[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 700s on craigslist

2012-01-14 Thread Dave
both sound road trip worthy from central pa! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/7nGDmSqYFloJ. To post to this group, send

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 700s on craigslist

2012-01-14 Thread LBOCEAN
I went by and saw this one in person. In ggo shape, no leaks. He's flexable on the price too. http://eugene.craigslist.org/mcy/2762926824.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email t

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Listings / For Sale

2012-01-14 Thread LBOCEAN
Actually, I went by and saw the bike, took pics/video as well. It's in good shape, no leaks, very minor scrathes, small scrape under left front casting. Only thing not on are the rear signals, but they have them. (And yep, he's still in the picture, both were there at the time). I found a dupli

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Battery recommendations

2012-01-14 Thread LBOCEAN
Tad expensive, I've used Odyessy's and have good luck/longevity. Plus the Dist. Is local to me and get a better than online pricing. http://www.odysseybattery.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to thi

[Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Graham Rogers
I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No matter what the temperature is (at least so far this winter) I have to spray a real small shot of starting fluid into each air cleaner intake to get the bike started. It won't take any choke. In fact the ch

[Nighthawk Lovers] 1984 Honda Shadow 700

2012-01-14 Thread Graham Rogers
There's a 1984 Honda Shadow in this area I'd like to look at but the starter motor needs replacing. The owner says it's not easy to get at - remove the fly wheel which maybe behind the clutch slave cylinder. Anyone familiar with the bike and know what's involved in removing the starter? Graham

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Allen Thomas
My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Ni

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Jason King
Maybe the bowls are draining back out when it sits and gets cold and it doesn't have enough pump to fill them till its running On Jan 14, 2012 4:05 PM, "Allen Thomas" wrote: > My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -Original Message- >

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Kyle Munz
3,2,1...Seafoam! -Kyle On Jan 14, 2012 3:05 PM, "Allen Thomas" wrote: > My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -Original Message- > From: Graham Rogers > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:15:20 > To

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread surfswab
+1 on enrichener circuit. Or a vacuum leak maybe. Gravity-fed or fuel pump? On Jan 14, 1:15 pm, Graham Rogers wrote: > I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can > get it started.  No matter what the temperature is (at least so far > this winter) I have to spray a r

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Graham Rogers
I had two sets of carbs to work with and I cleaned them both thoroughly , including all passage ways and jets - no enrichment valves on this bike. The choke really is a choke. I tried both sets of carbs and the results were the same. Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Allen Thomas wr

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Graham Rogers
That makes sense because it seems more a time related issue than temperature but there's no sign of leaking gas, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Jason King wrote: Maybe the bowls are draining back out when it sits and gets cold and it doesn't have enough pump to fill them till its runni

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Graham Rogers
For that I need a day with temps above 40 degrees. On Jan 14, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: 3,2,1...Seafoam! -Kyle On Jan 14, 2012 3:05 PM, "Allen Thomas" wrote: My guess would be the enrichment valves are clogged shut. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graha

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Graham Rogers
gravity fed, no enrichener circuit On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:24 PM, surfswab wrote: +1 on enrichener circuit. Or a vacuum leak maybe. Gravity-fed or fuel pump? On Jan 14, 1:15 pm, Graham Rogers wrote: I have cleaned the carbs on a 454 and the bike runs great - when I can get it started. No

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Allen Thomas
It might have o-rings in the intake manifold that seals to the heads. Suzuki does that, and when they crack you get a bad vacuum leak before the carb. I'd try spraying carb cleaner around the whole intake system while its running and listen for any rpm changes. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Graham Rogers
No, it's not like Suzukis and I've tried that - no vacuum leaks. It's a bit of a mystery isn't it, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: It might have o-rings in the intake manifold that seals to the heads. Suzuki does that, and when they crack you get a bad vacuum lea

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Allen Thomas
You threw me a curve with using two sets of carbs. If you use your hand to further "choke" the carbs will it start? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:40:01 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_love

RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread greenzer...@gmail.com
Leak down compression test? Im having simalar issues with my diesel ---Original Message--- From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: 1/14/2012 8:39 pm To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD gravity fed, no enrichener circu

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Allen Thomas
Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it starts when warm then it can't be too rich, if it was too rich it would be hard starting when hot. How does the "choke" work on that bike is it in t

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Allen Thomas
True compression goes up when the engine gets hot. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: "greenzer...@gmail.com" Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:59:27 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: S

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Jason King
Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean > or rich mixture, but still sounds like is not getting enough gas. Since it > starts when warm then it can't be

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Graham Rogers
I'll check that but I don't think it would idle so well and so low if it had a compression problem besides it has great power On Jan 14, 2012, at 8:59 PM, greenzer...@gmail.com wrote: Leak down compression test? Im having simalar issues with my diesel ---Original Message--- From: nighthawk

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Graham Rogers
choke is in the carbs, just open/close butterflies and remember I tried two separate sets of carbs, thoroughly cleaned with same results. On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start a lean or rich mixture, but still sound

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Graham Rogers
Good read, I'm thinking the problem may be outside the carbs, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Jason King wrote: Check out this link http://www.dansmc.com/starter.htm On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: Hmmm, since ether is more explosive that gas it can help to start

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread hallman
I think it might be the battery is a little week. Try to start with a charger hooked to it. It might not have enough juice for the coils to work. rodhall cb550sc -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers To: nighthawk_lovers Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2012 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lov

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Graham Rogers
Brand new battery but good thought. I'll give it an extra jump, Graham On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:57 PM, hall...@luckymail.com wrote: I think it might be the battery is a little week. Try to start with a charger hooked to it. It might not have enough juice for the coils to work. rodhall cb5

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Allen Thomas
Yes. +1 to that assessment. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Graham Rogers Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:45:27 To: Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD Goo

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starting issue on Kawasaki 454LTD

2012-01-14 Thread Allen Thomas
Hey Graham, did you ever do anything with that GS1000 or that old KZ? On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > Yes. +1 to that assessment. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > From: Graham Rogers > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > Date: Sat

[Nighthawk Lovers] Not a Nighthawk but could be a stellar deal.

2012-01-14 Thread Allen Thomas
http://lancaster.craigslist.org/mcy/2799791177.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_