject: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
From: netmod on beha
oint about complexity of implementation
was a factor.
Tom Petch
Best,
Adrian
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From: netmod On Behalf Of Juergen Schoenwaelder
Sent: 23 December 2020 18:09
To: Andy Bierman
Cc: NetMod WG Chairs ; NETMOD Group
Subject: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-eve
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On 7/12/2020, 17:27, Lou Berger wrote:
To: NETMOD Group
Cc: NetMod WG Chairs
Subject: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
This email begins a 2-week ado
Hi -
On 2020-12-29 12:31 PM, Andy Bierman wrote:
...
I am not that interested in lessons from the past because it just sounds
like an old-timer's negativity. But I am not interested in boiling the
ocean either.
There is an invalid assumption with ECA that the current client
development
Thanks Juergen and Randy,
There's plenty here to chew on. Happy New Year's Eve reading
Cheers,
Adrian
-Original Message-
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder
Sent: 29 December 2020 18:56
To: Adrian Farrel
Cc: 'NETMOD Group'
Subject: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event
rian
>
Andy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: netmod On Behalf Of Juergen Schoenwaelder
> Sent: 23 December 2020 18:09
> To: Andy Bierman
> Cc: NetMod WG Chairs ; NETMOD Group
>
> Subject: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
>
> On
8:09
> To: Andy Bierman
> Cc: NetMod WG Chairs ; NETMOD Group
>
> Subject: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:05:44AM -0800, Andy Bierman wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 3:14 AM tom petch wrote:
> >
Hi -
On 2020-12-29 8:26 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
...
Since "intent-based networking" is a big thing once again (see recent
reports of acquisitions in this sector) the excitement about ECA may be
forgiven, but it would help to ground the discussions if those who can
remember previous efforts
r previous efforts would share their experiences or at least some
pointers.
Best,
Adrian
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From: netmod On Behalf Of Juergen Schoenwaelder
Sent: 23 December 2020 18:09
To: Andy Bierman
Cc: NetMod WG Chairs ; NETMOD Group
Subject: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-
IMO this is an area where running code really matters.
[Qin]: Fully agree, I believe many vendors and proponents have implemented this
functionality (I don’t want to name them) and could be a good basis for this
model implementation.
Follow similar fashion, we can ask implementation report
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 12:24 AM Juergen Schoenwaelder <
j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:08:52PM +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> >
> > ECA work has a long 20+ year tradition in the IETF and several
> > specifications have been published over the
Group
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On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:08:52PM +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
>
> ECA work has a long 20+ year tradition in the IETF and several
> specifications have been published over the years by various working
> gr
From: netmod on behalf of Andy Bierman
Sent: 24 December 2020 09:15
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 12:24 AM Juergen Schoenwaelder
mailto:j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de>>
wrote:
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:08:52PM +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
>
> ECA work has a long 20+ year tradition in
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 12:24 AM Juergen Schoenwaelder <
j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:08:52PM +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> >
> > ECA work has a long 20+ year tradition in the IETF and several
> > specifications have been published over the
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:08:52PM +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
>
> ECA work has a long 20+ year tradition in the IETF and several
> specifications have been published over the years by various working
> groups. As far as I can tell, none of them got traction in terms of
> signifiant
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发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Juergen Schoenwaelder
发送时间: 2020年12月24日 2:09
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主题: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:05:44AM -0800, Andy Bierman wrote
发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Andy Bierman
发送时间: 2020年12月23日 23:06
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主题: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 3:14 AM tom petch
mailto:ie...@btconnect.com>> wrote:
From:
Hi,
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发件人: tom petch [mailto:ie...@btconnect.com]
发送时间: 2020年12月24日 0:49
收件人: Qin Wu ; Dhruv Dhody ; Lou
Berger
抄送: NetMod WG Chairs ; NETMOD Group
主题: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
From: Qin Wu
Sent: 23 December 2020 14:30
Hi, Tom:
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On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 07:05:44AM -0800, Andy Bierman wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 3:14 AM tom petch wrote:
>
> > From: netmod on behalf of Dhruv Dhody <
> > dhruv.i...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: 21 December 2020 17:12
> >
> > Hi Lou, WG,
> >
> > I find the motivation in the Introduction to be
From: Qin Wu
Sent: 23 December 2020 14:30
Hi, Tom:
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发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 tom petch
发送时间: 2020年12月23日 19:14
收件人: Dhruv Dhody ; Lou Berger
抄送: NetMod WG Chairs ; NETMOD Group
主题: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
From: netmod
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 3:14 AM tom petch wrote:
> From: netmod on behalf of Dhruv Dhody <
> dhruv.i...@gmail.com>
> Sent: 21 December 2020 17:12
>
> Hi Lou, WG,
>
> I find the motivation in the Introduction to be focused on ECA at the
> network devices (with all the talk about issues with
Hi, Tom:
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发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 tom petch
发送时间: 2020年12月23日 19:14
收件人: Dhruv Dhody ; Lou Berger
抄送: NetMod WG Chairs ; NETMOD Group
主题: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
From: netmod on behalf of Dhruv Dhody
Sent: 21
From: netmod on behalf of Dhruv Dhody
Sent: 21 December 2020 17:12
Hi Lou, WG,
I find the motivation in the Introduction to be focused on ECA at the
network devices (with all the talk about issues with Centralized
network management).
