RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread James Hill
The location of log off and the shutdown menu are both a nuisance. I have a 6 year old and a 4 year old that were placed in front of Windows 8 and were installing apps from the store, playing games etc without any tuition. I showed them how to do a shutdown and that was about it. James.

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Randal, Phil
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 'log out' 'button' being hidden the way it is in Windows 8 and Server 2012 will be a nightmare for terminal server admins. Ugh. Phil -- Phil Randal Infrastructure Engineer Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260415 | Email:

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread James Hill
Are you saying it will be difficult for the admins to use or difficult for the admins as users won't be able to work it out? The admins should be able to quickly work it out and after that it is easy. Users have always(since remote desktop was invented) either not known how to log off or

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Steve Burkett
You can create a Shutdown/Restart/Logoff tile for the Start screen with a bit of PowerShell: http://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/Create-a-ShutdownRestartLog-37c8111d -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk] Sent: 21 November 2012 09:49 To:

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Ken Schaefer
Why should people have to figure it out? Shutdown, Restart, Logoff, Sleep, Standby, Hibernate were all in one place before, and it worked for all the hundreds of millions of people using Windows. Why change it? -Original Message- From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] Sent:

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread James Hill
Because of touch. All of those things in one place means small buttons which are hard to click on with big fingers. That's my guess on it. The log off location makes sense on a touch device as you can easily switch users. The shutdown and restart makes little sense at all but apparently

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Randal, Phil
The users will jus disconnect rather than logging out. Phil -- Phil Randal Infrastructure Engineer Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260415 | Email: phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk -Original Message- From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] Sent: 21

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Randal, Phil
Fabulous! But it should have been a standard feature. Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal Infrastructure Engineer Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260415 | Email: phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk -Original Message- From: Steve Burkett

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Ken Schaefer
I could have one button that pops up a menu with large selection buttons - I have that on my Windows Media Center already (under tasks) - surely that could work? I also don’t see how one power button is going to facilitate both shutdown and restart. I have Win8 running on my HP Slate 500, and

RE: Windows Server 2012 - Remote Control has been removed!

2012-11-21 Thread Webster
Unfortunately Shadowing was removed. Some people blame Citrix and some blame MS but Citrix had nothing to do with the removal of Shadowing. Citrix is also forced to use Remote Assistance for both XenApp and XenDesktop. There has been a lot of weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth about this

Re: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Erik Goldoff
I'm holding out for duability reviews on the new wave of 'Ultrabook Convertibles' to see who has the sturdiest (read: most reliable, trouble free) method of sending video signal to a spinning/flipping display frame On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:43 PM, rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: The Samsungs

Re: Windows Server 2012 - Remote Control has been removed!

2012-11-21 Thread James Rankin
Yes, since server 2008 R2 (I think) shadowing had issues - mainly for shadowing to or from multiple monitor setups. In a Citrix environment we get by using RA as Webster said or the Shadow Taskbar. In RDS environment, I don't know what the preferred method is, but agree it's a big backward step.

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread David Lum
You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings) How enlightening! We've gotten so used to the scenario where we

RE: windows phone 8

2012-11-21 Thread Alan Davies
Just had a look at the two together. Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO. I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the HTC route ... -Original Message- From: Rod Trent

RE: windows phone 8

2012-11-21 Thread Rod Trent
I'm digging the 8x. Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off. -Original Message- From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Rod Trent
Also, consider that Windows 8 is built for devices that are never meant to be shut off. Why give easy access to a function that we are moving beyond? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on

RE: AD Washout

2012-11-21 Thread Dan Bartley
Ok, this was it. I simply created the Allow Replication With Divergent and Corrupt Partner registry key set to 1, did a forced replication and it worked. Then returned the key to 0. Lots of posts about this appearing now. It was a USNO server reboot that reset itself to year 2000 after the reboot.

