Re: Anyone familiar with Chatsworth server racks?

2012-03-13 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Richard McClary wrote: >> For a single-company datacenter where all people are trusted, you >> can save big money by going with 4-post open-frame racks. These are >> basically just the frame, with no doors or panels. > > I do not belie

RE: Anyone familiar with Chatsworth server racks?

2012-03-13 Thread Jeff B
t: Anyone familiar with Chatsworth server racks? Greetings! As a part of a major datacenter remodel, our wiring vendor is suggesting Chatsworth racks for our servers. We have no idea of the prices on these products. Still, aside from a huge range of options (types of enclosures, many

RE: Anyone familiar with Chatsworth server racks?

2012-03-13 Thread Richard McClary
Admin Issues Subject: Re: Anyone familiar with Chatsworth server racks? On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Richard McClary wrote: > As a part of a major datacenter remodel, our wiring vendor is suggesting > Chatsworth racks for our servers. Good. Pretty. Expensive. > We have no id

Re: Anyone familiar with Chatsworth server racks?

2012-03-13 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Richard McClary wrote: > As a part of a major datacenter remodel, our wiring vendor is suggesting > Chatsworth racks for our servers. Good. Pretty. Expensive. > We have no idea of the prices on these products. For a single-company datacenter

Re: Anyone familiar with Chatsworth server racks?

2012-03-13 Thread John Cook
Rack Solutions are a pretty good option as well John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone familiar with Chatsworth server racks

Re: Placement and spacing of server racks

2011-09-02 Thread Kurt Buff
des (including the > removal of a partial wall, more power, and a real server room cooling unit). > > We currently have three server racks.  Once this renovation project is > complete, we will be adding two fairly full server racks.  We are hoping to > have these upgrades keep the room

Re: Placement and spacing of server racks

2011-09-02 Thread James Kerr
each side). Make sure you have room > in front and back of the racks that you can easily install and remove your > equipment. Try to have adequate lighting in front and behind so you can see > what you’re doing. > > ** ** > > *From:* richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:ric

RE: Placement and spacing of server racks

2011-09-02 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Side to side isn't that important. Side to wall is, in that you need to make sure you can open your rack doors wide and also give yourself room for two people to mount equipment (one on each side). Make sure you have room in front and back of the racks that you can easily install and remove

RE: Placement and spacing of server racks

2011-09-02 Thread Jacob
And if you have any open spaces in the racks, use blanks. From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 1:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: Augusta_Kimble/as...@aspca.org Subject: Placement and spacing of server racks Greetings! Our

RE: Placement and spacing of server racks

2011-09-02 Thread Jacob
1. How closely together do you space your server racks? That is, how much space between each rack? We have six racks of equipment. no spaces between the racks. It will mess up your airflow 2. How far out from the walls to you have them (both for air flow and for rear access)? 3 feet

RE: Placement and spacing of server racks

2011-09-02 Thread Michael B. Smith
11 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Placement and spacing of server racks My racks are set side by side touching each other (3 racks + stand up APC UPS). I've got room to open the backs but the wall is probably 6" behind the open doors. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4

Re: Placement and spacing of server racks

2011-09-02 Thread Cameron
My racks are set side by side touching each other (3 racks + stand up APC UPS). I've got room to open the backs but the wall is probably 6" behind the open doors. On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:40 PM, John Aldrich wrote: > I can’t say much about my current situation as we only

RE: Placement and spacing of server racks

2011-09-02 Thread John Aldrich
I can't say much about my current situation as we only have one rack. However, at a previous position, we had a *bunch* of racks literally side-by-side jammed so close together you couldn't fit a sheet of paper between them. Of course, those racks had open bottoms with forced-air cooling

RE: Placement and spacing of server racks

2011-09-02 Thread Charlie Kaiser
org Kingman, AZ *** > -Original Message- > From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 1:21 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Cc: Augusta_Kimble/as...@aspca.org > Subject: Placement and spaci

Re: Placement and spacing of server racks

2011-09-02 Thread Kevin Lundy
) On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:21 PM, wrote: > Greetings! > > Our server room is finally getting some badly needed upgrades (including > the removal of a partial wall, more power, and a real server room cooling > unit). > > We currently have three server racks. Once this

