Re: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft

2002-10-17 Thread Miark
if 90%plus of all user run windows, and people fear change, and you sell computers, the people who make windows (MS) say you will sell all your machines with windows, or you will not sell any with it. ...would you give in? My question is more on the legal side. How can _any_ company

Re: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft

2002-10-17 Thread John Richard Smith
Miark wrote: if 90%plus of all user run windows, and people fear change, and you sell computers, the people who make windows (MS) say you will sell all your machines with windows, or you will not sell any with it. ...would you give in? My question is more on the legal side. How can

Re: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft

2002-10-17 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 17 October 2002 8:51 am, Miark did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: My question is more on the legal side. How can _any_ company dictate what their resellers will sell? And that goes _double_ for a monopoly. M$ was taken to

Re: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft

2002-10-17 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 17 October 2002 10:01 am, John Richard Smith did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Here in the UK such a position is illegal, but that doesn't always mean The European Commission is not weak and it has it's teeth right into M$

Re: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft

2002-10-17 Thread Mark Weaver
Todd Slater wrote: In another blow to Microsoft, a fourth computer maker plans to bundle Corel's WordPerfect Office with its low-end consumer machines. http://news.com.com/2100-1040-962085.html Now if some of the biggies would just sell some puters without an OS! Todd Todd, You can order

RE: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft

2002-10-16 Thread Craig Williamson (ENZ)
Title: RE: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft Hi There, Technically they can't. Microsoft slapped on new requirements to stop them doing that. But. Dell have found a way to get around it. If you order their n-series PC's it has a copy of FreeDOS (one floppy) included in the box. The n

Re: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft

2002-10-16 Thread Todd Slater
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 06:00:14 +1000 Craig Williamson (ENZ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi There, Technically they can't. Microsoft slapped on new requirements to stop them doing that. But. Dell have found a way to get around it. If you order their n-series PC's it has a copy

RE: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft

2002-10-16 Thread Craig Williamson (ENZ)
Title: RE: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft Hi There, It is probably true that Dell sales people don't want to sell this, because it is mainly for businesses. Also they probably don't want to peeve Microsoft anymore than they already have. Some more information. http://news.com.com

Re: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft

2002-10-16 Thread Miark
But. Dell have found a way to get around it. If you order their n-series PC's it has a copy of FreeDOS (one floppy) included in the box. Hmm. I've never had much use for Dell because of their Wintel mode of business. I think I actually felt a tinge of respect for them today. An odd

Re: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft

2002-10-16 Thread windwalker
On Wednesday 16 October 2002 13:00, Craig Williamson (ENZ) wrote: Hi There, Technically they can't. Microsoft slapped on new requirements to stop them doing that. But. Dell have found a way to get around it. If you order their n-series PC's it has a copy of FreeDOS (one

Re: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft

2002-10-16 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Thursday 17 October 2002 12:12 am, windwalker wrote: On Wednesday 16 October 2002 13:00, Craig Williamson (ENZ) wrote: Hi There, Technically they can't. Microsoft slapped on new requirements to stop them doing that. But. Dell have found a way to get around it. If you

Re: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft

2002-10-16 Thread shane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 16 October 2002 9:12 pm, windwalker did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Walmart is selling systems without OS on them... When i was there only thing for a OS on shelf was Linux in either SuSe,Mandrake or Redhat. they sell

Re: [newbie] OT-Gateway snubs Microsoft

2002-10-16 Thread windwalker
On Wednesday 16 October 2002 08:17, shane wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 16 October 2002 9:12 pm, windwalker did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Walmart is selling systems without OS on them... When i was there only thing for a OS on shelf was