I see the value of ECA on the controller as well, say a
Thanks Lou, I have pinged the last author to confirm IPR call explicitly on the
list.
-Qin
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发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Lou Berger
发送时间: 2020年12月23日 8:28
收件人: NETMOD Group
抄送: NetMod WG Chairs
主题: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
Hi,
The response to this poll is sufficient for it to be adopted. We just
need the 3 missing IPR statements and, assuming no surprises, the
document can be republished as a WG document.
Authors,
Please prepare a version of the draft with only the file name changed to
-邮件原件-
发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Dhruv Dhody
发送时间: 2020年12月22日 1:12
收件人: Lou Berger
抄送: NetMod WG Chairs ; NETMOD Group
主题: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
Hi Lou, WG,
I find the motivation in the Introduction to be focused on ECA
Thanks Adrian for valuable comments, see reply inline below.
-邮件原件-
发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Adrian Farrel
发送时间: 2020年12月8日 18:51
收件人: 'Lou Berger' ; 'NETMOD Group'
抄送: 'NetMod WG Chairs'
主题: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
Hi,
I
Hi Lou, WG,
I find the motivation in the Introduction to be focused on ECA at the
network devices (with all the talk about issues with Centralized
network management).
I see the value of ECA on the controller as well, say a customer
network controller or an orchestrator can set the ECA on a
Hi chairs,
hi group,
as an author, I support the adoption of this document. Robust event
generation is an important foundation for corresponding automation
mechanics.
Viele Grüße,
Henk
On 12/7/2020 5:27 PM, Lou Berger wrote:
This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for:
Hi all,
I support the adoption.
Lingli
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发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Lou Berger
发送时间: 2020年12月8日 6:28
收件人: NETMOD Group
抄送: NetMod WG Chairs
主题: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for:
https
I support this adoption.
thanks
Liu
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Support the adoption as a co-auther.
Thanks,
- Xufeng
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:29 PM Lou Berger wrote:
> This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for:
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
>
> Please voice your support or technical objections on list before the end
> of
I support (as a co-anther/
Cheers,Igor
hould have mentioned that this is the 2nd adoption call on this document. for
full context on discussion on this draft, see
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/netmod/?q=draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang
On 12/7/2020 5:27 PM, Lou Berger wrote:
> This
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---Original---
From: Lou Berger
Date: 2020-12-08 06:27
To: NETMOD Group
CC: NetMod WG Chairs
Subject: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
Please voice
I support the adoption.
Best regards,
Bo
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发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Lou Berger
发送时间: 2020年12月8日 6:28
收件人: NETMOD Group
抄送: NetMod WG Chairs
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This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for:
https
Forward the message from Ander to the list, thanks!
-Qin
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发件人: andersliu(刘琛) [mailto:anders...@tencent.com]
发送时间: 2020年12月11日 17:18
收件人: Qin Wu
主题: FW: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10(Internet mail)
在 2020/12/11 下午4:30，“andersliu(刘琛)” 写入:
Hi,ALL
Hi all:
I support this draft.
Yonbo Liu
-邮件原件- 发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Lou Berger 发送时间:
2020年12月8日 6:28 收件人: NETMOD Group 抄送: NetMod WG Chairs
主题: [netmod] Adoption poll for
draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10 This email begins a 2-week adoption poll
Hello, all,
I support the adoption of this draft.
Best regards
Chongfeng
-- Original --
From: "Lou Berger" ;
Date: Tue, Dec 8, 2020 06:27 AM
To: "NETMOD Group";
Cc: "NetMod WG Chairs";
Subject: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-ne
r
Sent: 07 December 2020 22:28
To: NETMOD Group
Cc: NetMod WG Chairs
Subject: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
Please voice your support or technical objections on list
I support adoption.
/jan
> On 7 Dec 2020, at 23:27, Lou Berger wrote:
>
> This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for:
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
>
> Please voice your support or technical objections on list before the end of
> December 21, any time zone.
I support adoption (as a contributor).
--- Alex
-Original Message-
From: netmod On Behalf Of Lou Berger
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 2:33 PM
To: NETMOD Group
Cc: NetMod WG Chairs
Subject: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
I should have mentioned
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Hi all,
I support the adoption.
Best Regards,
Wei
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From:
"Lou Berger"
Hi, all
I support the adoption.
