On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 15:53:18 -0500
Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
Heather is right.
Doesn't sound *trivial*. I can't see some script-kiddie accomplishing
that like they can with a worm or virus.
Once again, that was the point of the debate. It is easy to compromise
Win, it is not easy
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 14:53, Tom Brinkman wrote:
On Saturday August 16 2003 12:19 am, HaywireMac wrote:
On 14 Aug 2003 21:30:35 -0600
Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
Its not the impregnable fortress
That wasn't really the nature of the argument. The fact is it is
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For now... till linux gets more popular, then we'll see virii
more sophisticated attacks on our comps.
Hell we'll see rootkits and DYI Hack em Kits Like they have in
the windows world. Its
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 13:49, Heather/Femme wrote:
Linux software vendors do it too...look @ RH.
Now you've crossed the line, Ms. Pink.
Taking a stab at RED HAT? Hmmm?
Oh, wait...sorry...forgot-I use Mandrake now.
Nevermind.
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On 14 Aug 2003 21:30:35 -0600
Heather/Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
Its not the impregnable fortress
That wasn't really the nature of the argument. The fact is it is
*trivial* to break Windows, it will *never* be trivial to break *nix, as
long as the Open Source model is preserved.
There
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:06:35 -0400
Luis-Miguel Astudillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
Every system has its strenghts and flaws but at the end is the user
that knows if he/she is ready to live with their choice. All of the
above systems have their merit according to the user needs.
The
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 14:06, Luis-Miguel Astudillo wrote:
Dear Stephen,
I work on large scale environments that have Unix (SUN/AIX/HP), Mainframe
and of course Windows PCs and Servers (from 20 to 300K users) world-wide.
My clients are provincial Governments, Airlines and in the Financial
You guys have left out the user group and permissions thing..
If you DID get a virus of sorts on your system and you got it
while running an email client as your user login.
You can only trash your own files (Ie files you have permissions to access)
not the system files..
In windows, although
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 12:29, Erylon Hines wrote:
If you'll notice, most of these advisorys deal with local/normal users gaining
access and putting code where it shouldn't be. This is very different from a
remote vuln which allows an unknown user to alter system files.
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As well - it's
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 20:18, ed tharp wrote:
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 00:06, Luis-Miguel Astudillo wrote:
Welcome Luis-Miguel.
I know you addressed Stephen, but let me take a stab.
there should be an almost natural visible difference between closed
source (ie.; M$)reporting of problems (as in;
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 00:06, Luis-Miguel Astudillo wrote:
Welcome Luis-Miguel.
I know you addressed Stephen, but let me take a stab.
there should be an almost natural visible difference between closed
source (ie.; M$)reporting of problems (as in; 'if you look for problems,
we can send you to jail,
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 23:26, Haywiremac wrote:
The difference is it is far more trivial to compromise a Windows system
with little or no hacker training than it is to compromise a Linux
system. For the average desktop user there is simply no comparison.
snip
For now... till linux gets more
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 04:35, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
snick
For ONE YEAR they should sit back, stop trying to FORCE the market and
fix the damn product once and for all. ONCE it's fixed, stable, tested,
tried and true, THEN they should re-market themselves - they're wasting
incredible amounts of
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