). I doubt
2 x SSDs are really required to get Photoshop working well.
Cheers
Ken
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2011 5:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
My answer is the recommendation from Adobe regarding
My answer is the recommendation from Adobe regarding setting up Photoshop.
There is no stipulation as to what types of volumes are being used - only
that the scratch disk(s) be a different volume from the boot (and also
assuming the install of PS). I have yet to see/hear anything different
coming
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
My answer is the recommendation from Adobe regarding setting up Photoshop.
There is no stipulation as to what types of volumes are being used - only
that the scratch disk(s) be a different volume from the boot
LOL
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ME2
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
My answer is the recommendation from Adobe regarding setting up
Photoshop.
There is no stipulation as to what types
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Our marketing guy is having problems with his PC. He says it works fine
until he fires up Photoshop to do some 3D rendering and then it goes for
awhile but crashes before it's done with an out of memory error. The
PC in question has a Pentium
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Kramer, Jack jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu wrote:
That's definitely true - but we're talking an hour or (at the most) two.
You also have to factor in product research (specs, compatibility
checking, trouble history, maybe reviews), procurement, and on-going
support.
Ok.. we *might* have found the problem... the memory settings were set to
about 900 megs max for Photoshop, but there was about 1.5 gigs available
RAM.
What we're doing is rendering a room scene. We have a room scene picture
that we use to display our carpet in and we re-use that room scene with
Bummer... we're on CS3. :-(
-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
yeah, and unless you have cs4 or cs5, you don't see any gains. those
are the only
, March 11, 2011 3:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Try some basic housekeeping first to ensure the PC is in good order and
check within Photoshop what the various scratch disk settings are its
been a while but I seem to remember that in Photoshop you specifically
that does...
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 3:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Try some basic housekeeping first to ensure the PC is in good order and
check within Photoshop what the various scratch disk
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote:
I would also look at getting 2
of the newer solid state drives one for OS and one for PS stuff.
Will two SSDs really make that much of a difference vs one?
Traditionally, I've always been told the big reason one used
That is just a setup I came up with when ever I worked with Photoshop.
Separate drive for PS and a couple of other Adobe (hog) packages. I would
go with the SSD's now just to get more speed out of an already hog-tied
system. The separate drive was also to make sure all the Adobe stuff was in
on
I don't believe there is a performance hit for having PS on your boot
volume, but ideally you should have your scratch/temp disk assigned to a
different volume from your boot.
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ME2
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote:
That is just a setup I came up with
Aggregate reply to multiple people:
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote:
Will two SSDs really make that much of a difference vs one?
That is just a setup I came up with when ever I worked with Photoshop.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
Our marketing guy is having problems with his PC. He says it works fine
until he fires up Photoshop to do some 3D rendering and then it goes for
awhile but crashes before it's done with an out of memory error. The PC in
question has a Pentium D CPU, and CPUZ says that it's a 64-bit capable
An upgraded video card may require an upgraded power supply as well.
Webster
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Subject: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Our marketing guy is having problems with his PC. He says it works fine
until he fires up Photoshop to do some 3D
, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote:
An upgraded video card may require an upgraded power supply as well.
Webster
*From:* John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
*Subject:* Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Our marketing guy is having problems with his PC. He says it works fine
until
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
An upgraded video card may require an upgraded power supply as well.
Webster
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Subject: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Our marketing guy is having problems with his PC. He says it works fine
Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
*Subject:* Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Our marketing guy is having problems with his PC. He says it works fine
until he fires up Photoshop to do some 3D rendering and then it goes for
awhile but crashes before it’s done with an “out of memory” error
Also, depending on how new Photoshop is, it may not work with Win 7 x64.
From: Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
and the os -- move to win 7 64-bit
--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl
overlooking?
From: Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
upgrade the cpu and ram -- a newer gpu would require newer power supply,
newer cpu, and new ram anyway -- always start with most economical
Ok so you guys think upgrading to 64-bit O/S is more likely to solve the
problem?
From: Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
and the os -- move to win 7 64-bit
--
Matt Cross
not work with Win 7 x64.
*From:* Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:59 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
and the os -- move to win 7 64-bit
--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2
Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Ok so you guys think upgrading to 64-bit O/S is more likely to solve the
problem?
From: Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
and the os -- move
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From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Ok so you guys think upgrading to 64-bit O/S is more likely to solve
Depends on the version. I have PS 7.0 32bit that won't install on Win 7
Utl. 64bit.
From: Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
there are no issues that I am aware of -- this coming from
with no problem on the same
computer.
From: Cameron Cooper [ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Also, depending on how new Photoshop is, it may not work with Win 7 x64.
From: Matt Cross
*Subject:* Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
there are no issues that I am aware of -- this coming from building quite a
few systems with win 7 64 bit for photoshop people
--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com
wrote:
Also
: Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
and the os -- move to win 7 64-bit
--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Matt Cross mrforkl...@gmail.com
Assuming (just for arguments sake...not planning on this right now) that I
order a new PC for the marketing guy, would you recommend a desktop or a
workstation? The last time we got something like this, we got a Dell XPS
laptop configured for gaming.
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Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
I think you need to do all 3 -- while the cost is not desirable, how much $
is being lost on productivity? You are trying to make 5-6 year old
technology still work, yet industry standard for new machines in business is
3 years.