Placement and spacing of server racks

2011-09-02 Thread RichardMcClary
Greetings! Our server room is finally getting some badly needed upgrades (including the removal of a partial wall, more power, and a real server room cooling unit). We currently have three server racks. Once this renovation project is complete, we will be adding two fairly full server racks

RE: Racks

2010-04-25 Thread RichardMcClary
aybe they resell other stuff? > > Thanks, > Brian Desmond > br...@briandesmond.com > > c ? 312.731.3132 > > From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:58 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Racks

RE: Racks

2010-04-24 Thread Brian Desmond
24, 2010 6:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Racks Just make sure your vendor doesn't throw in something like the Tripp-Lite KVM console we're stuck with! One of the 8 channels is dead. It is painfully slow to switch windows. The KB keys have a very short stroke. The Sh

RE: Racks

2010-04-24 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
stem Admin Issues Subject: Re: Racks Racksolutions.com is a great site. I personally like CPI Chatsworth racks. 2 post or 4. Cheers, On 4/24/10, Brian Desmond wrote: > I usually just order from Dell or HP (whoever the customer uses). AFAIK they > just rebrand APC. It's much easier to

Racks

2010-04-24 Thread Manpreet Chaniana
In my Datacenter we have this Guys Standardize on the Racks, KVM switches etc Racks - Rittal>>>http://www.rittal.ca/ KVM- HP is the way to go - HP IP Console Switch http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/rack-options/kvm/ index-console.html

Re: Racks

2010-04-24 Thread Harry Singh
Racksolutions.com is a great site. I personally like CPI Chatsworth racks. 2 post or 4. Cheers, On 4/24/10, Brian Desmond wrote: > I usually just order from Dell or HP (whoever the customer uses). AFAIK they > just rebrand APC. It's much easier to just lump this stuff in with the

RE: Racks

2010-04-24 Thread RichardMcClary
y were good. > > Thanks, > Brian Desmond > br...@briandesmond.com > > c - 312.731.3132 > > > -Original Message- > From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:17 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject

RE: Racks

2010-04-24 Thread Brian Desmond
Admin Issues Subject: Racks Anyone have any recommendations for a good server rack including a source? Haven't put one in in so long I've lost touch with the market, including modern features and what's available. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T

Racks

2010-04-23 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
Anyone have any recommendations for a good server rack including a source? Haven't put one in in so long I've lost touch with the market, including modern features and what's available. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

RE: HP PDU's - HP POWER DISTRIBUTION UNITS FOR server racks

2010-03-18 Thread Brian Desmond
POWER DISTRIBUTION UNITS FOR server racks FY1 We are in the process of putting new HP Power PDU's in the server racks. Any ideas or utilities needed to install or what to look for configuration ? Has someone installed them before or any kind of documentation someone has done would be higly appre

HP PDU's - HP POWER DISTRIBUTION UNITS FOR server racks

2010-03-17 Thread RITA KAUR
FY1 We are in the process of putting new HP Power PDU's in the server racks. Any ideas or utilities needed to install or what to look for configuration ? Has someone installed them before or any kind of documentation someone has done would be higly appreciated. I have inherited th

RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-17 Thread Brian Desmond
Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility. I guess my point was that even with all of the capabilities of out-of-band management, there's still

RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-17 Thread Brian Desmond
far outweighs the benefits at this kind of scale. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Faceb

RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-16 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Time to buy chuck DRAC/iLO or IP KVM. -sc From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility. Hmm.. we have 80 servers in three racks in

RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-14 Thread Damien Solodow
er 14, 2009 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility. I guess my point was that even with all of the capabilities of out-of-band management, there's still some situations that require manual intervention. We onl

RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-14 Thread Maglinger, Paul
look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility. Hmm.. we have 80 servers in three racks in a room next to me. The web servers are named "WEB01", WEB02", etc Hey chuck? Can you reset server "WEB23871"? Okay. Give me 30 minutes to wal

Re: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-14 Thread Sean Martin
ged power units. So just > log into the PDU for the rack and reset the appropriately labeled power > receptacle. > > > > *From:* Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:07 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: A

