RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread Loke Kit Kai
partition magic can't resize if it is a server version... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles A Edwards Sent: 27 October 2001 07:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2? On Sat, 27 Oct

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:23:47 +1300 Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It will probably still be possible to put in a second drive and dual > boot into > linux. Someone will have checked it out by now. > > Just as an aside. Have you noticed how in text mode "XP" looks like a > smiley > for some

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread Michael
It will probably still be possible to put in a second drive and dual boot into linux. Someone will have checked it out by now. Just as an aside. Have you noticed how in text mode "XP" looks like a smiley for someone dead or dying. Elmer Fudd's advice to M$ "Be wery wery carefull - he he he". Der

RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread Michael D. Viron
>Linux still have a long way to go, compared to where microsoft is... So, >learn from the strength of microsoft, and combine both to win ppl over... >and not argue among urselves, and accomplish nothing except to maybe plant >seeds of disunity... >If Linux really rise up to the occasion, I am will

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
t; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2? > > > on 10/26/01 11:20 AM, Loke Kit Kai at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Guys, let stop arguing about these stuffs... It's not going to bring down > > Microsoft, nor lift up Linux

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:18:14 -0500, Matt Greer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 10/26/01 10:52 AM, Franki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Yeah, I agree, I just disagree with some of your statements, > > > I think for the most part we agree, we're just arguing the details. > > > particularly th

RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread Franki
) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Greer Sent: Friday, 26 October 2001 11:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2? on 10/26/01 10:12 AM, Franki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As for your commen

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread shane
yes, mainly the "good technical reasons" are that if you have xp anywhere in your network and want to share files from it you need to upgrade all of your machines to insure everything works correctly. ...spreads like a virus don't it? On Friday 26 October 2001 03:23, you spoke

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread Matt Greer
on 10/26/01 10:12 AM, Franki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As for your comment on it being fine for M$ to use the kernel instead of the > API's then you havent been reading the thread on this, there are heaps of > reasons why that shouldn't be done. security realiability... etc.. > It's hardly g

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread shane
On Friday 26 October 2001 08:21, you spoke unto me thusly: the Windows OS?? Their lack of ethics is the stuff legends are made from! > > Ethics is one thing, legality is another. I've stated several times in this > thread I don't like MS at all. Just because I don't like them doesn't mean > I aut

RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread Franki
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Greer Sent: Friday, 26 October 2001 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2? on 10/26/01 12:13 AM, Franki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All I wish to say is that the reason the US Judge wanted to split M$ into > two

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread Matt Greer
on 10/26/01 10:03 AM, michael at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> But that basically turns it into MS providing Windows as a "charity" to the >> industry so other companies can compete on it. > Huh?? That would put MS in the position of providing Windows just so the industry can keep going. >> Why s

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread michael
On Friday 26 October 2001 07:30 am, you wrote: > on 10/26/01 12:13 AM, Franki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > All I wish to say is that the reason the US Judge wanted to split M$ into > > two or > > more companies was to split the OS off from the rest of their offerings. > > So that the applicatio

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread Matt Greer
on 10/26/01 12:13 AM, Franki at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All I wish to say is that the reason the US Judge wanted to split M$ into > two or > more companies was to split the OS off from the rest of their offerings. > So that the application M$ would be on even ground with everyone else > writi

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-26 Thread Derek Jennings
Very interesting article It occurs to me that since so few PC's are sold with Linux preloaded, and new XP computers will have their discs formatted in NTFS, within 2 or 3 years Linux will be squeezed out. Consumers will be unable to try out Linux even if they wanted to. Most people are no

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-25 Thread John Hokanson Jr.
On Thursday 25 October 2001 10:13 pm, you wrote: > > I realized after I sent that I worded my post poorly. I do believe > MS has an unfair monopoly and probably got there with the help of > some illegal practices. > > But I don't think MS having more knowledge of the workings of > Windows is nece

