if you're honest about rebuilding computers with
>> Win9x on them. If you have time to do that you have time to learn something
>> new.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Gill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> *Sent:
I think there is a clear difference in what I was saying and the level of IT
staff we are dealing with. I assume that some of the more vocal dissenters
are front line administrators who are just angry to have to deal with
technology that is not MS or at least PC related. That is the way it sounds
a
staff to buy
> their own Mac¹s for work and we will support it.
>
>
> From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:32 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mac on 2003 Domain
>
> I prefer the ³if it is non-standard, it isn¹t
e and hardware to accomplish it. Given an opportunity, most users
would reinvent the wheel!!!
Murray
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
Wow this
U R RIGHT!
Murray
From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac on 2003 Domain
I prefer the "if it is non-standard, it isn't going on our network"
pol
From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac on 2003 Domain
I have one Mac here that is a company computer, and several more owned
by interns. I don't spend any amount of time with the
hool District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
Wow this is an interesting thread. It seems that some of you
The single Mac user is management! We just had to pay almost 1/3 more for
an item to get it to support the Mac. I object on the grounds of cost plus
I have to listen to the nearly continous sermons on how superior the Mac is
over the Windows OS. I also see that Mac's cost almost 2x as much a the
A lot of it is just being stuck in old ways and not wanting to move away
from the familiar...I was not too pleased at having to start supporting a
single Mac user recently, but I'm slowly starting to get around it. I was
cursing ESX Server not so long back and now I am running updates and
installin
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On top of that being forced to have staff that spend 25% of their time
> fixing things ...
If your staff is spending *that* much time fixing problems on the
Mac, maybe your management should invest in giving your staff the
ecurity+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninj
Wow this is an interesting thread. It seems that some of you have a
different IT philosophy in your company than ours. In our company, it is not
IT's job to decide what tools users need to do their jobs. It is their job
to implement and support it, or get the tools and skills needed to do so. It
is
Along the lines of insinuated Mac resiliency - its utter nonsense. I
have been supporting them for years, and they can have the same
glitchy behavior that apps do on Windows. Crash an app enough times,
and oh guess what - you need to reinstall it because it became
corrupted.
Of course, when look
I can just dream of that kind of freedom :-)
Malcolm
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 24 May, 2008 13:29
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac on 2003 Domain
One more reason I love where I am at!
From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
One more reason I love where I am at!
From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac on 2003 Domain
Of course, context is key. The use-what-you-want model is perfectly
appropriate in situations such as yours
2008 07:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac on 2003 Domain
Depends on the environment.
My last company was very win-centric. Nothing we had would ever work on
a Mac.
My current job is at a very tech savvy company. Half our employees are
SE's and many with a Unix background an
port.
The reason I just got my Mac is because we now officially allow staff to buy
their own Mac's for work and we will support it.
From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac on 2003 Domain
I prefer th
I prefer the "if it is non-standard, it isn't going on our network"
policy. Even fewer headaches that way :-)
Malcolm
From: Edwards, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 23 May, 2008 17:40
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac on 2003 Domain
Our policy is t
100% concur, but I still dig my Mac
-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac on 2003 Domain
I don't really think the pipe thing matters - you can get stuff from
Microsoft just as
t .0.1 release comes out.
Oh, and not everyone is based in the US or Europe where such fast pipes exist.
Cheers
Ken
> -Original Message-
> From: wjh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 11:47 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
e-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
Ahh good to know! I'm certainly not cutting edge on my Mac
integrations here. Luckily I only have two Mac-based designers to
support.
I'm
tures, but I always laugh
at Mac users who say that Windows users have to download so many patches.
Cheers
Ken
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 3:31 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mac on 2003
u're at and not
interested in learning any more. I guess I'm the opposite. Bring it, I say.
I love learning new stuff even though I don't always have the time for it.
--
Mike Gill
From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 3:23 PM
To: NT System Ad
ECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~
~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~
time if you're honest about rebuilding computers with
> Win9x on them. If you have time to do that you have time to learn something
> new.
>
>
>
> --
> Mike Gill
>
>
>
> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2008 9:39 AM
Hey! I said they rock!
