The location of log off and the shutdown menu are both a nuisance.
I have a 6 year old and a 4 year old that were placed in front of Windows 8
and were installing apps from the store, playing games etc without any
tuition. I showed them how to do a shutdown and that was about it.
James.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 'log out' 'button' being hidden the way it is
in Windows 8 and Server 2012 will be a nightmare for terminal server admins.
Ugh.
Phil
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Phil Randal
Infrastructure Engineer
Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT
Tel: 01432 260415 | Email:
Are you saying it will be difficult for the admins to use or difficult for the
admins as users won't be able to work it out?
The admins should be able to quickly work it out and after that it is easy.
Users have always(since remote desktop was invented) either not known how to
log off or
You can create a Shutdown/Restart/Logoff tile for the Start screen with a bit
of PowerShell:
http://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/Create-a-ShutdownRestartLog-37c8111d
-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk]
Sent: 21 November 2012 09:49
To:
Why should people have to figure it out?
Shutdown, Restart, Logoff, Sleep, Standby, Hibernate were all in one place
before, and it worked for all the hundreds of millions of people using Windows.
Why change it?
-Original Message-
From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com]
Sent:
Because of touch.
All of those things in one place means small buttons which are hard to click on
with big fingers. That's my guess on it. The log off location makes sense on
a touch device as you can easily switch users. The shutdown and restart makes
little sense at all but apparently
The users will jus disconnect rather than logging out.
Phil
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Phil Randal
Infrastructure Engineer
Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT
Tel: 01432 260415 | Email: phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk
-Original Message-
From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com]
Sent: 21
Fabulous!
But it should have been a standard feature.
Cheers,
Phil
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Phil Randal
Infrastructure Engineer
Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT
Tel: 01432 260415 | Email: phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk
-Original Message-
From: Steve Burkett
I could have one button that pops up a menu with large selection buttons - I
have that on my Windows Media Center already (under tasks) - surely that could
work?
I also don’t see how one power button is going to facilitate both shutdown and
restart.
I have Win8 running on my HP Slate 500, and
Unfortunately Shadowing was removed. Some people blame Citrix and some blame
MS but Citrix had nothing to do with the removal of Shadowing. Citrix is also
forced to use Remote Assistance for both XenApp and XenDesktop. There has been
a lot of weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth about this
I'm holding out for duability reviews on the new wave of 'Ultrabook
Convertibles' to see who has the sturdiest (read: most reliable,
trouble free) method of sending video signal to a spinning/flipping
display frame
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:43 PM, rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
The Samsungs
Yes, since server 2008 R2 (I think) shadowing had issues - mainly for
shadowing to or from multiple monitor setups.
In a Citrix environment we get by using RA as Webster said or the Shadow
Taskbar. In RDS environment, I don't know what the preferred method is, but
agree it's a big backward step.
You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it
handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just
hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings)
How enlightening! We've gotten so used to the scenario where we
Just had a look at the two together. Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO. I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X,
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the
HTC route ...
-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent
I'm digging the 8x. Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a
few days to see if the coolness wears off.
-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows
Also, consider that Windows 8 is built for devices that are never meant to
be shut off. Why give easy access to a function that we are moving beyond?
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on
Ok, this was it. I simply created the Allow Replication With Divergent
and Corrupt Partner registry key set to 1, did a forced replication and
it worked. Then returned the key to 0. Lots of posts about this
appearing now. It was a USNO server reboot that reset itself to year
2000 after the reboot.
Allow Replication With Divergent and Corrupt Partner
I think this is on my marriage certificate...
From: Dan Bartley [mailto:bartl...@corp.netcarrier.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 7:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: AD Washout
Ok, this was it. I simply created the Allow
Easy fixes for that.
1 Isolate system from its network
2 Press Power button until you have full power
2 Clear memory to remove corrupted and inaccurate data (especially the
lingeringobjects)
3 Log back in with administrative authority
The divergent and corrupt partner should now be in
IMHO these suggestions are not parsable into actions that anyone should
actually do.
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Dan Bartley
bartl...@corp.netcarrier.comwrote:
Easy fixes for that.
** **
1 Isolate system from its network
2 Press Power button until you have full power
2
Does that describe you or the spouse, and is it a good thing or a bad
thing? :)
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:25 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
*“**Allow Replication With Divergent and Corrupt Partner”*
* *
*I think this is on my marriage certificate…*
** **
** **
*From:* Dan
Lumension
On 21 November 2012 15:55, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk wrote:
I may have asked this some months back so apologies but I can’t find the
email in the archives.
** **
Our current antivirus product is up for renewal in three months and we
have an interest in being
VIPRE Business/Enterprise has a policy that enforces scanning of
inserted drives. Works well.
Don't know if actually restricts access, however - it's been a while
since I looked.
Also, their newest version just came out (we're about to implement
it), and I haven't had a chance to read the change
What'd I do?
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:03 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
agreed on the subj line change Don
** **
Kurt: After typing it, I almost clarified it but then decided to
deliberately leave that open to interpretation. J
** **
*From:* Kurt Buff
Sophos
Stefan
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Paul Hutchings
paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukwrote:
I may have asked this some months back so apologies but I can’t find the
email in the archives.
** **
Our current antivirus product is up for renewal in three months and we
have an
Check Point End Point Protection.
