Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-12 Thread Kurt Buff
...@lastar.com wrote: You should provide specifics, instead of ambiguity. Ambiguity helps no one, last I checked. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OTish: Wireless

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-12 Thread Kurt Buff
I'll definitely be reading this. I have HP switches, so it won't be perfectly applicable, but its good info nonetheless. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 15:30, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote: In other words, this:

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-12 Thread Kurt Buff
[mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration And more than that will be needed, as well. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 13:44, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote: Or use Wireshark to make

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: I may have to find some outside HP help on this. I believe HP has some tech notes on wireless and VLAN security on their website. If you want an introduction to the basics of VLANs with HP switches:

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-12 Thread Kurt Buff
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 14:10, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: I may have to find some outside HP help on this.  I believe HP has some tech notes on wireless and VLAN security on their website.  If you want an

RE: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Malcolm Reitz
To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OTish: Wireless network configuration All, We've got a decent wireless network at $WORK, but I'm dissatisified with it, because it lacks good guest access. We have 18 Cisco 1240ag WAPs talking with 3 HP POE switches, which currently are in our HP 3400cl layer 3

RE: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Joe Tinney
: OTish: Wireless network configuration I wonder how you verify the security of such an arrangement? On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 19:20, Joe Tinney jtin...@lastar.com wrote: While I'm not the one that configured them, our Cisco wireless access points are configured with two SSID's: one on a VLAN

RE: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Joe Tinney
intentional wardriving, there would be very few circumstances for casual pedestrian access. -Original Message- From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OTish: Wireless network configuration Do you do

RE: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
Does this solution not have any kind of captive portal? No add-ons or anything available? Cisco loves to sell add-ons don’t they? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OTish: Wireless

RE: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Don Guyer
: Wireless network configuration All, We've got a decent wireless network at $WORK, but I'm dissatisified with it, because it lacks good guest access. We have 18 Cisco 1240ag WAPs talking with 3 HP POE switches, which currently are in our HP 3400cl layer 3 switch on our production network. There's

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Kurt Buff
Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration I wonder how you verify the security of such an arrangement? On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 19:20, Joe Tinney jtin

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Kurt Buff
: Does this solution not have any kind of captive portal? No add-ons or anything available? Cisco loves to sell add-ons don’t they? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OTish: Wireless

RE: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Joe Tinney
, June 09, 2010 2:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration Understand that - how do you verify it that it works as designed? On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 06:33, Joe Tinney jtin...@lastar.com wrote: Access control and routing is done by our core firewall and router

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Kurt Buff
segments but I haven't done any scientific pen testing. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 2:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration Understand that - how do you verify

RE: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Jason Gauthier
You use NMAP to do network scans to determine what is accessible and what isn't. -Original Message- From: Joe Tinney [mailto:jtin...@lastar.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OTish: Wireless network configuration I wasn't involved

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Phil Brutsche
Or use Wireshark to make sure you don't see traffic you shouldn't. On 6/9/2010 3:41 PM, Jason Gauthier wrote: You use NMAP to do network scans to determine what is accessible and what isn't. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Kurt Buff
:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OTish: Wireless network configuration I wasn't involved in the implementation, so I really couldn't say how it was done here. I know that I can't get to any of our 'protected' network segments but I haven't done any scientific pen testing

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Kurt Buff
And more than that will be needed, as well. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 13:44, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote: Or use Wireshark to make sure you don't see traffic you shouldn't. On 6/9/2010 3:41 PM, Jason Gauthier wrote: You use NMAP to do network scans to determine what is accessible

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
. -Original Message- From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OTish: Wireless network configuration Do you do anything to prevent random people outside your office from connecting to your guest wireless

RE: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Jason Gauthier
You should provide specifics, instead of ambiguity. Ambiguity helps no one, last I checked. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration And more than

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Kurt Buff
: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration And more than that will be needed, as well. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 13:44, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote: Or use Wireshark to make sure you don't see traffic you shouldn't

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Phil Brutsche
In other words, this: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_white_paper09186a008013159f.shtml On 6/9/2010 5:12 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: AFAIK, nmap and wireshark won't tell you as much as you need to know about arp flooding, vlan hopping and suchlike. Well, wireshark

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Jon Harris
, 2010 4:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration And more than that will be needed, as well. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 13:44, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote: Or use Wireshark to make sure you don't see traffic you shouldn't. On 6/9

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Charles Regan
should provide specifics, instead of ambiguity. Ambiguity helps no one, last I checked. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-09 Thread Jon Harris
. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration And more than that will be needed, as well. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 13:44, Phil Brutsche p

OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-08 Thread Kurt Buff
All, We've got a decent wireless network at $WORK, but I'm dissatisified with it, because it lacks good guest access. We have 18 Cisco 1240ag WAPs talking with 3 HP POE switches, which currently are in our HP 3400cl layer 3 switch on our production network. There's a single SSID across all of

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: I could just stick them all physically outside our firewall, and give the wireless users an IPSec VPN client, but I really would prefer not to do that. Why not? We already had a working VPN solution. When we added

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-08 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 16:38, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: I could just stick them all physically outside our firewall, and give the wireless users an IPSec VPN client, but I really would prefer not to do that.  

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-08 Thread Phil Brutsche
Cisco WAPs support 802.1q tagged VLANs and can provide a unique SSID per VLAN. Each SSID can use different authentication methods (WEP WPA, no auth WPA, no auth 802.1x, etc). If so desired I can provide CLI configuration examples from my 1231G access points. The 1240 series won't be any

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-08 Thread Kurt Buff
Does the Windows L2TP client (XP is what we run) support access prior to login? Our firewall does support IPSec, and should support L2TP, though I'd ahve to verify that. I would love to see the CLI info for the WAPs. I'm not knowledgeable enough on the networking to speak to 802.1x or 802.1q -

RE: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-08 Thread Joe Tinney
Admin Issues Subject: OTish: Wireless network configuration All, We've got a decent wireless network at $WORK, but I'm dissatisified with it, because it lacks good guest access. We have 18 Cisco 1240ag WAPs talking with 3 HP POE switches, which currently are in our HP 3400cl layer 3 switch

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-08 Thread Kurt Buff
configuration for us. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OTish: Wireless network configuration All, We've got a decent wireless network at $WORK, but I'm dissatisified with it, because

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-08 Thread Phil Brutsche
I've haven't done it with L2TP but I have done it with PPTP. I don't see why it would be any different - the login dialog doesn't distinguish between L2TP, PPTP, or true dial up via analog modem or ISDN. On the system login dialog there is a check box called Log on with dial-up

Re: OTish: Wireless network configuration

2010-06-08 Thread Kurt Buff
Cool. I'll have to read up on that too. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 19:38, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote: I've haven't done it with L2TP but I have done it with PPTP. I don't see why it would be any different - the login dialog doesn't distinguish between L2TP, PPTP, or true dial up via