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
Give me a break. Those are some uninformed, Nationalistic Microsoft Marching
comments from you guys. Macs work on a
fair amount of bandwidth; sign of the times I
suppose...
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac on 2003 Domain
I almost hate to say this, but the current line of Mac products rocks
nt of bandwidth; sign of the times I suppose...
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac on 2003 Domain
I almost hate to say this, but the current line of Mac products rocks.
But I did
You can actually bind the mac to your AD by using the "directory"
program located in, i think, applications\utilities. This way users can
login to the mac using AD username and automatically authenticate when
browsing to shares. You can also setup entourage to use your owa
address in account
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac on 2003 Domain
I almost hate to say this, but the current line of Mac products rocks.
But I did laugh about the updates. I thought bringing in a new Windows
machine was bad. I plugged in a brand ne
g
> new.
>
>
>
> --
> Mike Gill
>
>
>
> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2008 9:39 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
>
>
>
> I don't want my Mac user RDPing into anything
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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
I don't want my Mac user RDPing into anything. He is a big enough issue I
don't need servers crashing because of his need to use a Mac. We have one
person on staff that spends ab
Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
Ahh good to know! I'm certainly not cutting edge on my Mac
integrations here. Luckily I only have two Mac-based designers to
support.
I'm glad to hear that t
Good to know! Thanks.
-Original Message-
From: Salvador Manzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
Martin,
There is one area where you will pretty much NEED third party software - DFS
support. The DFS
y like it
> better.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:17 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
>
> It's a trap!
>
> But seriously, you might want to look i
they like it
> better.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:17 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
>
> It's a trap!
>
> But seriously, you might want
out:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/mac/help.mspx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.macwindows.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good Luck,
>>>
>>>
>>&
IS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
Forgot to add:
O
o: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
It's a trap!
But seriously, you might want to look into the software the Thursby
Software puts out. It can make AD intergration a no brainer.
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:04 PM, David Mazzaccaro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lo
;>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/mac/help.mspx
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.macwindows.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Good Luck,
>>
>>
>>
>> troy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[
or
> Macintosh). Great websites for you to check out:
>
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/mac/help.mspx
>
>
>
> http://www.macwindows.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> Good Luck,
>
>
>
> troy
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMA
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain
Forgot to add:
Outlook on the Mac is called Entourage, and you can certainly connect
to an Exchange server - but it uses IMAP for email and WebDAV for
calendaring - so keep that in mind.
For network a
Make sure that your boss knows that you have zero experience. My boss told
me to get one to test (for the shop) before we added one to the web
department. Also that there will be more time involved to bill that
deparment, etc.
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:04 AM, David Mazzaccaro <
[EMAIL PROTECTED
AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mac on 2003 Domain
Looks like we will be hiring a marketing person who wants to use a Mac.
We have a 2003 domain w/ Exchange 2003 and XP pro clients and I have zero
experience w/ Macs.
Can I have a Mac on the network and use Outlook to connect to Excha
Forgot to add:
Outlook on the Mac is called Entourage, and you can certainly connect
to an Exchange server - but it uses IMAP for email and WebDAV for
calendaring - so keep that in mind.
For network access, file sharing, etc, I recommend using the Thursby tools.
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:04 PM
It's a trap!
But seriously, you might want to look into the software the Thursby
Software puts out. It can make AD intergration a no brainer.
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:04 PM, David Mazzaccaro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looks like we will be hiring a marketing person who wants to use a Mac.
>
I should have added I do not have control of the Mac and that is how I am
forced to run things here.
Jon
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you must you must but personally if I could I would tell the Marketing
> person here is a Windows 98 box prove you
If you must you must but personally if I could I would tell the Marketing
person here is a Windows 98 box prove you can work it before spending money
on a Mac, but then I have a Mac in my domain without the Exchange, We use
Exchange but it is housed in a different domain. You will have to have
Net
Looks like we will be hiring a marketing person who wants to use a Mac.
We have a 2003 domain w/ Exchange 2003 and XP pro clients and I have
zero experience w/ Macs.
Can I have a Mac on the network and use Outlook to connect to Exchange?
What about file sharing, etc?
Where should I start to get pre
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