Re: More disc cache improvements

2015-05-08 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message on 7 May 2015 Andrew Pinder wrote: > I wonder how stable the measurements are. I've just upgraded this > ARMini to RO 5.22 so have redone the measurements, still with NS#2771: > 161126 bytes/second. That's a massive increase. I had visited a > number of websites for that. > Tryin

Re: More disc cache improvements

2015-05-08 Thread cj
In article <0c9680c054.andrew-...@waitrose.com>, Andrew Pinder wrote: > I'm curious that there is so much variability! Will some of this not be due to the fact that stuff is already in the cache and won't be saved again? -- Chris Johnson

Re: More disc cache improvements

2015-05-08 Thread Brian
In article <0c9680c054.andrew-...@waitrose.com>, [snip] > More measurements: > Various sites including BBC election coverage: 212787 bytes/second > Relaunch, load home page only and quit: 0 bytes/second ??? > Same again, but force a refresh and then quit: 31146 bytes/second > Same again, but afte

Google

2015-05-08 Thread Richard Torrens (lists)
Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. Has anyone any cures or suggestions? -- Richard Torrens. http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats and more!

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 01:26:32PM +0100, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. > > Has anyone any cures or suggestions? > It has been reported in the tracker as bug number 2314. Google have changed the non javascript portion of their reply (the noscript

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread John Williams
In article <54c08c6513li...@torrens.org.uk>, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. > Has anyone any cures or suggestions? It still works if you put JS on - but, of course, that bu**ers up StreetMap. Now more than ever we need that magic JS ON/JS OFF

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Richard Porter
On 8 May 2015 Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. > Has anyone any cures or suggestions? I think it's absolutely essential that we have a javascript on/off button on the toolbar. If javescript is off google won't work and if it's on streetmap.co.uk w

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Tim Hill
In article <54c08c6513li...@torrens.org.uk>, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. > Has anyone any cures or suggestions? If you mean Google Search, in its stead I've been using DuckDuckGo with RISC OS for some time. https://duckduckgo.com/html/ -- w

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Alan Calder
In article <20150508125407.ga2...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: > On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 01:26:32PM +0100, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > > Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. > > > > Has anyone any cures or suggestions? > > [Snip] > We cannot do anything about this in

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Richard Torrens (lists)
In article <54c08ebfb1joh...@ukgateway.net>, John Williams wrote: > Or one of those "record your button presses and menu items" programs we > used to have in the olden days. It's called KeyStroke, Alisdair Jørgensen, originally sold by Quantum software, now PD. It could indeed record such a t

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Richard Torrens (lists)
In article <20150508125407.ga2...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: > It has been reported in the tracker as bug number 2314. Google have > changed the non javascript portion of their reply (the noscript entry) > to comtain completely broken html that simply causes the browser to > refresh

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message <20150508125407.ga2...@kyllikki.org> on 8 May 2015 Vincent Sanders wrote: > On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 01:26:32PM +0100, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: >> Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. >> >> Has anyone any cures or suggestions? >> > It has been reported in the tracker

Re: More disc cache improvements

2015-05-08 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message <54c085ed15ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk> on 8 May 2015 cj wrote: > In article <0c9680c054.andrew-...@waitrose.com>, >Andrew Pinder wrote: >> I'm curious that there is so much variability! > Will some of this not be due to the fact that stuff is already in the > cache and won't be

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Tony Moore
On 8 May 2015, Andrew Pinder wrote: [snip] > Which version of NetSurf are we talking about here? I'm on 3.4 (Dev > CI #2771) on RO 5.22 and haven't seen any problems with Google. Try tuning off JavaScript. Tony

Re: More disc cache improvements

2015-05-08 Thread Vincent Sanders
OK perhaps I needed to be more explicit in what I wanted to achieve from this testing. I am interested in the persistent disc cache write performance on different platforms, especially RISC OS, to see if my recent changes improve the situation there.. This means the browser must be used to retrie