Re: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-14 Thread Kurt Buff
day, October 14, 2009 2:09 PM > Subject: RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center > facility. > > Considering those have a “virtual power button” that accomplishes the same > thing as pressing the real one, pretty unlikely unless there is a physical > p

RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-14 Thread Damien Solodow
With 30k servers I'd think you'd have to be fairly hardcore or you'd be going nuts. From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data c

Re: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-14 Thread James Kerr
Thats hardcore man! - Original Message - From: Damien Solodow To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:09 PM Subject: RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility. Considering those have a "virtual power button&

RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-14 Thread Damien Solodow
A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility. Hey chuck? Can you reset server "WEB23871? The iLO/DRAC card failed and caused the server to bluescreen." Now what? :) - Sean On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Sean Rector wrote: +1 Sean Rector, M

Re: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-14 Thread Sean Martin
en.solo...@harrison.edu] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:48 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data > center facility. > > > > Walk to it? That’s what iLo/DRAC are for.. > > > > *From:* Jacob [mail

RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-14 Thread Sean Rector
+1 Sean Rector, MCSE From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility. Walk to it? That's what iLo/DRAC are for.. From:

RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-14 Thread Damien Solodow
Walk to it? That's what iLo/DRAC are for.. From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility. Hmm.. we have 80 servers in three racks

RE: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-14 Thread Jacob
Hmm.. we have 80 servers in three racks in a room next to me. The web servers are named "WEB01", WEB02", etc.. Hey chuck? Can you reset server "WEB23871"? Okay. Give me 30 minutes to walk to it. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesda

OT: A look at the fully-packed racks inside a Facebook data center facility.

2009-10-14 Thread Sam Cayze
Facebook Now Has 30,000 Servers. 25 Terabytes of Log Data - Daily http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/10/13/facebook-now-has- 3-servers/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

2009-08-31 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Lighter and easier to manage. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks Have you found that of any benefit? Haven't yet had a reason to remove

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

2009-08-31 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Have you found that of any benefit? Haven't yet had a reason to remove ours... -sc > -Original Message- > From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:49 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: APC vs Dell

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

2009-08-31 Thread Maglinger, Paul
+1 -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks Ours seem to be split.. can remove upper or lower half independently -Original Message- From

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

2009-08-31 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Most of our servers are HP, so the choice with us was HP or APC. We went with APC because of the InfrastuXure hot-aisle containment system. Now we're not cooling the whole room, just removing the heat from the aisle. We have a smaller data center that doesn't use hot-aisle, just

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

2009-08-29 Thread Brian Desmond
min Issues Subject: RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks Ours seem to be split.. can remove upper or lower half independently -Original Message- From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC vs Dell 19inc

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

2009-08-29 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Ours seem to be split.. can remove upper or lower half independently -Original Message- From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks I just saw a couple of new Dell ones go

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

2009-08-29 Thread Brian Desmond
st 29, 2009 4:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks We just installed our first two Dell racks, replacing some older HP ones. Pluses: Split rear doors, like the versa-rail/PDU setup. Minuses: don't feel as solid as the HP's, and are deeper as a result of

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

2009-08-29 Thread Steven M. Caesare
We just installed our first two Dell racks, replacing some older HP ones. Pluses: Split rear doors, like the versa-rail/PDU setup. Minuses: don't feel as solid as the HP's, and are deeper as a result of the versa-rail. Not sure how I feel about the split side panel... -sc ---

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

2009-08-29 Thread Brian Desmond
Yep I also recall being told the Dell and HPQ racks at least are APC based. I have always had Avocent KVMs either directly or rebranded by Dell/HP and have been fairly happy with them. The newer ones that do everything over CAT5 are so much easier to deal with than earlier generations where you

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

2009-08-29 Thread RichardMcClary
+1 FWIW, HP and IBM also make nice rails for their servers, and they all fit nicely in "Dell" racks as well. (Dell in quotes because, as hinted, it is believed that APC makes them.) I'd consider bids from both Dell and APC. I do know that PDUs from TrippLite are a royal p

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

2009-08-28 Thread Matthew Bullock
The other racks that Graybar carries are probably the CPI racks. They're the bees knees. Since it's in a locked room, no need for a locking cabinet with doors and side panels, so go with the (usually) cheaper QuadraRack. The Dell Versa Rail is just for square hole racks, so they

