RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-17 Thread RAY ZORZ
yes >>> "Jim Majorowicz" 8/15/2009 8:55 PM >>> Does that make us old? From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law Hell yeah! I wrote many reports u

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-17 Thread Rene de Haas
Was quite comfortable in vi. Used it for programming cobol years ago. Still remember one incident though. You use can j for going cursor-down. So I wanted to go down quite some lines and kept it pressed down, then noticing that since caps lock was on I was executing J, which is join line. Ended up

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-15 Thread Kurt Buff
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 23:03, Edward B. DREGER wrote: > JA> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:47:08 -0400 > JA> From: John Aldrich > > JA> Hey... another "joe" fan! :-) > > +1 > > > JA> Yeah... when I first started learning linux (seriously) almost a > JA> decade ago, my boss got me started using joe and

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-15 Thread Edward B. DREGER
JA> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:47:08 -0400 JA> From: John Aldrich JA> Hey... another "joe" fan! :-) +1 JA> Yeah... when I first started learning linux (seriously) almost a JA> decade ago, my boss got me started using joe and I never got around Pico in '93 or '94... then discovered "joe" a few y

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-15 Thread Edward B. DREGER
SMC> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:10:46 -0400 SMC> From: Steven M. Caesare SMC> They'd just happily continue using WordPerfect. I like LaTeX. :-P Eddy -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerc

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-15 Thread Don Ely
m Majorowicz" > *Date*: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:42:30 -0700 > *To*: NT System Admin Issues > > > *Subject*: RE: More consequences of bad IP law > >I want my PFS: Professional Write back…. > > > > *From:* David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] > *Sent:*

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-15 Thread Jim Majorowicz
Does that make us old? From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law Hell yeah! I wrote many reports using that... On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM, wrote: That was a cool app

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-14 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
4:53 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: More consequences of bad IP law > > > > I don't know I liked my Wordstar better than the WordPerfect but that might > date me a little. > > - Original Message - > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker > >

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-14 Thread Jon Harris
> *Subject:* Re: More consequences of bad IP law > > > > I don't know I liked my Wordstar better than the WordPerfect but that might > date me a little. > > - Original Message - > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > >

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread Don Ely
> *To*: NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject*: RE: More consequences of bad IP law > > I want my PFS: Professional Write back…. > > > > *From:* David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:53 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *S

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread asbzone
That was a cool app! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Jim Majorowicz" Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:42:30 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law I want my PFS: Professional Write back.. From: David W.

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 12 Aug 2009 at 11:17, Ben Schorr wrote: > SHIFT+F1 reveals formatting in Word. While this shows the inline formatting, it's not even CLOSE to "Reveal Codes" because Word docs are not just strings of characters + formatting. It doesn't show you where many of the block formatting stuff i

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 13 Aug 2009 at 11:06, michael.le...@pha.phila.gov wrote: > I still configure my favorite Linux editor (called "joe") to emulate > WordStar 2000. :-) I still have QEdit set to emulate many WS keystrokes. My first PC word processor was PC-Write; even though my Zenith Z-152 came with MS Word

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread Jim Majorowicz
I want my PFS: Professional Write back.. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law I don't know I liked my Wordstar better than the WordPerfect but that might date

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread Michael . Leone
> >>> "Ben Schorr" 8/12/2009 2:17 PM >>> > SHIFT+F1 reveals formatting in Word. Not in nearly the same way, unfortunately. It's not inline revealing, as WP ofr DOS was. I used to work for a company that wrote sales training manuals; all the data entry folks (i.e., the schlubs who had to actuall

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread Michael . Leone
"John Aldrich" wrote on 08/13/2009 11:47:08 AM: > Hey... another "joe" fan! :-) Yeah... when I first started learning linux > (seriously) almost a decade ago, my boss got me started using joe and I > never got around to learning vi/m or anything else. I can remember how to > get into/out of ed

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread John Aldrich
#x27;s about it. :-) -Original Message- From: michael.le...@pha.phila.gov [mailto:michael.le...@pha.phila.gov] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law "David W. McSpadden" wrote on 08/13/2009 07:53

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread Michael . Leone
"David W. McSpadden" wrote on 08/13/2009 07:53:00 AM: > I don't know I liked my Wordstar better than the WordPerfect but > that might date me a little. I still configure my favorite Linux editor (called "joe") to emulate WordStar 2000. :-) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a r

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Used WordStar on a Kaypro connected to a daisywheel printer for my journalism class... W00t! -sc From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law I don't know I

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread David W. McSpadden
Apparentlly my word skills are lacking and my grammar is even worse. I am going back to bed. - Original Message - From: Scot Parsons To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:20 AM Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law No, but the guy who

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread Scot Parsons
09 9:08 AM Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law Memories. I used Wordstar to write dbase III programs. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law I don't know I liked

