[nlug] Re: What's the best drop in Firewall App out there?

2008-11-11 Thread Greg Donald
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Chris Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, if > there are any other dropin firewall apps that are open source and don't > require a crapton of hardware requirements (a.k.a. Untangle), post them down > i'd like to check them out. apt-get install arno-iptable

[nlug] Re: Nashville Linux User Group Meeting - Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:00PM

2008-11-11 Thread Kevin Eldridge
REMINDER: Tonight is Nashville Linux User Group Meeting at 7:00pm. Directions are on the web site, listed below: http://nlug.wikispot.org/Directions On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Kevin Eldridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Nashville Linux User's Group, > > The November meeting is Tuesd

[nlug] Re: remote access options?

2008-11-11 Thread ./aal
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Don Delp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:37 AM, ./aal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Reason:Permission, >> I dont own the router I am behind. >> only open port is 5009(airport-admin). >> > > Stop stealing the neighbor's wifi and pony up

[nlug] Re: remote access options?

2008-11-11 Thread Don Delp
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:37 AM, ./aal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Reason:Permission, > I dont own the router I am behind. > only open port is 5009(airport-admin). > Stop stealing the neighbor's wifi and pony up for your own connection. :P Now that I got that out of my system... Is there a

[nlug] Re: You just have to love math...

2008-11-11 Thread Jack Coats
Only if you install the Flux Capacitor in your Tardis ;) ... Even Einstein didn't call E=MC**@ a law, just a good approximation of what he could determine. And to that extent the string theorists have proven that Einstein was wright, in that his statement was wrong, at least around the 'edges',

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread Greg Donald
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Chris Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I appreciate you taking the time to respond, but I don't like your > tone. Never have. Welcome to the club. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received thi

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread Greg Donald
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Rob Huffstedtler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Saying that vim is better than emacs isn't a troll. That's just a fact. ;-) I respectfully disagree. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this mes

[nlug] What's the best drop in Firewall App out there?

2008-11-11 Thread Chris Faulkner
I've been using pfSense for about 8 months now. before that just using my linksys WRT54g router with Tomato Firmware. Friend of mine told me about m0n0wall and I checked that one out and even though I found m0n0wall to be highly configurable, I found for the average user it could be a daunting ta

[nlug] Re: You just have to love math...

2008-11-11 Thread Chris Faulkner
:D Dave :) On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:18 AM, David R. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just turn off the banks and Governments computers. Everything else will > follow. > > Dave > > > On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 08:29 -0600, Jack Coats wrote: > > That means: turn off all computers and cell phon

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread Chris Faulkner
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Michael Chaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > Chris, chill. Your "legitimate question" contained the implication > that there is some major difference between mailing list software, and > that Google Groups was substandard in this ranking. The premise was > pre

[nlug] Re: Calendar

2008-11-11 Thread Chris Faulkner
There is a ton of Groupware apps that are really nice. PHPGroupware is one of my favorites. Also: http://extcalendar.com/ is an excellent choice as well. -- Chris Faulkner 615-653-4400 (Skype: chris.faulkner615) Linux/Unix/Windows Network Engineer BBS Enthusiast group: http://groups.google.co

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread Chris Faulkner
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Michael Chaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > Chris, chill. Your "legitimate question" contained the implication > that there is some major difference between mailing list software, and > that Google Groups was substandard in this ranking. The premise was > pre

[nlug] Re: Calendar

2008-11-11 Thread Chris Faulkner
Oops, looks like the main URL is broke: here's sourceforge pageon EXTCal: http://sourceforge.net/projects/extcal/ On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Perkins, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am wanting to set up a calendar for our Church ( > http://oursaviorlcms.org/ ). So I am looking f

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread Chris Faulkner
aal, not entirely. Google is comprised of many FreeBSD and Solaris boxes as well. :) On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM, ./aal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Chris Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I've been away from this list for quite some time and

[nlug] Re: remote access options?