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message on 8 May 2015 Tony Moore wrote: > On 8 May 2015, Andrew Pinder wrote: > [snip] >> Which version of NetSurf are we talking about here? I'm on 3.4 (Dev >> CI #2771) on RO 5.22 and haven't seen any problems with Google. > Try tuning off JavaScript. Sorry, I wasnt paying enough att

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread george greenfield
In message Tony Moore wrote: > On 8 May 2015, Andrew Pinder wrote: > > [snip] > >> Which version of NetSurf are we talking about here? I'm on 3.4 (Dev >> CI #2771) on RO 5.22 and haven't seen any problems with Google. > > Try tuning off JavaScript. > > Tony With JS off, accessin

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Tony Moore
On 8 May 2015, george greenfield wrote: [snip] > So a temporary workaround might be to enable JS, hotlist all > regularly-visited/needed sites, then disable JS and avoid using the > search page entirely. How is it possible to transfer an address, from the Google search page, to the NetSurf hotl

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread george greenfield
In message <3d8ea4c054.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk> Tony Moore wrote: > On 8 May 2015, george greenfield > wrote: > > [snip] > >> So a temporary workaround might be to enable JS, hotlist all >> regularly-visited/needed sites, then disable JS and avoid using the >> search page

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Frank de Bruijn
In article <54c08f864b...@timil.com>, Tim Hill wrote: > In article <54c08c6513li...@torrens.org.uk>, Richard Torrens (lists) > wrote: > > Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. > > Has anyone any cures or suggestions? > If you mean Google Search, in its stead I've been using DuckDuck

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Richard Torrens (lists)
Another way of using Google is, for example http://www.google.co.uk/search?&q=Acacia Just double click on the link. Works from Pluto, StronEd and anything else which will launch a URL. Once on the search, you can delete the search term and type in another. So it seems to be only from the first p

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Roger Darlington
On 8 May 2015, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > Another way of using Google is, for example > http://www.google.co.uk/search?&q=Acacia > Just double click on the link. Works from Pluto, StronEd and anything else > which will launch a URL. But that doesn't work on Netsurf :-( It just oscillates t

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Richard Porter
On 8 May 2015 Frank de Bruijn wrote: > In article <54c08f864b...@timil.com>, >Tim Hill wrote: >> In article <54c08c6513li...@torrens.org.uk>, Richard Torrens (lists) >> wrote: >>> Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. >>> Has anyone any cures or suggestions? >> If you mean Google

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Bernard Boase
On 8 May, li...@torrens.org.uk typed: > Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. > Has anyone any cures or suggestions? One suggestion would be to use https://startpage.com instead. It claims to: - be the world's most private search engine, - use Google in the background on your behalf any

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Tim Hill
In article <9118c3c054.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter wrote: [Snip] > I use Google to provide a search facility on my own web site. Which of > any of the other search engines or front ends allow you to create a > form which specifies a particular site? https://duckduckgo.com/s

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Richard Porter
On 8 May 2015 Bernard Boase wrote: > On 8 May, li...@torrens.org.uk typed: >> Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. >> Has anyone any cures or suggestions? > One suggestion would be to use https://startpage.com instead. > It claims to: > - be the world's most private search engine, >

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 8 May 2015 as I do recall, Vincent Sanders wrote: > On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 01:26:32PM +0100, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote: > > Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. > > > > Has anyone any cures or suggestions? > > > > It has been reported in the tracker as bug number 2314.

Re: Google

2015-05-08 Thread Roger Darlington
On 8 May 2015, Frank de Bruijn wrote: > In article <54c08f864b...@timil.com>, >Tim Hill wrote: >> In article <54c08c6513li...@torrens.org.uk>, Richard Torrens (lists) >> wrote: >>> Yesterday Google stopped working with Netsurf. >>> Has anyone any cures or suggestions? >> If you mean Google