RE: AD Washout

2012-11-21 Thread David Lum
Allow Replication With Divergent and Corrupt Partner I think this is on my marriage certificate... From: Dan Bartley [mailto:bartl...@corp.netcarrier.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 7:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AD Washout Ok, this was it. I simply created the Allow

RE: AD Washout

2012-11-21 Thread Dan Bartley
Easy fixes for that. 1 Isolate system from its network 2 Press Power button until you have full power 2 Clear memory to remove corrupted and inaccurate data (especially the lingeringobjects) 3 Log back in with administrative authority The divergent and corrupt partner should now be in

Re: AD Washout

2012-11-21 Thread Steve Kradel
IMHO these suggestions are not parsable into actions that anyone should actually do. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Dan Bartley bartl...@corp.netcarrier.comwrote: Easy fixes for that. ** ** 1 Isolate system from its network 2 Press Power button until you have full power 2

Re: AD Washout

2012-11-21 Thread Kurt Buff
Does that describe you or the spouse, and is it a good thing or a bad thing? :) On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:25 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: *“**Allow Replication With Divergent and Corrupt Partner”* * * *I think this is on my marriage certificate…* ** ** ** ** *From:* Dan

Re: Endpoint Protection with Device Control?

2012-11-21 Thread James Rankin
Lumension On 21 November 2012 15:55, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk wrote: I may have asked this some months back so apologies but I can’t find the email in the archives. ** ** Our current antivirus product is up for renewal in three months and we have an interest in being

Re: Endpoint Protection with Device Control?

2012-11-21 Thread Kurt Buff
VIPRE Business/Enterprise has a policy that enforces scanning of inserted drives. Works well. Don't know if actually restricts access, however - it's been a while since I looked. Also, their newest version just came out (we're about to implement it), and I haven't had a chance to read the change

Re: OT: RE: AD Washout

2012-11-21 Thread Don Ely
What'd I do? On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:03 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: agreed on the subj line change Don ** ** Kurt: After typing it, I almost clarified it but then decided to deliberately leave that open to interpretation. J ** ** *From:* Kurt Buff

Re: Endpoint Protection with Device Control?

2012-11-21 Thread Stefan Jafs
Sophos Stefan On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.ukwrote: I may have asked this some months back so apologies but I can’t find the email in the archives. ** ** Our current antivirus product is up for renewal in three months and we have an

RE: Endpoint Protection with Device Control?

2012-11-21 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
Check Point End Point Protection. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Endpoint Protection with Device Control? Sophos Stefan On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Paul Hutchings

RE: Endpoint Protection with Device Control?

2012-11-21 Thread David Lum
Speaking of Vipre, I noticed v6 of Vipre Business Premium has added mobile device (iOS, Android) policies. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Endpoint Protection with Device

Re: Endpoint Protection with Device Control?

2012-11-21 Thread Erik Goldoff
possible AD/GPO (win7 +), Symantec SEP, McAfee are at least a couple that come to mind. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Paul Hutchings paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk wrote: I may have asked this some months back so apologies but I can’t find the email in the archives. Our current antivirus

RE: Endpoint Protection with Device Control?

2012-11-21 Thread Chinnery, Paul
+1. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Endpoint Protection with Device Control? Sophos Stefan On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Paul Hutchings

Re: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Steve Ens
Hit the Windows key? On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this may be a really stupid question, I know search works very well but working on the desktop how do I get to my programs with no Start button? Bing gives me now aswers. Stefan On Wed, Nov

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Matthew W. Ross
You would be correct if we were talking laptops or tablets for individual users. But I'm talking about labs of computers for students. Every 50 minutes, a new set of users must come in and they expect to get to their files and settings. For this reason, the simple action of logging off needs to

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Rod Trent
Hit the Start button on the keyboard, and just start typing the name of the app. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC OK, this may be a really stupid question, I know search

RE: OT: RE: AD Washout

2012-11-21 Thread Webster
We'll let you know after the paternity tests are back. :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Subject: Re: OT: RE: AD Washout What'd I do? On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:03 AM,

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Dan Bartley
Windows key sends you back to the Metro screen. There is no way other than through the file system (still in same place) or one of the dozens of 3rd party add ons that came out to add a start globe back in. Best Regards, Dan Bartley From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent:

Re: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread James Rankin
I know thousands of users who very rarely use the keyboard. Especially for starting apps. Having to learn to utilize it after 17 years is something of a pain for those unaccustomed to it. On 21 November 2012 17:03, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Hit the “Start” button on the keyboard,