From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Endpoint Protection with Device Control?
Sophos
Stefan
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Paul Hutchings
Speaking of Vipre, I noticed v6 of Vipre Business Premium has added mobile
device (iOS, Android) policies.
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Endpoint Protection with Device
possible AD/GPO (win7 +), Symantec SEP, McAfee are at least a couple
that come to mind.
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Paul Hutchings
paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk wrote:
I may have asked this some months back so apologies but I can’t find the
email in the archives.
Our current antivirus
+1.
From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Endpoint Protection with Device Control?
Sophos
Stefan
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Paul Hutchings
Hit the Windows key?
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote:
OK, this may be a really stupid question, I know search works very well
but working on the desktop how do I get to my programs with no Start
button? Bing gives me now aswers.
Stefan
On Wed, Nov
You would be correct if we were talking laptops or tablets for individual users.
But I'm talking about labs of computers for students. Every 50 minutes, a new
set of users must come in and they expect to get to their files and settings.
For this reason, the simple action of logging off needs to
Hit the Start button on the keyboard, and just start typing the name of
the app.
From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC
OK, this may be a really stupid question, I know search
We'll let you know after the paternity tests are back. :)
Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/
From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: OT: RE: AD Washout
What'd I do?
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:03 AM,
Windows key sends you back to the Metro screen. There is no way other
than through the file system (still in same place) or one of the dozens
of 3rd party add ons that came out to add a start globe back in.
Best Regards,
Dan Bartley
From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent:
I know thousands of users who very rarely use the keyboard. Especially for
starting apps. Having to learn to utilize it after 17 years is something of
a pain for those unaccustomed to it.
On 21 November 2012 17:03, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
Hit the “Start” button on the keyboard,
Quote [1] As a side rant: Why can't Windows allow an administrator to
force a logoff of a locked account locally on a machine? This was
possible in XP. Starting with Vista, the only way an administrator could
locally logoff a locked machine was to force a power down.
/Quote
I believe you have to
I meant while the OS and apps are running.
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC
We've gotten so used to the scenario where we couldn't use the power button to
turn a device off that now
They introduce something called an ATX power supply at about the same time as
NT3.51. Before this the switch on the front was just mains (as was the cable on
the back of it). You tend to learn quickly about power safety when fixing a PC
with Mains in the case.
Mike
From: Sam Cayze
Here are 2 reviews that I'm currently perusing through:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2012830/windows-8-the-official-review.html
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/30/windows-8-review/
Regards,
Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology
Enterprise Directory Messaging Services
3805
Hit the windows key and use your mouse to look through all Apps.
From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC
But if you don't know the name of the Application and you would like to browse
I think what the problem is here is the default behavior of the ACPI shutdown
(aka, what the computer does when the ATX/style power button is pressed.)
Windows, by default, shuts down the PC. You can change the behavior of what
happens when you press the power button. It's in the control panel,
Perfect, I did not think about: Right-click a blank area in the Start
screen and then click the *All apps* icon at the lower right.
That's what I was looking for
Thanks
Stefan
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote:
Here are 2 reviews that I’m currently perusing
Roger, you should write a book with all those sayings you have in your
signatures. I'd buy a signed copy
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Free Windows 8?
So am I...
Painstakingly typed on my mobile phone. Please excuse any misspellings and
brevity.
On Nov 21, 2012 12:21 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
I meant while the OS and apps are running.
** **
*From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 21,
Hit the Windows key, type a single letter. Apps is the first area to come
up.
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC
Hit the windows key and use your mouse to look
Previously, right-clicking an object on the desktop always brought up a
context menu, giving you a choice of actions to take. In the Windows 8
interface (but not the desktop), right-clicking now produces a bar at the
bottom of the screen containing assorted context-sensitive items. It's a
He said what. Not who.
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:
We’ll let you know after the paternity tests are back. J
** **
** **
Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com
Figured it out: drag from bottom on my Surface
Stefan
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.comwrote:
“Previously, right-clicking an object on the desktop always brought up a
context menu, giving you a choice of actions to take. In the Windows 8
interface (but not
Since there's no hierarchy of folders anymore, what does a user do when there's
three icons called Uninstall or Help that would normally be separated
because they were under folders for App1, App2 and App3 on the start menu?
Cheers
Ken
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
[1] Log on as an administrator, open task manager, make sure show all
processes is ticked and then on the users tab right click the user and
select log off.
James.
-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 3:03 AM
To: NT
I was guessing that Remote Assistance would be the proposed alternative so
thanks for confirming it.
Sometimes the lack of reasoning provided by Microsoft is extremely
frustrating. Us logical folk are usually happy with a change if we
understand (and somewhat agree with) why it was done.
Correct. Which makes it even funnier...
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote:
He said what. Not who.
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:
We’ll let you know after the paternity tests are back. J
Carl Webster
Mark Minasi has a good one in his latest newsletter:
http://www.minasi.com/newsletters/nws1211.htm
...Tim
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC
Here are 2 reviews that I'm currently
In Lync 2013 you will be able to federate with Skype.
I believe Yammer is being merged into the SharePoint team.
Tobie
Sent from my Windows Phone
-Original Message-
From: James Hill falc...@gmail.com
Sent: 22/11/2012 06:29
To: NT System Admin Issues
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