RE: APC vs Dell 19inch racks

2009-08-28 Thread Bob Fronk
19inch racks We will be getting a 19 inch 42u rack for our current PE2950 and future Dell PowerEdge servers. It will house servers and possibly a disk array. Is that considered medium density? We already have some APC metered PDU's (AP7830's) on a 16KVA Symettra UPS. They are "0

APC vs Dell 19inch racks

2009-08-28 Thread Devin Meade
ing the cables managed. Is that worth it? I would think that we should use APC accessories with APC racks, and Dell acc's with Dell racks. Do you like APC over Dell? Other players? We will start with one rack, and possibly add to that in a year as tower servers are retired. This is in a ded

Re: Noise reducing server racks

2009-04-15 Thread Sean Martin
Oops, wrong thread! - Sean On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Sean Martin wrote: > So after all that BS, it was apparently some combination of removing the > cmos battery and resetting the bios back to default. It then allowed me to > change the integrated controller option from ata to raid, and

RE: Noise reducing server racks

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Boersma
ccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Noise reducing server racks I'd ask yourself... what is my hearing worth? -Original Message- From: Mark Boersma [mailto:ma...@triangle-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, Apri

RE: Noise reducing server racks

2009-04-15 Thread David Mazzaccaro
I'd ask yourself... what is my hearing worth? -Original Message- From: Mark Boersma [mailto:ma...@triangle-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 10:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Noise reducing server racks Thought about that but you can't just whip up so

RE: Noise reducing server racks

2009-04-15 Thread David Mazzaccaro
-Original Message- From: Mark Boersma [mailto:ma...@triangle-inc.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 10:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Noise reducing server racks Thought about that but you can't just whip up some drywall walls and a hollow core door and think tha

Re: Noise reducing server racks

2009-04-15 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
Lift with your knees? >> I’m tossing around a server rack..Have I missed any that I should consider? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~

Re: Noise reducing server racks

2009-04-14 Thread Sean Martin
So after all that BS, it was apparently some combination of removing the cmos battery and resetting the bios back to default. It then allowed me to change the integrated controller option from ata to raid, and actually retain the setting. Thanks to everyone for the assistance. P.S. I have a

RE: Noise reducing server racks

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Boersma
Issues Subject: Re: Noise reducing server racks On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Mark Boersma wrote: > Trying to determine if it's worth almost $5000 though vs. $2800 for the Xrackpro. Wow. For $5000, you might be able to just get a new room/partition built. No joke. -- Ben ~ Fin

Re: Noise reducing server racks

2009-04-14 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Mark Boersma wrote: > Trying to determine if it’s worth almost $5000 though vs. $2800 for the > Xrackpro. Wow. For $5000, you might be able to just get a new room/partition built. No joke. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource h

RE: Noise reducing server racks

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Boersma
ver tell people everything you know. From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Noise reducing server racks I'm going to extrapolate way off the deep end and speculate way beyond any sensible

RE: Noise reducing server racks

2009-04-14 Thread Joseph L. Casale
.. From: Boaz Galil [mailto:boa...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Noise reducing server racks The question why do you need it :) On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Dennis Hoefer mailto:dhoe...@c21rt.com>> wrote: We have one of the Kel

Re: Noise reducing server racks

2009-04-14 Thread Boaz Galil
The question why do you need it :) On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Dennis Hoefer wrote: > We have one of the Kell PSE24's. Not sure about the 98% claim, but I will > say it exceeded my expectations, quite impressive really, just too bad they > have to be so expensive. > > You've probably seen

re: Noise reducing server racks

2009-04-13 Thread Dennis Hoefer
We have one of the Kell PSE24's. Not sure about the 98% claim, but I will say it exceeded my expectations, quite impressive really, just too bad they have to be so expensive. You've probably seen it, but they have a demo video, at the end is a pretty accurate example of the difference with

Noise reducing server racks

2009-04-13 Thread Mark Boersma
I'm tossing around a server rack to kill the noise from my servers. I'm looking at the xrackpro2 25U and the Kellsystems PSE24. Have I missed any that I should consider? These seem to be the two big players that I've found. The Kell claims 98% noise reduction while the xrack claims 80