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread David Mazzaccaro
Quote [1] As a side rant: Why can't Windows allow an administrator to force a logoff of a locked account locally on a machine? This was possible in XP. Starting with Vista, the only way an administrator could locally logoff a locked machine was to force a power down. /Quote I believe you have to

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread David Lum
I meant while the OS and apps are running. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC We've gotten so used to the scenario where we couldn't use the power button to turn a device off that now

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Mike Hoffman
They introduce something called an ATX power supply at about the same time as NT3.51. Before this the switch on the front was just mains (as was the cable on the back of it). You tend to learn quickly about power safety when fixing a PC with Mains in the case. Mike From: Sam Cayze

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Guyer, Don
Here are 2 reviews that I'm currently perusing through: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2012830/windows-8-the-official-review.html http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/30/windows-8-review/ Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Michael B. Smith
Hit the windows key and use your mouse to look through all Apps. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC But if you don't know the name of the Application and you would like to browse

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Matthew W. Ross
I think what the problem is here is the default behavior of the ACPI shutdown (aka, what the computer does when the ATX/style power button is pressed.) Windows, by default, shuts down the PC. You can change the behavior of what happens when you press the power button. It's in the control panel,

Re: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Stefan Jafs
Perfect, I did not think about: Right-click a blank area in the Start screen and then click the *All apps* icon at the lower right. That's what I was looking for Thanks Stefan On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: Here are 2 reviews that I’m currently perusing

RE: Free Windows 8?

2012-11-21 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
Roger, you should write a book with all those sayings you have in your signatures. I'd buy a signed copy From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Free Windows 8?

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Sam Cayze
So am I... Painstakingly typed on my mobile phone. Please excuse any misspellings and brevity. On Nov 21, 2012 12:21 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: I meant while the OS and apps are running. ** ** *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 21,

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Rod Trent
Hit the Windows key, type a single letter. Apps is the first area to come up. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Hit the windows key and use your mouse to look

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Previously, right-clicking an object on the desktop always brought up a context menu, giving you a choice of actions to take. In the Windows 8 interface (but not the desktop), right-clicking now produces a bar at the bottom of the screen containing assorted context-sensitive items. It's a

Re: OT: RE: AD Washout

2012-11-21 Thread Jonathan Link
He said what. Not who. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: We’ll let you know after the paternity tests are back. J ** ** ** ** Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com

Re: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Stefan Jafs
Figured it out: drag from bottom on my Surface Stefan On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Maglinger, Paul pmaglin...@scvl.comwrote: “Previously, right-clicking an object on the desktop always brought up a context menu, giving you a choice of actions to take. In the Windows 8 interface (but not

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Ken Schaefer
Since there's no hierarchy of folders anymore, what does a user do when there's three icons called Uninstall or Help that would normally be separated because they were under folders for App1, App2 and App3 on the start menu? Cheers Ken From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread James Hill
[1] Log on as an administrator, open task manager, make sure show all processes is ticked and then on the users tab right click the user and select log off. James. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2012 3:03 AM To: NT

RE: Windows Server 2012 - Remote Control has been removed!

2012-11-21 Thread James Hill
I was guessing that Remote Assistance would be the proposed alternative so thanks for confirming it. Sometimes the lack of reasoning provided by Microsoft is extremely frustrating. Us logical folk are usually happy with a change if we understand (and somewhat agree with) why it was done.

Re: OT: RE: AD Washout

2012-11-21 Thread Kurt Buff
Correct. Which makes it even funnier... On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: He said what. Not who. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: We’ll let you know after the paternity tests are back. J Carl Webster

RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Tim Evans
Mark Minasi has a good one in his latest newsletter: http://www.minasi.com/newsletters/nws1211.htm ...Tim From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Here are 2 reviews that I'm currently

RE: Microsoft's instant messaging direction

2012-11-21 Thread Tobie Fysh
In Lync 2013 you will be able to federate with Skype. I believe Yammer is being merged into the SharePoint team. Tobie Sent from my Windows Phone -Original Message- From: James Hill falc...@gmail.com Sent: ‎22/‎11/‎2012 06:29 To: NT System Admin Issues