[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread Francis Wood
On 30 Jun 2011, at 08:15, John Dally wrote: > Here are a couple of youtube items that already fit the bill for July. > > [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHBO8CGAIeQ&feature=related > > [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKC0ZoVqfzU&NR=1 > > What's your take on the tune? Hi John, Two

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread Julia Say
On 30 Jun 2011, Francis Wood wrote: > > [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHBO8CGAIeQ&feature=related Open fingering in places > > [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKC0ZoVqfzU&NR=1 > [2] Awful, awful, awful! Might be quite good if he played it at half the speed. Otherwise agree with F

[NSP] the man with the tin ear

2011-06-30 Thread smallpipes
I agree with francis. Another mangalisation this time using the Uillean pipes as the weapon of choice. http://www.youtube.com/user/disinpass#p/a/u/0/dkK4_tcPaG8 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread Christopher.Birch
>Might be quite good if he played it at half the speed. And got his chanter remotely in tune. >Otherwise agree with >Francis. Me too. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: the man with the tin ear

2011-06-30 Thread Francis Wood
On 30 Jun 2011, at 09:22, smallpi...@machineconcepts.co.uk wrote: > I agree with francis. Another mangalisation this time using the Uillean > pipes as the weapon of choice. > http://www.youtube.com/user/disinpass#p/a/u/0/dkK4_tcPaG8 And, guessing from the size of those arms, he's using the UP

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread Tim Rolls
Or there's this version on "Celtic Pipes" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOIuVzlHFEA Tim On 30 Jun 2011, at 09:22, wrote: >> Might be quite good if he played it at half the speed. > > And got his chanter remotely in tune. > >> Otherwise agree with >> Francis. > > > Me too. > > > > To g

[NSP] Re: the man with the tin ear

2011-06-30 Thread Tim Rolls
.and would probably sound better if he didn't insist on using a corner of the Gents for recording his videos Tim On 30 Jun 2011, at 09:33, Francis Wood wrote: > > On 30 Jun 2011, at 09:22, smallpi...@machineconcepts.co.uk wrote: > >> I agree with francis. Another mangalisation this time using

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread Richard York
Yes to both, and the acoustic doesn't help at all. And a curious choice of drone, which on my headset seemed to be the subdominant. I admire anyone, though, who can honestly say they've never played too fast when confronted with a recording device, and mangled good intentions, when nervous a

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread Christopher.Birch
>And a curious choice of drone, which on my headset seemed to be the >subdominant. Yes > I admire anyone, though, who can honestly say they've never >played too >fast when confronted with a recording device, and mangled good >intentions, when nervous adrenalin cripples technique though. >Or

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread Richard York
True 'nuff! :) On 30/06/2011 10:20, christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote: <... > Could have done another take? C --- Text inserted by Panda IS 2011: This message has NOT been classified as

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread Anthony Robb
-- On Thu, 30/6/11, Francis Wood wrote: It's a lot easier to play Roxborough Castle in dotted rhythm, as is done here. I prefer it played absolutely straight, which is really very challenging. A commonly played tune which is rarely played well. I quite like this rendition here .

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread Francis Wood
Hello Anthony, I don't think we disagree. At Stuart Hardy's musical altitude, I'm sure you're right. That's a level I can only admire but never approach. On a more basic level, playing the tune with a dotted rhythm will get you through in a far less exposed manner than playing straight, which

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread cwhill
I'll tell you what worries me. Don't they listen/watch what they are posting for the public? If they don't, why not? If they do, why don't they notice that things are wrong? This guy can obviously "play" the thing - including the regulators which are tricky at the best of times. I'm guessing it's

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread Gibbons, John
Playing hornpipes in Irish sessions - the Telegraph at the top of Brixton Hill particularly- was good speed practice. But you don't have to worry about closed fingering on a flute! The main difficulty there was finding a beat long enough to snatch a breath Still panting, 20 years later. Joh

[NSP] tin ear man

2011-06-30 Thread smallpipes
on another posting to youtube he is playing the gaita(sp) and sounds better(ish) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: tin ear man

2011-06-30 Thread John Dally
Even though I think all the comments on the youtube videos that I volunteered to go over the top in the first wave are all correct and useful, I had hoped the spirit of the thing would be more encouraging. I'm looking forward to hearing and seeing videos from all those who have chime

[NSP] Re: tin ear man

2011-06-30 Thread Gibbons, John
One out of 2 isn't bad - led to a discussion on the right speed and rhythm for a rant. The only major quibble with the Carlisle one was the slurred snaps where everyone else would prefer the high notes staccato. Being polite about the other one is harder, though telling him to tune the drones

[NSP] Re: tin ear man

2011-06-30 Thread John Dally
True enough, John. I hope as many pipers as possible will be encouraged to share their performances without fear of getting the Simon Cowal treatment. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Gibbons, John <[1]j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk> wrote: One out of 2 isn't bad - led to a discu

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2011-06-30 Thread Anthony Robb
--- On Thu, 30/6/11, Francis Wood wrote: Hello Anthony, I don't think we disagree. At Stuart Hardy's musical altitude, I'm sure you're right. That's a level I can only admire but never approach. On a more basic level, playing the tune with a dotted rhythm will get you through i

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread Francis Wood
Hello again, Anthony, One question arises over the issue of absorbing a regional musical accent: which side of the hill are we talking about? If the hill is big enough, the style will be pretty different. Northumberland is a huge county, where travelling in the old days would not have been that

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2011-06-30 Thread Gibbons, John
Anthony, Francis and all, I've just tried playing Hesleyside and Roxburgh Castle at rant speed, but with hornpipey dotting, and found it very educational, and potentially very musical too. There is a rightness about playing them that way which is very convincing. But they need more work Per

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread GibbonsSoinne
A good point - but if a musical style has any merit, it's worth studying for musical reasons alone. That's why, in Ireland, so many non-Kerrymen play slides and polkas John In a message dated 30/06/2011 20:51:14 GMT Daylight Time, oatenp...@googlemail.com writes:

[NSP] Re: Tune of the Month, July, "Roxborough Castle"

2011-06-30 Thread Anthony Robb
--- On Thu, 30/6/11, Francis Wood wrote: Hello again, Anthony, One question arises over the issue of absorbing a regional musical accent: which side of the hill are we talking about? If the hill is big enough, the style will be pretty different. Northumberland is a huge county,

[NSP] Re: tin ear man

2011-06-30 Thread cwhill
Fortunately I don't suffer from X Factor syndrome so won't be posting anything myself. :) Colin Hill On 30/06/2011 17:23, John Dally wrote: Even though I think all the comments on the youtube videos that I volunteered to go over the top in the first wave are all correct and use