Best Regards
Zongpeng Du
duzongp...@foxmail.com & duzongp...@chinamobile.com
From: Lou Berger
Date: 2020-12-08 06:27
To: NETMOD Group
CC: NetMod WG Chairs
Subject: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
This email begins a 2-
Support as a coauthor.
-Qin
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发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Lou Berger
发送时间: 2020年12月8日 6:28
收件人: NETMOD Group
抄送: NetMod WG Chairs
主题: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for:
https://tools.ietf.org
I should have mentioned that this is the 2nd adoption call on this
document. for full context on discussion on this draft, see
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/netmod/?q=draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang
On 12/7/2020 5:27 PM, Lou Berger wrote:
This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for:
This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
Please voice your support or technical objections on list before the end
of December 21, any time zone.
Thank you!
Netmod Chairs
PS Note the IPR poll is running concurrently as the
Hi Igor,
quick responses inline. I think we are by and large on the same page.
--- Alex
From: Igor Bryskin
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 6:30 AM
To: Alexander Clemm ; Andy Bierman
Cc: netmod@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang
Hi Andy, Jurgen, Alex
bring back the earlier draft.)”
>
> As we worked on the smart filter before. We want to use the ECA model.
>
> It seems this model enabled the generic programmability. Can we just use
> it to program any filter or what potentially need to augment/customize for
> a specific model?
>
&
d@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang
Hi the authors,
>“Another one to allow the definition of custom events/notifications, or smart
>filters for push updates. (We should bring back the earlier draft.)”
As we worked on the smart filter before
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2020 4:44 PM
> *To:* Alexander Clemm ; Joel Jaeggli ;
> netmod@ietf.org
> *Subject:* RE: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang
>
>
>
> Hi the authors,
>
>
>
> >“Another one to allow the definition of custom even
that occurs before WG adoption or afterwards.
--- Alex
From: Tianran Zhou
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 4:44 PM
To: Alexander Clemm ; Joel Jaeggli ;
netmod@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang
Hi the authors,
>“Another one to allow the definition of cus
netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang
Hi,
I support this draft and would like to see netmod work on this, but I do think
some aspects need more maturing and parts of this probably should be rescoped.
Should the draft be adopted now, or should it be improved first and adopted
for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang
This email begins a 2 week working group adoption poll for:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-06<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftools.ietf.org%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-06=02%7C01%7Calex%40futurewei.
rg] 代表 Xufeng Liu
发送时间: 2020年2月25日 2:27
收件人: King, Daniel
抄送: netmod@ietf.org
主题: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang
Agree with Dan. The use case is valid, though the errors in the data model can
be fixed.
Support.
Thanks,
- Xufeng
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:44 AM King,
gt;
>
> BR, Dan.
>
>
>
> *From:* netmod *On Behalf Of *Benoit Claise
> *Sent:* 19 February 2020 10:46
> *To:* Schönwälder, Jürgen ; Joel
> Jaeggli
> *Cc:* netmod@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang
>
>
>
> Jür
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发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Sch?nw?lder, Jürgen
发送时间: 2020年2月19日 20:18
收件人: Benoit Claise
抄送: netmod@ietf.org
主题: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang
Benoit,
thanks for the clarification.
I still believe that the approach taken is wrong
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 4:18 AM Schönwälder, Jürgen <
j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
> Benoit,
>
> thanks for the clarification.
>
> I still believe that the approach taken is wrong. I doubt that network
> operators are interested in an assembly level approach for expressing
>
Benoit,
thanks for the clarification.
I still believe that the approach taken is wrong. I doubt that network
operators are interested in an assembly level approach for expressing
threshold triggers. I am not sure xpath is the answer either. What was
perhaps reasonable to try in the 90s (RMON,
an interoperable network-wide solution.
BR, Dan.
From: netmod On Behalf Of Benoit Claise
Sent: 19 February 2020 10:46
To: Schönwälder, Jürgen ; Joel Jaeggli
Cc: netmod@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang
Jürgen,
To tell that I was skeptical about the SUPA work
Jürgen,
To tell that I was skeptical about the SUPA work is just wrong.
I had great hopes for SUPA, as having consistent policy constructs in
YANG module was key. The big hope was that those SUPA constructs could
be re-used in other YANG modules
example: routing, ACL, security ...
Hi,
I think the procedures we used to follow under Marshall Rose as AD work
better than current adoption calls. First we agreed on what problem(s) to
solve.
Then we agree on solutions. Without the first, it is hard to achieve the
second.
I would support working on a short requirements draft
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 08:44:18AM -0800, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> This email begins a 2 week working group adoption poll for:
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-06
>
> Please voice your support or objections before the poll completes on
> March 3rd.
I am against adoption
This email begins a 2 week working group adoption poll for:
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Please voice your support or objections before the poll completes on
March 3rd.
Thanks
joel
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