2008-11-11 Thread Chris Faulkner
aal, check out Hamachi.. it's pretty nice. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:41 AM, ./aal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > btw > this is mainly to access my security system(zoneminder) and my mythtv box > if that makes a difference > > > > -- Chris Faulkner 615-653-4400 (Skype: chris.faulkner615) Linux

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread 1337ActionScriptH4xx0R
Sarcasm = troll. Vim > emacs. Redhat is outdated. Get with the times buddy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscri

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread Chris Faulkner
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Michael Chaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris, chill. Your "legitimate question" contained the implication that there is some major difference between mailing list software, and that Google Groups was substandard in this ranking. The premise was

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread Rob Huffstedtler
Saying that vim is better than emacs isn't a troll. That's just a fact. ;-) On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Michael Chaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Chris Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Wow mike, you don't know when to quit do you. I really wi

[nlug] Re: Calendar

2008-11-11 Thread Steven S. Critchfield
Let me second the idea of using zimbra. I have Zimbra running on Debian and have not had to touch it for a long time. The calendaring is great. It even supports calendars for inventory items like rooms and av equipment. Plus the email filtering and AV checking is great. Using the mobile web inter

[nlug] Re: Calendar

2008-11-11 Thread Mark J. Bailey
Jerry as far as clients, you might look at Mulberry Mail (http://www.mulberrymail.com/) - has what's reported to be one of the better clients supporting CalDAV: http://www.zimbrablog.com/blog/archives/2008/06/mulberry-the-underdog-wins.html I have used Mulberry Mail for a while AND have start

[nlug] Re: Calendar

2008-11-11 Thread ./aal
Google Calendar --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more o

[nlug] Re: Calendar

2008-11-11 Thread Steven S. Critchfield
Might also want to look at airset. Last I used them they had some nice integration with cell phones too. Critch - "Jerry Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am wanting to set up a calendar for our Church ( > http://oursaviorlcms.org/ ). So I am looking for some comments on > the > best

[nlug] Re: You just have to love math...

2008-11-11 Thread andrew mcelroy
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Andrew Farnsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Nope, it means that to continue Moore's law we will need to start making > our computer chips out of denser and denser matter. It won't be long[*] > before we need to start using Neurton stars as source material and no

[nlug] Re: Calendar

2008-11-11 Thread Arafat Mohamed
Google apps has calendar. It's free for non-profits. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Perkins, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am wanting to set up a calendar for our Church ( > http://oursaviorlcms.org/ ). So I am looking for some comments on the > best way to go about this. > > Crit

[nlug] Re: You just have to love math...

2008-11-11 Thread ./aal
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:18 AM, David R. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just turn off the banks and Governments computers. Everything else will > follow. > > Dave > "If you boot it.they will crash." --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message b

[nlug] Re: remote access options?

2008-11-11 Thread ./aal
btw this is mainly to access my security system(zoneminder) and my mythtv box if that makes a difference --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@go

[nlug] Re: remote access options?

2008-11-11 Thread ./aal
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Andrew Farnsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:43 PM, ./aal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Perkins, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > ./aal wrote: >> >> I want to access my home boxes from the wo

[nlug] Calendar

2008-11-11 Thread Perkins, Jerry
I am wanting to set up a calendar for our Church ( http://oursaviorlcms.org/ ). So I am looking for some comments on the best way to go about this. Criteria: 15 to 50 users. Users can share calendars. Has a number of group calendars Two of the groups calendars can be exported to

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread Evan Brown
TROLL!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Michael Chaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Chris Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Wow mike, you don't know when to quit do you. I really wish you'd grow > up. > > The origin

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Chaney
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Chris Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow mike, you don't know when to quit do you. I really wish you'd grow up. > The original is not a troll. I've been away from this list for quite some > time and I was wondering why NLUG decided to go with google groups

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread ./aal
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Chris Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've been away from this list for quite some time and I was wondering >>why NLUG decided to go with google groups instead >> of something more linux. errr Google is Linux .. --~--~-~--~~

[nlug] Re: You just have to love math...

2008-11-11 Thread David R. Wilson
Just turn off the banks and Governments computers. Everything else will follow. Dave On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 08:29 -0600, Jack Coats wrote: > That means: turn off all computers and cell phones and global warming > goes away? ;) > > Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > > I found the following quote on th

[nlug] Re: You just have to love math...