RE: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-25 Thread Franki
I realized after I sent that I worded my post poorly. I do believe MS has an unfair monopoly and probably got there with the help of some illegal practices. But I don't think MS having more knowledge of the workings of Windows is necessarily unfair. If they use that knowledge to shut out competi

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-25 Thread Paul
In reply to Sridhar Dhanapalan's words, written Fri, 26 Oct 2001 03:39:22 +1000 >Here are some interesting articles I found regarding Microsoft's misuse of >monopoly power: > >http://www.byte.com/documents/s=1115/byt20010824s0001/ >http://www.infoanarchy.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/10/23/17629/

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-25 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
Here are some interesting articles I found regarding Microsoft's misuse of monopoly power: http://www.byte.com/documents/s=1115/byt20010824s0001/ http://www.infoanarchy.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/10/23/17629/221 -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "I was never a "big thinker". One of my philosophies in L

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-25 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
Here are some interesting articles I found regarding Microsoft's misuse of monopoly power: http://www.byte.com/documents/s=1115/byt20010824s0001/ http://www.infoanarchy.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/10/23/17629/221 -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "I was never a "big thinker". One of my philosophies in L

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-25 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:36:43 -0700, "John Hokanson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 24 October 2001 07:53 am, you wrote: > > Matt Greer wrote: > > > You missed the point. MS isn't required to create apps through > > > the Windows API. They've got the whole run of the OS, considering

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-24 Thread John Hokanson Jr.
On Wednesday 24 October 2001 07:53 am, you wrote: > Matt Greer wrote: > > You missed the point. MS isn't required to create apps through > > the Windows API. They've got the whole run of the OS, considering > > they made it. Which means they can do things no one else can. So > > IE has advantages

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-24 Thread shane
...the courts for one. ;) On Wednesday 24 October 2001 07:53, you spoke unto me thusly: > > I won't go any further except to say there are quite a few people that > believe that some of the methods used to obtain and maintain their > monopoly were unfair and possibly illegal. -- ...in a world

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-24 Thread John Hokanson Jr.
> wrote: > > On Monday 22 October 2001 04:07 pm, you wrote: > > > On Monday 22 October 2001 05:11 pm, you wrote: > > > > On Monday 22 October 2001 02:50 pm, you wrote: > > > > > In reply to Eric Baber's words, written Mon, 22 Oct 2001 > > > > > 17:07:10 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > Spoken like a true

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-23 Thread Mike Leone
> > I personally believe that Microsoft Internet Explorer is the best web > > browser out there. > > > > For any platform. > > > > Period. > > Perhaps if you like the following: > > 1. The browser is automatically installed and starts up at every boot whether > you want it or not (which explains w

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-23 Thread shane
you are kidding right? the browser that loads virus directly from web pages? the browser that for a while featured "write once, write anywhere, even over your system files" technology? the browser that doesn't even pretend to try to be standards compliant? ...and talk about small! try upgr

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-23 Thread Matt Greer
on 10/23/01 1:57 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 5. You don't want to ever use Java. In a move against Sun, Java support has > been > discontinued in IE6. > Actually I dont ever want to use Java in a webpage. I hate java applets. Most people forget or don't realize there's

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-23 Thread Pascal Goguey
Hello! > Don't forget MacOS and MacOSX. The latter could qualify as a form of Unix. > > I wonder why MS sees Linux as a threat and not these other Unices. I > suppose since it can run on the x86? Because Linux is dangerous for MS, and MacOS, HP-UX, Solaris, etc are not. The reason is simply tha

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-23 Thread Steve Borrett
> > Spoken like a true newbie. Linux and Microsoft do not mix. > >Could we PLEASE be a little nicer to the poor guy. > >They *DO* have IE for non-Microsoft operating systems. I believe Sun >has a variant, and they were doing one for HP-UX. IE is also the browser of choice on the Mac. It evens wo

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-23 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 00:08:51 -0700, "John Hokanson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well on their way? > > > > They obtained the code from another company who had made it as a > > variant of the Mosaic client. The deal was for a "percentage of > > sales". Wow, did that other company make

