Could well be. :-)
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From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
Is this the Never Ending Story - Part II?
Cheers
Ken
-Original Message-
From: John
Is this the Never Ending Story - Part II?
Cheers
Ken
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From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 January 2010 9:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
Disregard. We have neither Fiber Channel nor Macs here in our
From: WJH [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: re: SAN solutions
Well I'm in the middle of implementing my second Apple Xsan. You can't beat
the price really. We have a few video editing stations connected via fiber a
Wow! I'll have to look into that. Can you email me off-list with the vendor
information?
Thanks!
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From: WJH [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: re: SAN solutions
Well I'm in the
Well I'm in the middle of implementing my second Apple Xsan. You can't beat
the price really. We have a few video editing stations connected via fiber and
then one windows server that hosts the backup system/tape library.
ADIC/Quantum provides the windows/linux connectivity to the Xsan. 32TB
9, 2010 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
Check to see if you can mix/match on the same shelf. In many cases you
cannot, and requires a new shelf be added to the SAN head, which may not be
cheap.
-sc
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
Yeah, I'm planning on all SATA, at least to start with. The nice thing
about the Hitachi is that it can mix/match SATA and SAS. That's
something I need to look at though, is whether you have to buy the whole
intelligence when you want to expand or if you can j
Have you looked the versions of these Dell re-sells?
Can be significantly cheaper, IME.
-sc
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
I have looked at Equallogic and EMC
like some
other vendors.
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
You should look at all the vendors out there, including software based ones,
and t
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From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SAN solutions
Here's a question...
Why is he a former CDW Rep, and who is he with now? Was he your CDW rep?
What about your new CDW rep?
it does bother
me a bit.
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
Indeed.
My own $0.02: an HDS solution may not be the best bang-for the buck. Chec
cent price, depends on what
you can live with.
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
Well, according to the sales guy, a few years ago Hitachi decided they
wanted to start making SA
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> +1 on the top to bottom need if it’s your first experience with a SAN. I
> did a lot of learning and cursing trying to do my first one wi
, January 19, 2010 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
+1 on the top to bottom need if its your first experience with a SAN. I did
a lot of learning and cursing trying to do my first one without training
(although it was a FC setup which added to my suffering I had to
Indeed.
My own $0.02: an HDS solution may not be the best bang-for the buck.
Check out Dell's EMC or EqualLogic stuff?
-sc
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
hat case, I guess. J
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From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
As long as you aren't requiring something that needs shared storage (VMware
Live motion, Windo
know it exists. I still don't know
much about it.
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
An HDS SAN w 6TB for 20K?
A TRUE HDS SAN is a tier 1 storage produc
artin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
An HDS SAN w 6TB for 20K?
A TRUE HDS SAN is a tier 1 storage product.
I can't even accurately guess, but with the needed tools, apps, etc, you are
lookin
Ok. Thanks.
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
You will want to segregate your SAN traffic as much as possible.
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr
John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
Ahh... Well, I'm not sure how well that'd work out, although if I can
have the second server set up to connect if the primary server
You will want to segregate your SAN traffic as much as possible.
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
Ahh. Well, I'm not sure how well that'd work out, although if
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
Ahh. Got a sales guy who used to work for CDW who thinks he can hook me up
with two dual-controller SANs, including on-board replication for a hair
ince I have extra fiber pairs available, I'll probably run a
dedicated channel for the primary SAN here at the main plant and figure
something out for the SAN at the D/R site later.
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:
A single iSCSI initiator would limit you to one server connected via
iSCSI at a time.
-sc
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
Ok, I'll admit to being extremely &
nect the SAN to the server
and share the files out over that server, that only one person at a time can
access the data?
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SAN solution
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st the changes!) and installation, and 3 year nbd warranty
for just over $21,000.
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: asbz...@gmail.com [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SAN solutions
+1
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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Lundy
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:01:44
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SAN solutions
Assuming these are HDS - you need to make sure and also get all the
management tools priced. That is one thing I
NexSan is a good midrange solution.
Btw, you have competing goals: *wow* products tend to come with a *wow* price.
And, for the needs that you stated earlier, I don't see the need for a ton of
features. Get a solid midrange product that will last for 3-4 years, and can
expand a little b
Hmm. Ok. Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. Make sure I'm not getting a "bait
and switch."
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SAN solutions
Assuming these a
ard replication for a hair
> over $20K. That’s for about 6 Terabytes. I’ll ask for more info in that
> case. J
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> *From:* Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 3:53 PM
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mailto:klu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 3:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SAN solutions
Hitachi (HDS) makes some awesome SANs. One of the tier 1 providers. Tier 1
price as well.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 3:45 PM, John Aldrich
wrote:
Just wondering if any of you have heard
Hitachi (HDS) makes some awesome SANs. One of the tier 1 providers. Tier 1
price as well.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 3:45 PM, John Aldrich
wrote:
> Just wondering if any of you have heard of NexSan? What about Hitachi??
> Any thoughts on either of these as a SAN vendor? I’m still trying to find
>
+1
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SAN solutions
Or add another EqualLogic to your storage pool...
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Tim Vander Kooi
wrote
t;
> Tim
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> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:01 PM
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> The problem being solved is *not *merely the replication of 150GB of dat
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> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:01 PM
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> The problem being solved is *not *merely the replication of 150GB of data.
>
> The problem, as
to it for years and years to come. I am
willing, and able, to pay for that peace of mind as I find it to be worth more
than the actual hardware over time.
Tim
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SAN
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> Well, I’m looking to off-load our storage to a dedicated storage appliance
> from our mirrored Dell servers. Current
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> Well, I’m looking to off-load our storage to a dedicated storage appliance
> from our mirrored Dell servers. Currently we are using about 150 Gi
2009 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
Well, I'm looking to off-load our storage to a dedicated storage appliance
from our mirrored Dell servers. Currently we are using about 150 Gigs of
drive space on the servers (again.mirrored for D/R purposes.)
I am
blocks in place on Fiber for faster access.
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SAN solutions
+1
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On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Jonathan Link &l
* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
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>> Probably not apples to apples but I had a quote for an 8TB EQ array for
>> well l
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> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:25 AM
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> In your previous discussions you mentioned that you're not using anywhere
> near 5 TB
jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SAN solutions
In your previous discussions you mentioned that you're not using anywhere
near 5 TB now. IIRC it was 1.5? I would suggest that you're overbuying
storage upfront.
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> *From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:23 PM
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> Probably not apples to apples but I had a qu
Yeah. the quote I got from Dell was MSRP because I'm working with a VAR and
they won't quote against themselves. J
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From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
r a 5 Mbit VPN.
John-AldrichTile-Tools
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SAN solutions
What is the budget you working with (or you believe you'll be constrained
to?)
That might help your
Probably not apples to apples but I had a quote for an 8TB EQ array for
well less than 20 a few months ago.
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
hn Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN solutions
Yeah... but I have a feeling that the Compellent solution may be lower cost. :)
I got an MSRP on an Equallogic system... $42K for a 5 Tb useable system... N
mond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
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> *Lefthand (Bought by HP) and Equalogic (bought by Dell) play in this space
> as well. *
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Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:53 PM
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Subject: RE: SAN solutions
Lefthand (Bought by HP) and Equalogic (bought by Dell) play in this space as
well.
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com
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From: John Aldrich [mailto:
Lefthand (Bought by HP) and Equalogic (bought by Dell) play in this space as
well.
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com
c - 312.731.3132
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SAN solutions
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