[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread Giles Davis
Hi there, I'm from the UK and have an '85 CD250 (same engine) that has * exactly* the same problem - i.e. warm it up, head off, it loses power when you put the throttle on, then surges, then I'm up and running. Only ever happens in the first minute or so. Once engine's been running it goes away.

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread Allen Thomas
Quote: warm it up, head off, it loses power when you put the throttle on, then surges, then I'm up and running. Only ever happens in the first minute or so. Once engine's been running it goes away. I can stop, do some shopping, come back and it will be fine. That is normal behavior. Leave the

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread Giles Davis
I have a theory that 99% of internet questions boil down to is this normal?. Thanks Allen! I'm going to head out this afternoon and leave my choke on. I'll report back On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.comwrote: Quote: warm it up, head off, it loses power when

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Funny Noise

2013-08-16 Thread Allen Thomas
Pull the chain from the back of the rear sprocket. If you can fit a 1/16 drill bit under the chain then you need to replace them. Here is one guy's write up. Personally I think he is letting the wear go too far. And WD40 is not a suitable chain lubricant/cleaner as it is a penetrating oil and will

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread Allen Thomas
On cold days I used to: 1. Start bike 2. Wait for RPMS to jump up to 3K, and lower choke till it went down to 2k. 3. Gear up, keeping an eye on the RPMs and adjusting back down to 2k when needed. 4. Once choke was about 3/4 off I'd hop on the bike and ride away. 5. Occasionally pull in the clutch

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread Giles Davis
And that was your recipe to cure the slump / surge on start up? I like the science - I'm trying it! On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.comwrote: On cold days I used to: 1. Start bike 2. Wait for RPMS to jump up to 3K, and lower choke till it went down to 2k. 3.

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Funny Noise

2013-08-16 Thread Allen Thomas
Since we are on the subject of chains, I found this article and I'm definitely buying the brush. http://www.webbikeworld.com/r4/tirox-motorcycle-chain-cleaner/ http://www.jpcycles.com/search/search?Ntt=tiroxContext=0Ntk=All On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread R. Campbell
Side question: How do you have your bike running without being on it? My bike won't start unless the sidestand is up and will kill the engine if I put the sidestand down. Do you just lean it against a wall or something? On Aug 16, 2013 6:41 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: On cold

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread nighthawkin
depending on the bike you should be able to leave it on side stand and just pull in the clutch and after it starts let clutch out. your not in gear. it will stay running. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:43 AM, R. Campbell likethes...@gmail.com wrote: Side question: How do you have your bike running

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread Allen Thomas
Put the bike in neutral. The sidestand switch only kills the bike when it is in gear. If yours kills the bike when in neutral then you have a wiring issue. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:43 AM, R. Campbell likethes...@gmail.com wrote: Side question: How do you have your bike running without being

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread nighthawkin
yea either the side stand switch or the clutch switch would be my guess? On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Put the bike in neutral. The sidestand switch only kills the bike when it is in gear. If yours kills the bike when in neutral then you have a

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread Giles Davis
Yep, do the traditional Honda riverdance of trying to find neutral. Same thing happened/s on my Deauville, Transalp and 125 Varadero! My lawnmower works like a dream though... On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 1:59 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.com wrote: yea either the side stand switch or the

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Motorcycle for sale

2013-08-16 Thread Chris Lopez
Graham ill post pictures and all yhe info this weekend. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013, Graham Rogers wrote: sure would like to see pics and particulars, On Aug 14, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Chris Lopez wrote: Location is Cherry Hill NJ I did forget about that On Wednesday, August 14, 2013,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2001 Nighthawk 750 black with 8200 miles

2013-08-16 Thread nighthawkin
heres ebay completed list - http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=honda+750_osacat=6024_from=R40LH_Complete=1_vxp=mtr_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.Xhonda+nighthawk+750_nkw=honda+nighthawk+750_sacat=6024 heres kbb - ouch! I don't like what they have to say! 1525 trade in and 2280 retail.

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Funny Noise

2013-08-16 Thread Javier Garcia
Here is a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ZwX3MWd7Y Looks like a nice product. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote: Since we are on the subject of chains, I found this article and I'm definitely buying the brush.

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2001 Nighthawk 750 black with 8200 miles

2013-08-16 Thread Allen Thomas
What is the mileage? Any marks from being dropped like on the pipes or mirrors? Does the tach still work? All of this and any other condition issue will work against you. Personally $3000 is about top price unless you get someone who HAS to have that bike. For $3k I'd expect new tires,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2001 Nighthawk 750 black with 8200 miles

2013-08-16 Thread nighthawkin
allen? its in the title. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.comwrote: What is the mileage? Any marks from being dropped like on the pipes or mirrors? Does the tach still work? All of this and any other condition issue will work against you. Personally $3000 is

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2001 Nighthawk 750 black with 8200 miles

