[obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-10 Terurut Topik arnold
thanks kang.. sementara ini saya TA aja dulu.. belum sempat kutak kutik Excelnya :) salam mrA --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kang_ocoy_maen_saham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > UNSP kalo udah punya masih bisa hold.. kalo yg konservatif bisa mulai > dikurangi.. maksudnya kalo udah

[obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-10 Terurut Topik kang_ocoy_maen_saham
UNSP kalo udah punya masih bisa hold.. kalo yg konservatif bisa mulai dikurangi.. maksudnya kalo udah lewat 2650 ato apresiasi hingga diatas 2800an ya jadi overvalued/bisa jd sell... tp kalo di level harga skrg posisi hold masih bisa... ato bapak input aja angka preferen bapak pake model yg sama (

[obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-10 Terurut Topik arnold
artinya ini apa kang ? apakah pegang short term aja.. ? salam mrA --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kang_ocoy_maen_saham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > UNSP Growthnya lebih kenceng, tp bussiness en financial risknya lebih > besar dr LSIP dan AALI. > >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-10 Terurut Topik ardiat
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Baca bukunya Iyung Pohan kalo mau serius invest di CPO > judulnya CPO ada di Gramedia di bagian > pertanian/perkebunan. > > Antara UNSP dan SGRO gw pilih UNSP. > --- mozart Adhianto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > K

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-10 Terurut Topik Eka Suwandana
Baca bukunya Iyung Pohan kalo mau serius invest di CPO judulnya CPO ada di Gramedia di bagian pertanian/perkebunan. Antara UNSP dan SGRO gw pilih UNSP. --- mozart Adhianto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kalau UNSP dibandingkan dengan SGRO lebih prospektif > mana pak? trims > > kang_ocoy_maen_saham

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-10 Terurut Topik mozart Adhianto
Kalau UNSP dibandingkan dengan SGRO lebih prospektif mana pak? trims kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: karena masing masing saham punya kakarkteristik masing2 makanya PER Rating yg wajar beda2 oom tibum... tergantung EPS gROWTH rATE NYA, dividen yieldnya, profil risiko dan

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-09 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Iya ya saya juga lihat. Hmmm, mesti nanya ke customer servicenya nih. Ok, thanks pak Taz. Betul, data di BEI juga sering seperti itu. Regards, DE On Jan 10, 2008 2:27 PM, Tazmania Devil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Pak DE, saya cuman liat ada yg aneh di candlesticknya. > Contohnya spt ini: >

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-09 Terurut Topik Tazmania Devil
8 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient... Wah, bloombergnya salah kah? Kalau gitu mohon di share gambar yang benar, kalau ada.. Regards, DE On Jan 10, 2008 2:02 AM, Tazmania Devil <[EMAIL PROTEC

[obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-09 Terurut Topik kang_ocoy_maen_saham
karena masing masing saham punya kakarkteristik masing2 makanya PER Rating yg wajar beda2 oom tibum... tergantung EPS gROWTH rATE NYA, dividen yieldnya, profil risiko dan sustainability earningnya juga. khusus untuk perusahaan growth "e" yg dipakai di PE Rating diambil Forward E ketika semua grow

[obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-09 Terurut Topik tbumi
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kang_ocoy_maen_saham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > UNSP Growthnya lebih kenceng, tp bussiness en financial risknya lebih > besar dr LSIP dan AALI. > > > SIP : tbumi Asing lebih suka LSIP karena usaha ini dari zaman Belanda. AALI karena dari group As

[obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-09 Terurut Topik kang_ocoy_maen_saham
UNSP Growthnya lebih kenceng, tp bussiness en financial risknya lebih besar dr LSIP dan AALI. utk kalkulasinya : 3-5 year Growth Rate : 30% Dividen Yield: 2% Bussiness Risk : 1.00 Financial Risk : 1.10 Earning Visibility : 1.00 kalkulasi : Basic PE 6.6 + (10.6 + 5) + 2 = 24.2 Adjus

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-09 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Wah, bloombergnya salah kah? Kalau gitu mohon di share gambar yang benar, kalau ada.. Regards, DE On Jan 10, 2008 2:02 AM, Tazmania Devil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Kayaknya datanya banyak yg salah Pak DE, tertukar antara close & > highnya. Maaf klo mungkin saya yg salah liat. > long term b

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-09 Terurut Topik Irawan Sudarman
kalau UNSP bagaimana, kang Ocoy ? On Jan 10, 2008 7:54 AM, kang_ocoy_maen_saham < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pake Model yg sama yah coba kita input deh (model absolut PE ini > sengaja saya bagi disini soalnya relatif simpel tp lebih powerful dr > PER Model / PEG Model biasa., Model ini digunak

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-09 Terurut Topik Rei
Kang, Terima kasih! Milis OB memang banyak org2 top quality. Salam, Rei kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pake Model yg sama yah coba kita input deh (model absolut PE ini sengaja saya bagi disini soalnya relatif simpel tp lebih powerful dr PER Model / PEG Model

[obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-09 Terurut Topik kang_ocoy_maen_saham
Pake Model yg sama yah coba kita input deh (model absolut PE ini sengaja saya bagi disini soalnya relatif simpel tp lebih powerful dr PER Model / PEG Model biasa., Model ini digunakan oleh komunitas value investing di luar sana. Brokerage lokal sepengetahuan saya biasanya masih pake simpel PEG dan

[obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-09 Terurut Topik hendrik_lwww
Saham CPO masih bisa naik banyak, harga CPO naik banyak tuh. Tapi hati - hati aja, harganya udah lumayan tinggi. Analisa : Perkebunan butuh tenaga kerja yang banyak, berarti Rasio antara karyawan dengan net incomenya kecil. rata - rata 1:20jt - 1:50jt. bandingkan dengan antm 1:1,5 Miliar (Reut

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-09 Terurut Topik Tazmania Devil
ndar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient... Penggemar TA silahkan komentar. (sumber: Bloomberg) Long term bullish, short term... I dunno. Koreksi dulu? Note: USD 1

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-09 Terurut Topik Rei
Kang Ocoy, Kalo Lsip gimana? Dibanding dgn Aali? Trims!!! Salam, kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -Analyst Mode On- I Myself personally dont think the plantation were overvalued yet... Fully Valued Yes but Overvalued is yet to reach... I have this little

[obrolan-bandar] Re: plantation blon kemahalan ah, here's a simple model but sufficient...

2008-01-09 Terurut Topik kang_ocoy_maen_saham
-Analyst Mode On- I Myself personally dont think the plantation were overvalued yet... Fully Valued Yes but Overvalued is yet to reach... I have this little method i usually use that might not be strong compares to the DCF and asset analysis but it comes very handy when all i need is quick sc