Re: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Tony Patton
I'd take a look at the KACE (Now Dell) Kbox systems, the last time I looked at them a couple of years ago they did all that. Available as both physical Dell boxes or VM appliances. If I remember correctly I think they had a multiple tenancy facility, but I could be mistaken. There are a few

Re: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Christopher Bodnar
Kace Altiris SCCM with SCUP One of these should fit most of your clients needs. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Rod Trent
I'd take a step back to wait and see on Altiris with yesterday's news. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again- symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013

Re: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Adam Greene
We've had good experience with Continuum, a MSP platform, albeit so far for clients smaller than 50 seats. On 1/17/2013 8:39 AM, Christopher Bodnar wrote: Kace Altiris SCCM with SCUP One of these should fit most

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Glen Johnson
Almost all the Virginia Community colleges, dumped Altiris in favor of KACE. The latest update to Altiris was a disaster for everyone that attempted it. We were not one of the brave colleges to try, but from what I heard, the system requirements were huge, a dual socket, quad core server with

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Christopher Bodnar
Interesting. I wasn't aware of that. We had MS come in and give us a presentation on SCCM 2012, and then had Symantec come in for Altiris. Got to say I was impressed by Altiris. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and

Re: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Mark Boeck
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RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread John Cook
We run Kace as a Virtual appliance (K1000) with no tweaks and it handles our approx. 250 computers with no issue. John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS,

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Rod Trent
I’m curious. What impressed you about Altiris? I ask because, from what I’ve heard, they are good presenters and good salespeople, but the product itself has really tanked since the Symantec acquisition. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday,

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Ray
In Kingman? Wow. Anyway, AZ Dept of Corrections tries to use SCCM. I'd say it's been a failure for many reasons. I work for basically an ADC subnet, and I try to manually touch every machine (about 200) on a regular basis. Obviously that's not practical for everyone. -Original

Re: hakin9.org magazine

2013-01-17 Thread Mark Boeck
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RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Rod Trent
Fixed that for you... -Original Message- From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations In Kingman? Wow. Anyway, AZ Dept of Corrections tries to use SCCM. I'd say it's been a

RE: Server room monitoring/alerts SOLVED

2013-01-17 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Just wanted to follow up on this, I took Kevin's advice and went with a full ITWatchdog system. It installed in a couple of hours and for 2 grand I have a bunch of temp/humidity/dew point monitors, water on the floor monitor, smoke/fire monitor and door open monitor. It emails calls with

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Christopher Bodnar
We didn't bring it in house for a POC, so I can't say from experience, just what we saw at the presentation. We are an SCCM 2007 shop. Some of the things that stood out about the Altiris product: Less infrastructure required Significantly easier and integrated reporting Direct views into

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Rod Trent
Did they approach it that way because you are a 2007 shop? Or, did they take 2012 into consideration for their demo? I say that because, 2012 with SP1 allows less infrastructure, views into the virtual infrastructure, patching for 3rd party apps, and client health (for Windows, Mac, Linux,

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Ray
Completely false as I'm doing it now and did it in my previous 2 jobs. If I had to wait for my domain admins to finally get it to work right we'd have been several hundred patches behind. The additional advantage, since I'm not in a nice pristine homogenous environment, is a hands on

Re: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Was that a Symantec-inspired upgrade? *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Glen Johnson gjohn...@vhcc.edu wrote: Almost all the

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Rod Trent
Well, there's a larger problem then that needs to be addressed. These things should be automated. Patching using ConfigMgr is not that tough, and getting it to work right is not that tough, either. Maybe offer your help to get it working. It'll save you a lot of time and ensure that your

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Charlie Kaiser
Everything's remote. Most clients in California, but cost of living is better here... :-) *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:53 AM

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Ziots, Edward
Shavlik if not mentioned already Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org From: joseph palmieri [mailto:jpalm...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management

RE: 86 fixes in Oracle released today

2013-01-17 Thread Ziots, Edward
Smile, surprised, I am not. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 6:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Glen Johnson
Most definitely. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations Was that a Symantec-inspired upgrade? ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Christopher Bodnar
We specifically told them we would be getting a similar MS presentation. The thing to keep in mind when comparing these 2 products from a high level is that you do get all the SCCM products in one suite now, which is fantastic (Orchestrator, VMM, etc...) but they are still separate

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Ray
Of course there's a larger problem, none of which is within my control. They've been screwing around with SCCM for several years, including using MS (Premier?) consulting. Now they're trying to get 2012 to work. Not worth the effort at this point. From: Rod Trent

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Ray
There is that. Kind of an odd town though. My kids played sports against Kingman. -Original Message- From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Rod Trent
Wow.I feel sorry for you, man. Your life could be a lot easier. Frankly, I'm not surprised MS consulting can't get it working. We were having a discussion about this last week. MCS has about as much time to ramp up on the new products as everyone else, a lot of it has to be done on their own.

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Ray
Thanks. I don't know who they've been working with. I'm not on that team. I have no idea how far along they've gotten. Remote control and imaging was their 1st priorities. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Charlie Kaiser
It is indeed an odd town. But when you're a falconer, it's one of the best places in the US to live... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17,