RE: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP

2014-05-19 Thread Bauer, Robert
er, Robert; nmusers@globomaxnm.com<mailto:nmusers@globomaxnm.com> Subject: RE: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP Thanks, Bob. This indeed has been an interesting and thought provoking discussion. I too took another look at this. I thought, without really doing any analysis, that the directionality bias using

RE: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP

2014-05-16 Thread Bob Leary
specified DF or Cartesian product of p independent 1D t random variables with specified DF? From: owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com [mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] On Behalf Of Bauer, Robert Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:57 PM To: nmusers@globomaxnm.com Subject: RE: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP Bob

RE: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP

2014-05-15 Thread Bauer, Robert
Bob: Yes, when I was developing the code for using the Sobol method in NONMEM, I too found that using the t-distribution with Sobol/Quasi normal method resulted in biased assessments of the objective function, when I used the unmodified standard technique of generating t-samples. So, I experim

RE: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP

2014-05-15 Thread Standing Joseph (GREAT ORMOND STREET HOSPITAL FOR CHILDREN NHS FOUNDATION TRUST)
owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leary [bob.le...@certara.com] Sent: 15 May 2014 19:22 To: Emmanuel Chigutsa; Pavel Belo; nmusers@globomaxnm.com Subject: RE: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP Hi Emmanuel, While I am a strong advocate of using quasi-random rather than pseudo- random sequences for importanc

RE: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP

2014-05-15 Thread Bob Leary
that, but it sounds interesting and might be worth a try. From: Pavel Belo [mailto:non...@optonline.net] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 4:42 PM To: Bob Leary Cc: Emmanuel Chigutsa; nmusers@globomaxnm.com Subject: RE: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP Hello Bob, If you can send a NONMEM $EST statement, which

RE: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP

2014-05-15 Thread Pavel Belo
ject: Re: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP     Hi Pavel I have experienced a similar problem. In my case, the following code for IMP after SAEM (using NM7.3) greatly reduced the Monte Carlo OFV noise from variations of about +/- 60 points to variations of +/- 6 points (though still not goo

RE: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP

2014-05-15 Thread Bob Leary
hen use a 1-d pseudo-random sequence to generate the chi-square random variable. From: owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com [mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] On Behalf Of Emmanuel Chigutsa Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:03 PM To: Pavel Belo; nmusers@globomaxnm.com Subject: Re: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP

Re: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP

2014-05-15 Thread Emmanuel Chigutsa
1:01 AM >Subject: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP > > >Hello NONMEM Users, > >As SAEM does not provide a useful objective function, the manuals >recommend using IMP after SAEM.  It works well in many cases when IMP >works well.  When IMP works well, SAEM is not always needed.  SAE

RE: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP

2014-05-15 Thread Sadler, Brian
Behalf Of Pavel Belo Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:02 AM To: nmusers@globomaxnm.com Subject: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP Hello NONMEM Users, As SAEM does not provide a useful objective function, the manuals recommend using IMP after SAEM. It works well in many cases when IMP works well. When IMP

RE: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP

2014-05-15 Thread Bauer, Robert
nmus...@globomaxnm.com [mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] On Behalf Of Pavel Belo Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:02 AM To: nmusers@globomaxnm.com Subject: [NMusers] SAEM and IMP Hello NONMEM Users, As SAEM does not provide a useful objective function, the manuals recommend using IMP after SAEM. It w

[NMusers] SAEM and IMP

2014-05-15 Thread Pavel Belo
Hello NONMEM Users, As SAEM does not provide a useful objective function, the manuals recommend using IMP after SAEM. It works well in many cases when IMP works well. When IMP works well, SAEM is not always needed. SAEM is really needed when the other methods do not work well. The issue i