Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-30 Thread PM
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 01:35, Richard Urwin wrote: Sorry if I jumped down your throat. I'm following this SCO et al debacle fairly closely, and you hit a trigger phrase. (as you know, Ken Brown, [probably bank-rolled by MS,] has accused Linus of copying MINIX when creating Linux. That would

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 19:51, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Monday 30 August 2004 00:35, Richard Urwin wrote: Sorry if I jumped down your throat. I'm following this SCO et al debacle fairly closely, and you hit a trigger phrase. (as you know, Ken Brown, [probably bank-rolled by MS,] has accused

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-29 Thread Richard Urwin
On Saturday 28 Aug 2004 9:20 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 02:41 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 28 August 2004 13:23:01, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while.

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-29 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday 29 August 2004 05:28 am, Richard Urwin wrote: On Saturday 28 Aug 2004 9:20 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 02:41 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 28 August 2004 13:23:01, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-29 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Monday 30 August 2004 00:35, Richard Urwin wrote: Sorry if I jumped down your throat. I'm following this SCO et al debacle fairly closely, and you hit a trigger phrase. (as you know, Ken Brown, [probably bank-rolled by MS,] has accused Linus of copying MINIX when creating Linux. That would

[newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Greg Meyer
I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just for the learning experience, and something has just dawned on me. If a Linux system needs to be built from a host system, how did the first linux system get built? In

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Charlie Mahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 28 August 2004 13:23:01, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just for the learning experience, and something has just dawned on me.

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 14:23, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build just for the learning experience, and something has just

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Saturday 28 August 2004 07:14 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 14:23, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Russ Kepler
On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:14 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: But then how was the first UNIX system created? On a PDP-11, likely using RSTS or RSX-11. It's really a 'bootstrapping' process (called so because you're lifting yourself by your bootstraps). From bare iron you write a loader that loads

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Russ Kepler
On Saturday 28 August 2004 06:25 pm, Russ Kepler wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:14 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: But then how was the first UNIX system created? On a PDP-11, likely using RSTS or RSX-11. Damn - missed the model by this: much.

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Saturday 28 August 2004 18:14, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 14:23, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while. I have been going through a Linux from Scratch build

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 28 August 2004 09:55 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 18:14, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 05:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 14:23, Greg Meyer wrote: I figure this one ought to keep the conversation going for a while.

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 10:21, Carroll Grigsby wrote: According to Dennis Ritchie (and he should know), it began on a PDP7 using assembly language. (See http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/hist.html). A very interesting read, particularly for those who have ever labored in the fields of RD

Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-28 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sunday 29 August 2004 12:12 am, Stephen Khn wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 10:21, Carroll Grigsby wrote: According to Dennis Ritchie (and he should know), it began on a PDP7 using assembly language. (See http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/hist.html). A very interesting read,