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread David W. McSpadden
Where you in the military? That's where my wordstar/dbII - dbIV time came in. - Original Message - From: Scot Parsons To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law Memories. I used Wordstar to write

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread Scot Parsons
Memories. I used Wordstar to write dbase III programs. From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law I don't know I liked my Wordstar better than the WordPerfect but that

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-13 Thread David W. McSpadden
I don't know I liked my Wordstar better than the WordPerfect but that might date me a little. - Original Message - From: Andrew S. Baker To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law +2 -ASB

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Kurt Buff
Yeah, I expect that too, but a smaller company would have a much harder time fighting this. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:45, Rob Bonfiglio wrote: > The article I read earlier today was from InformationWeek.  They said that > investors aren't phased by this (stock was even up) because they expect thi

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Steven M. Caesare
bject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law IMNSHO WordPerfect was a superior word processor application before Microsoft's marketing agression stomped on them to get Word market share Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, & Security

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Ben Schorr
rom: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law just not the same level of detail, and not inline where you can edit the *code* as it sits ... Erik Goldoff IT Consultant

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Ben Schorr
3703 Author: The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007: http://tinyurl.com/ol4law-amazon -Original Message- From: RAY ZORZ [mailto:rz...@azcorrections.gov] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law I worked

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Erik Goldoff
sues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law SHIFT+F1 reveals formatting in Word. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr & Tower www.rolandschorr.com <http://www.rolandschorr.com/> b...@rolandschorr.com From: Tom Mille

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread RAY ZORZ
Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law You can do reveal codes in Word. It's odd but I've done it. I'd have to dig up my notes to figure out how I did that. I don't recall it being a basic setting. >&g

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Ben Schorr
ay, August 12, 2009 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law You can do reveal codes in Word. It's odd but I've done it. I'd have to dig up my notes to figure out how I did that. I don't recall it being a basic setting. >&

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Tom Miller
From:Ben Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law Actually it was a superior word processor application until Microsoft Windows 3.x ushered in the era of Windows-based applications and the first

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Ben Schorr
olandschorr.com From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law the *first* port of WP to windows was a push to GUI and WYSIWYG ... but even the Corel Suite with WP8 was better

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Ben Schorr
rew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law +2 -ASB On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Ben Schorr wrote: Actually it was a superior word processor application until Microsoft Windows

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Erik Goldoff
09 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law Actually it was a superior word processor application until Microsoft Windows 3.x ushered in the era of Windows-based applications and the first Windows versions of WordPerfect were absolutely dreadful. WordPer

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew S. Baker
osoft Outlook 2007: * > http://tinyurl.com/ol4law-amazon * > > > > *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:32 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: More consequences of bad IP law > > > > > >

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Ben Schorr
Bar Association - 01473703 Author: The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007: http://tinyurl.com/ol4law-amazon From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law IMNSHO Wo

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Erik Goldoff
Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: More consequences of bad IP law They'd just happily continue using WordPerfect. -sc On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Michael Hoffman wrote: Would the court have to hand write their documents in this case or can

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 12 Aug 2009 at 14:53, Tim Vander Kooi wrote: > They also don´t mention specifics regarding the type of XML included. As it > states here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2003_XML_formats > the underlying XML changed between Office 2003 and Office 2007. If the > lawsuit only appli

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Steven M. Caesare
2009 20:45 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law The article I read earlier today was from InformationWeek. They said that investors aren't phased by this (stock was even up) because they expect this case to get overturned at a higher court. On Wed, Au

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
gt; > > > *From:* Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 12 August 2009 20:45 > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: More consequences of bad IP law > > > > The article I read earlier today was from InformationWeek. They said that > investors ar

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
osoft would not be too concerned. TVK From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law The article I read earlier today was from InformationWeek. They said that investors aren't

RE: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Michael Hoffman
Would the court have to hand write their documents in this case or can they still use Word? Mike From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 August 2009 20:45 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law The article I read earlier today was from

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
The article I read earlier today was from InformationWeek. They said that investors aren't phased by this (stock was even up) because they expect this case to get overturned at a higher court. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > Microsoft can't sell Word anymore? > > i4i is a no

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread David W. McSpadden
Who would they sue? - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:37 PM Subject: Re: More consequences of bad IP law Is there money in that? On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote: On

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Jonathan Link
Is there money in that? On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote: > On 12 Aug 2009 at 12:16, Kurt Buff wrote: > > > Microsoft can't sell Word anymore? > > > > i4i is a notorious patent troll, and East Texas is notorious for bad > > juries in cases like this: > > > > http://news

Re: More consequences of bad IP law

2009-08-12 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 12 Aug 2009 at 12:16, Kurt Buff wrote: > Microsoft can't sell Word anymore? > > i4i is a notorious patent troll, and East Texas is notorious for bad > juries in cases like this: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8197990.stm I imagine OpenOffice.org will also take a hit here, as they