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-23 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:02:23 -0700, "John Hokanson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 22 October 2001 04:07 pm, you wrote: > > On Monday 22 October 2001 05:11 pm, you wrote: > > > On Monday 22 October 2001 02:50 pm, you wrote: > > > > In reply to Eric Baber's words, written Mon, 22 Oct 20

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-22 Thread John Hokanson Jr.
> > Well on their way? > > They obtained the code from another company who had made it as a > variant of the Mosaic client. The deal was for a "percentage of > sales". Wow, did that other company make a killing! 95% market > share times nothing! If you're referring to MSIE 1.0/2.0 (which was i

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-22 Thread civileme
On Monday 22 October 2001 16:02, John Hokanson Jr. wrote: > On Monday 22 October 2001 04:07 pm, you wrote: > > On Monday 22 October 2001 05:11 pm, you wrote: > > > On Monday 22 October 2001 02:50 pm, you wrote: > > > > In reply to Eric Baber's words, written Mon, 22 Oct 2001 > > > > 17:07:10 +0100

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-22 Thread ddcharles
Hi, I DO know that I have seen a Unix version of Internet Explorer, however, I do NOT know if it will run on Linux, and whether or not the source is available. Just go to Microsoft's website, and you should be able to find the information there about IE for Unix. HTH, David Charles On Mon, 22

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-22 Thread John Hokanson Jr.
On Monday 22 October 2001 04:07 pm, you wrote: > On Monday 22 October 2001 05:11 pm, you wrote: > > On Monday 22 October 2001 02:50 pm, you wrote: > > > In reply to Eric Baber's words, written Mon, 22 Oct 2001 > > > 17:07:10 +0100 > > > > > > Spoken like a true newbie. Linux and Microsoft do not m

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-22 Thread Matt Greer
On Monday 22 October 2001 05:11 pm, you wrote: > On Monday 22 October 2001 02:50 pm, you wrote: > > In reply to Eric Baber's words, written Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:07:10 > > +0100 > > > > Spoken like a true newbie. Linux and Microsoft do not mix. > > Could we PLEASE be a little nicer to the poor guy.

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-22 Thread John Hokanson Jr.
On Monday 22 October 2001 02:50 pm, you wrote: > In reply to Eric Baber's words, written Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:07:10 > +0100 > > Spoken like a true newbie. Linux and Microsoft do not mix. Could we PLEASE be a little nicer to the poor guy. They *DO* have IE for non-Microsoft operating systems. I

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-22 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 04:31:55 -0800 "Allen H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cleverly noted: > Try Opera, it's better than NetCaptor on Windows, > which is just IE with a tabbed interface, and is skinnable too, > also has that (not-so) irritating advert pasted on the toolbar, > reminding you to do the resp

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-22 Thread Rick [Kitty5]
> I'm a complete Linux newbie and am just finding my way around. I've > searched a newsgroup and several web-archives, along with the > Microsoft site, for information about an Internet Explorer version > that'll work on Mandrake 7.2. Is there such a thing? I haven't been > able to find it on the

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-22 Thread civileme
On Monday 22 October 2001 08:07, Eric Baber wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm a complete Linux newbie and am just finding my way around. I've > searched a newsgroup and several web-archives, along with the > Microsoft site, for information about an Internet Explorer version > that'll work on Mandrake 7.2.

Re: [newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-22 Thread Paul
In reply to Eric Baber's words, written Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:07:10 +0100 Spoken like a true newbie. Linux and Microsoft do not mix. There is no Internet Exploiter for Linux. So your search was accurate. You can have Netscape, Galeon, Mozilla and Opera, and a bunch more. Paul >I'm a complete Linu

[newbie] Internet Explorer for Mandrake 7.2?

2001-10-22 Thread Eric Baber
Hi all, I'm a complete Linux newbie and am just finding my way around. I've searched a newsgroup and several web-archives, along with the Microsoft site, for information about an Internet Explorer version that'll work on Mandrake 7.2. Is there such a thing? I haven't been able to find it on the M