64-bit os will only
Workstation.
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Assuming (just for arguments sake...not planning on this right now) that
I order a new PC
About any desktop you buy now would be better than what they are currently
using. The real question is what do they need? My fiance' does a lot of
3-D rendering in, and I ended up upgrading memory, video, and processor to
meet her needs.
The real question is how often does marketing person
workstation, with emphasis on cpu/ram and a moderate video card
unless he is designing games, stay away from gaming machines -- they are not
optimized to do graphic design and will blow the cost sky-high
--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:18 PM, John Aldrich
By the by, the specs on her machine: Win 7 x64, Core2 Duo 2.8 GHz, and 8 GB
RAM with an NVidea card with 1 GB of VRAM...but she does a *lot* of
rendering.
I'd venture to guess the occasional PS rendering could be happy on 4 - 6 GB
RAM...depending on the size of what's actually being rendered.
-
Thanks... that's pretty much what I figured, but it's nice to know someone
else thinks so too. :-)
-Original Message-
From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Workstation
reboots and ONLY uses Photoshop, it *almost* works, but ends up dying just
about the time it's finished.
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
About any desktop you buy now would
Honestly, you should probably start out by gathering some basic performance
stats before assuming more RAM, faster CPU, better graphics card are all
going to solve your issue. Look at proc utilization, queues, memory
utilization, paging, Disk I/O, queue length, read/write times, etc. Then
from
+1
- WJR
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 14:44, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
Honestly, you should probably start out by gathering some basic performance
stats before assuming more RAM, faster CPU, better graphics card are all
going to solve your issue. Look at proc utilization,
a 1 Gig card might be better...but I thought
I'd better ask here first. :-)
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
By the by, the specs on her machine: Win 7 x64, Core2 Duo 2.8 GHz
might be better...but I thought
I'd better ask here first. :-)
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
By the by, the specs on her machine: Win 7 x64, Core2 Duo 2.8 GHz, and 8 GB
+1
--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:47 PM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.comwrote:
+1
- WJR
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 14:44, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
Honestly, you should probably start out by gathering some basic
performance
And start with 8GB Ram.
4GB for 64bit just does not cut it IMWO.
From: Matt Cross [mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
and the os -- move to win 7 64-bit
--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:43 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
He says it works fine until he fires up Photoshop to do some
3D rendering and then it goes for awhile but crashes before it’s
done with an “out of memory” error.
Chances are, upgrading the graphics adapter will
Honestly.. with 3GB of RAM.. no.
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Ok so you guys think upgrading to 64-bit O/S is more likely to solve
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:18 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
The last time we got something like this, we got a Dell XPS
laptop configured for gaming.
configured for gaming should have been a clue there. Does your
business involve developing, testing, or playing video
, 2011 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:43 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
He says it works fine until he fires up Photoshop to do some
3D rendering and then it goes for awhile but crashes before it's
done
4:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Honestly.. with 3GB of RAM.. no.
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Ok so
Also, check out Dell's Outlet. You can find some pretty good deals in
there.
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Thanks... that's pretty much what
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:11 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
Ok. Thanks. I'll try that. I talked to the CEO and he's not thrilled with
the idea of spending $1500 or so on a new PC for the marketing guy, but if
that's what it takes, I think he'll go for it.
Don't forget
out Dell's Outlet. You can find some pretty good deals in
there.
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Thanks... that's pretty much what I figured
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:12 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
Well, I was thinking upgrade the O/S to 64-bit and then add more RAM, but I
think I'll try the suggestion of using ProcMon to see if the problem is
memory-related or if it's something else.
Sorry, I meant
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Kramer, Jack jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu wrote:
If money is a huge concern you could always build something from
components on Newegg, too.
Correction: If capital expenditures are a huge concern but time is
not, you could always build something from components on
That's definitely true - but we're talking an hour or (at the most) two.
Considering the cost difference is something like $400 I think the savings
is worth it at that point - most administrators aren't running a $200/hr
cost.
Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations,
: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Also, check out Dell's Outlet. You can find some pretty good deals in
there.
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:41 PM
To: NT
[mailto:jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
If money is a huge concern you could always build something from
components on Newegg, too.
Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations, Michigan State
Ahh... Ok. Thanks.
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:12 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
Well, I
Well, they're already paying my salary, and I *do* like to tinker, so... :-)
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Kramer
/image/graphic guys it is made them happy!
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Well, I was thinking upgrade the O/S to 64-bit and then add more RAM
: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:43 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
He says it works fine until he fires up Photoshop to do some
3D rendering and then it goes for awhile but crashes before it's
done with an out of memory error.
Chances are, upgrading
PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
Thanks... that's pretty much what I figured, but it's nice to know
someone else thinks so too. :-)
-Original Message-
From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:24 PM
To: NT
better ask here first. :-)
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com
mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Upgrade O/S or GPU?
By the by, the specs on her machine: Win 7 x64, Core2 Duo 2.8 GHz
On Thu March 10 2011, you wrote:
yeah, and unless you have cs4 or cs5, you don't see any gains. those
are the only photoshop versions that support gpu acceleration.
Thanks, guys... I didn't know if ANY version of PS would benefit from a
hotter GPU. I'll try and find out what version of PS we
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