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2009-10-14 Thread Jacob
feet. No building that tall that I know of. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail server DR ? so 'show' him how much 450GB of data is ... measure the thickness of a 1.4

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2009-10-13 Thread wjh
yeah, so the hope being this will be something that they may be willing to bend the rules over. Bill Ben Scott wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM, wjh wrote: > >> They supposedly had no money for projects/capital expenditures >> remaining this year, but then he asked for this. >>

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2009-10-13 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM, wjh wrote: >  They supposedly had no money for projects/capital expenditures > remaining this year, but then he asked for this. ??!? With a budget of zero, you can't do anything. With no change, you can expect... no change. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoin

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2009-10-13 Thread Michael B. Smith
just say "DR" and be done with it. THe business has to communicate their goals. From: Martin Blackstone [mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: mail server DR ? No money? Prayer

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2009-10-13 Thread wjh
* >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com >> <mailto:egold...@gmail.com>] >> > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:15 AM >> > To: NT System A

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2009-10-13 Thread Richard Stovall
Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail server DR ? Then again you could just point out how long it would take to print that many emails and keep your job, as well as see his face when you told him the time span.

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2009-10-13 Thread Jon Harris
>>> Charlie Kaiser >>> charl...@golden-eagle.org >>> Kingman, AZ >>> ******* >>> >>> > -Original Message- >>> > From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] >>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 13,

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2009-10-13 Thread Erik Goldoff
gt; wrote: > >> Or print out all the emails in the store... :-) >> >> *** >> Charlie Kaiser >> charl...@golden-eagle.org >> Kingman, AZ >> *** >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold

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2009-10-13 Thread Jon Harris
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] >> > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:15 AM >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > Subject: Re: mail server DR ? >> > >> > so 'show' him how much 450GB of data is ... >> > >> > measure the

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2009-10-13 Thread wjh
arl...@golden-eagle.org> > Kingman, AZ > *** > > > -Original Message- > > From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com > <mailto:egold...@gmail.com>] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:15 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues >

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2009-10-13 Thread Jon Harris
gt; > -Original Message- > > From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:15 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: mail server DR ? > > > > so 'show' him how much 450GB of data is ... > &

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2009-10-13 Thread Charlie Kaiser
System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: mail server DR ? > > so 'show' him how much 450GB of data is ... > > measure the thickness of a 1.44mb floppy diskette, and then > figure out how many floppies it would take to hold 450GB ( > (450 x 1024)/ 1.44 ) and multiply

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2009-10-13 Thread Erik Goldoff
That’s the rub…J > > > > *From:* Clayton Doige > [mailto:clayton.do...@gmail.com] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:18 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: mail server DR ? > > > > ask him how much it will cost to be down for more than 45 miutes ;-) > >

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2009-10-13 Thread Charlie Kaiser
...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** > -Original Message- > From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:50 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: mail server DR ? > > All to true, but it if you don

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2009-10-13 Thread John Cook
Mail archiving and mailbox limits are amazing tools. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud From: wjh To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Tue Oct 13 12:43:00 2009 Subject: Re: mail server DR

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2009-10-13 Thread Jon Harris
ber 13, 2009 9:43 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: mail server DR ? > > > > Yeah, I think he believes it is just a matter of having a > > server in cold storage. And I don't think he knows we are > > talking about 450 gigs of data. >

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2009-10-13 Thread Jon Harris
he knows we are talking about 450 gigs of data. > > Bill > > > Jay Dale wrote: > > That’s the rub…J > > > > *From:* Clayton Doige > [mailto:clayton.do...@gmail.com] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:18 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subj

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2009-10-13 Thread Charlie Kaiser
Message- > From: wjh [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:43 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: mail server DR ? > > Yeah, I think he believes it is just a matter of having a > server in cold storage. And I don't think he

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2009-10-13 Thread wjh
Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:18 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: mail server DR ? > > ask him how much it will cost to be down for more than 45 miutes ;-) > > 2009/10/13 Jay Dale mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com>> > > Too expensive for what he's lo

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2009-10-13 Thread Jay Dale
That's the rub...J From: Clayton Doige [mailto:clayton.do...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail server DR ? ask him how much it will cost to be down for more than 45 miutes ;-) 2009/10/13 Jay Dale Too expensive for what

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2009-10-13 Thread Sam Cayze
fsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail server DR ? Or 45 hours while he's waiting on replacement hardware.. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blac

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2009-10-13 Thread John Cook
t: Re: mail server DR ? ask him how much it will cost to be down for more than 45 miutes ;-) 2009/10/13 Jay Dale mailto:jd...@xpresstel.com>> Too expensive for what he���s looking for. Jay From: Clayton Doige [mailto:clayton.do...@gmail.com<mailto:clayton.do...@gmail.com>] Sent: Tu

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2009-10-13 Thread Clayton Doige
NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: mail server DR ? > > > > Double Take - will have you up in running in 5 minutes > > 2009/10/13 Davies,Matt > > Maybe I'm missing the point here, but 45 minute downtime can be achieved, > but how many minutes/hours of data are

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2009-10-13 Thread Jay Dale
Too expensive for what he's looking for. Jay From: Clayton Doige [mailto:clayton.do...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: mail server DR ? Double Take - will have you up in running in 5 minutes 2009/10/13 Davies,Matt Mayb

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2009-10-13 Thread Charlie Kaiser
09 6:38 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: mail server DR ? > > Hi all, > > So the VP of one of our clients wants to be able to guarantee > a 45 minute window of downtime if there is a critical failure > of their mail server. They are using exchange 2003 >

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2009-10-13 Thread Clayton Doige
cation is used. > > Matt > > -Original Message- > From: wjh [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] > Sent: 13 October 2009 14:38 > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: mail server DR ? > > Hi all, > > So the VP of one of our clients wants to be able to guarantee a 45

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2009-10-13 Thread Davies,Matt
t: 13 October 2009 14:38 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: mail server DR ? Hi all, So the VP of one of our clients wants to be able to guarantee a 45 minute window of downtime if there is a critical failure of their mail server. They are using exchange 2003 enterprise in standalone on a HP DL360 w

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2009-10-13 Thread Martin Blackstone
No money? Prayer -Original Message- From: wjh [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: mail server DR ? Hi all, So the VP of one of our clients wants to be able to guarantee a 45 minute window of downtime if there

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2009-10-13 Thread Erik Goldoff
since they already have iSCCI SAN storage, run Exchange in a VM ( Virtual Server or VMWare, whichever you can support better/cheaper ... ) so that you can always boot up a new VM on another box if the server itself crashes, even if at dimished performance from the production server, it will still b

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2009-10-13 Thread Richard Stovall
] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: mail server DR ? Hi all, So the VP of one of our clients wants to be able to guarantee a 45 minute window of downtime if there is a critical failure of their mail server. They are using exchange 2003 enterprise in

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2009-10-13 Thread Jon Harris
Look at virtualizing the Exchange server and look also at Martin Blackstone's comments about storage. That is the only way I have ever heard of that doing anything close to what you are asking to do. Jon On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM, wjh wrote: > Hi all, > > So the VP of one of our clients