2008-11-11 Thread ./aal
We already have black holes in our computers for the hdd, some people even add a virtual black hole as the OS On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Andrew Farnsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Nope, it means that to continue Moore's law we will need to start making > our computer chips out of denser

[nlug] Re: remote access options?

2008-11-11 Thread DrArkaneX
You'll have to have a port forward setup or some kind of tunnel via Hamachi for this to work correctly. Reason I say Hamachi is because if you've never setup a VPN before, you'll end up with no hair after trying to configure VPN. Hamachi is for Linux as well and give that a shot. On Nov 10, 6:0

[nlug] Re: You just have to love math...

2008-11-11 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
Nope, it means that to continue Moore's law we will need to start making our computer chips out of denser and denser matter. It won't be long[*] before we need to start using Neurton stars as source material and not long after that before we will need to use the collapsed matter at the core of bla

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread DrArkaneX
Thanks again... :) I like Google Groups, I use it for a few things I got going on one of which is an 80sBBS group i'm trying to get going. Trying to get all the old Commie and Trash 80/Apple 2 folks over. Jim Selleck, Programmer for Cnet DS-2 is on my list so if you know who he is, he's an excel

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread Steven S. Critchfield
- "DrArkaneX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What happened? I mean Google Groups is nice but the old listserv was > better. What was the incentive to switch to google groups? The quick and easy of it is that we no longer have as tight a relationship with NetCentral that we use to. NetCentral

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread DrArkaneX
I can buy that answer Rob. :) Thanks! On Nov 11, 8:48 am, "Rob Huffstedtler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, the old list didn't have any fancy web based auto-archiving, so that > gave folks like Rick the fun project of building a web-based archive and > obfuscating email addresses.  It's ju

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread Rob Huffstedtler
Well, the old list didn't have any fancy web based auto-archiving, so that gave folks like Rick the fun project of building a web-based archive and obfuscating email addresses. It's just wrong that these "services" are taking good-non-paying jobs away from American programmers. I mean, Rick's got

[nlug] Re: You just have to love math...

2008-11-11 Thread DrArkaneX
Oh, be extra sure to wear the tin foil hat and next year, your coat hangers won't work anymore on your TV. Just an FYI. :) On Nov 11, 8:29 am, Jack Coats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That means: turn off all computers and cell phones and global warming > goes away? ;) > > Andrew Farnsworth wrot

[nlug] Re: You just have to love math...

2008-11-11 Thread Jack Coats
That means: turn off all computers and cell phones and global warming goes away? ;) Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > I found the following quote on the wikipedia page for the ZFS file > system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS) > > Quoting Jeff Bonwick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bonwick) > >

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread Chris Faulkner
Hey mike, I appreciate the troll message. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Michael Chaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:28 PM, DrArkaneX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What happened? I mean Google Groups is nice but the old listserv was > > better. What was the incenti

[nlug] Re: What happened to the Old List, it was better

2008-11-11 Thread Michael Chaney
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:28 PM, DrArkaneX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What happened? I mean Google Groups is nice but the old listserv was > better. What was the incentive to switch to google groups? Yeah, it was *way* better. I mean, with the old one, you would send an email to one address

[nlug] You just have to love math...

2008-11-11 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
I found the following quote on the wikipedia page for the ZFS file system ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS) Quoting Jeff Bonwick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bonwick) Although we'd all like Moore's Lawto continue forever, quantum mechanics

[nlug] Re: remote access options?

2008-11-11 Thread Andrew Farnsworth
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:43 PM, ./aal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Perkins, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > ./aal wrote: > >> I want to access my home boxes from the world. I cannot port-forward. > >> What options do you guys know for accessing servers

[nlug] Re: ssh tricks

2008-11-11 Thread Perkins, Jerry
t35t0r wrote: >> Similarly, you can use -X with ssh to do X11 forwarding. >> Using -X also sets the remote sides DISPLAY environment >> > > I've seen some apps gecko apps require -Y rather than -X, still I > think NX is the way to go for platforms that support the NX client. I believe that