2013-08-16 Thread Javier Garcia
Well but this is a 2001, and you don't see those very often. I would say if everything works fine and mileage is low, $3k is about right. Javier. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.comwrote: What is the mileage? Any marks from being dropped like on the pipes or

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2001 Nighthawk 750 black with 8200 miles

2013-08-16 Thread Allen Thomas
DOH!! On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote: Well but this is a 2001, and you don't see those very often. I would say if everything works fine and mileage is low, $3k is about right. Javier. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Allen Thomas

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2001 Nighthawk 750 black with 8200 miles

2013-08-16 Thread Allen Thomas
Still condition and mods play a major role in the price that people are willing to pay. With 8K and no condition issues I agree $3000 is a fair price. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.comwrote: DOH!! On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Javier Garcia

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2001 Nighthawk 750 black with 8200 miles

2013-08-16 Thread Allen Thomas
Here is one that is not only the rare 1 year only blue color, but actually sold on ebay. It has 24K miles which we all know is nothing, it sold for $2000. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Nighthawk-/141009037939?hash=item20d4cb2a73vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_1182 On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:30 AM,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2001 Nighthawk 750 black with 8200 miles

2013-08-16 Thread Thomas Cuzman
To all, It has never been dropped, but the tach does bounce around, so not broken all the way yet, but the spring I am sure will go soon. Still pondering the idea of keeping but thought I would ask the group there thoughts on price? Thanks for the input. Tom On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:29 AM,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2001 Nighthawk 750 black with 8200 miles

2013-08-16 Thread Allen Thomas
Sure, for what it is worth my kids are still relatively young as well. I struggled with it for a while too, and still do sometimes. I occasionally feel selfish because I am putting myself at an increased risk. But you have to live your life as well, and if doing something you love on occasion is

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread Graham Rogers
should run in neutral with side stand down On Aug 16, 2013, at 8:43 AM, R. Campbell wrote: Side question: How do you have your bike running without being on it? My bike won't start unless the sidestand is up and will kill the engine if I put the sidestand down. Do you just lean it against a

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 2001 Nighthawk 750 black with 8200 miles

2013-08-16 Thread Graham Rogers
Yours is worth at least $3000. What you see on Craigslist is seldom what they sell for. However, I had a 2002 with less than 4,000 miles on it and sold it a few months ago for $3800. I had only one person come and look at it and he didn't ask any questions, just bought it on the spot. Mine

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread Rachel Campbell
First of all, hot damn, you totally CAN put the side stand down in neutral! This is a life changing discovery. You guys are my heroes. Second of all, the choke thing. This helped! I started the bike, choke all the way on. After a couple minutes, I went down to 3/4 choke, another couple

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread nighthawkin
no that is not normal. it should not take 8 miles with choke on to warm up. what is the idle set at? not sure of a nh 250 idle rpm's but I think 1k or higher? make sure the idle is set at the proper rpm? did you double up the seafoam? what oil is in the bike? 10w40 or ? On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at

[Nighthawk Lovers] 2 vt500 ascots projects $500

2013-08-16 Thread nighthawkin
ron on the ascot forum has 2 project ascots for 500 if anyone is interested? heres his email and videos. he lives in Newport, va 24128 zamm2...@gmail.com http://youtu.be/esDepFrtoQI http://youtu.be/gIj5l0NcYwM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread Rachel Campbell
How do I find out what the idle is set at? I don't know what oil is in it. :\ I didn't add more Seafoam before my ride tonight, but I'll do that tomorrow and go on a long ride. Thanks! On Friday, August 16, 2013 9:25:33 PM UTC-5, nighthawkin wrote: no that is not normal. it should not take 8

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread Allen Thomas
Your carbs are probably a bit dirty. There are lots of youtube videos on how to clean them. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.com wrote: no that is not normal. it should not take 8 miles with choke on to warm up. what is the idle set at? not sure of a nh 250 idle

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread Allen Thomas
The 250 doesn't have a tach correct? I think what Jim was going for was Is your idle speed really slow?, Also I have tried a product called Startron, and I have to say it worked for me. You might want to give that a try as well as a bigger dose of seafoam. http://mystarbrite.com/startron/ On

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread nighthawkin
allens right. thks. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.comwrote: The 250 doesn't have a tach correct? I think what Jim was going for was Is your idle speed really slow?, Also I have tried a product called Startron, and I have to say it worked for me. You might

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread Graham Rogers
Doesn't sound normal to me but I did have a Honda Rebel 250 that did that - even after I cleaned the carb so it may be normal for that engine, Graham On Aug 16, 2013, at 9:00 PM, Rachel Campbell wrote: First of all, hot damn, you totally CAN put the side stand down in neutral! This is a

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Acceleration or Throttle problem in lower gears

2013-08-16 Thread nighthawkin
bikes with thick oil have this issue also. I can see it being more difficult with a 250. rotella 10w30 is more than enough protection. not to mention it will get you better mpg's. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote: Doesn't sound normal to me but I