Re: [Ogf-l] Re: Derivative Content and PI

2004-02-20 Thread david_shepheard
- Original Message - From: "Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wednesday 18 February 2004 03:15 pm, Mark Clover wrote: > > ...where that PI is valid, yes. The crux of my debate is in regard to the > > nature of PI and its potential to be invalid on the basis of being > > "Derivative Mater

Re: [Ogf-l] Re: Derivative Content and PI

2004-02-18 Thread Clark Peterson
> Again, I am not so sure as you. Great. Then dont PI your feat names or other items. This is so much easier than you are making it, which shows me you are at "intermediate understanding." I dont doubt that there are grey areas to the license. There are. This isnt reall one. You are just argui

[Ogf-l] Re: Derivative Content and PI

2004-02-18 Thread Mark Clover
> Listen, read the definition of "derivative works" under Title 17. I think you may be making a mistake in believing that "derivative works" as defined in Title 17 is interchangeable with "derivative material" as defined by the OGL. I would contend that Ryan (or others) may have chosen to use the

Re: [Ogf-l] Re: Derivative Content and PI

2004-02-18 Thread Damian
On Wednesday 18 February 2004 03:15 pm, Mark Clover wrote: > ...where that PI is valid, yes. The crux of my debate is in regard to the > nature of PI and its potential to be invalid on the basis of being > "Derivative Material" which I believe trumps a declaration of PI and > renders that declarat

Re: [Ogf-l] Re: Derivative Content and PI

2004-02-18 Thread HUDarklord
In a message dated 2/18/2004 5:00:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: < itself as being specific enough to warrant declaration as PI and at what point is that name, when it utilizes terms previously released as OGC and defined therein, significantly different enough from those t

[Ogf-l] Re: Derivative Content and PI

2004-02-18 Thread Mark Clover
> If "Stone Mace" is a piece of equipment (rather than a spell) then "equipment" is on the list of PI possibilities. Fair enough and I should have included that in the possible options for declaration of that particular name. > Certainly if your "Stone Mace" refers, in context, to a specific "Sto

Re: [Ogf-l] Re: Derivative Content and PI

2004-02-18 Thread HUDarklord
In a message dated 2/18/2004 3:31:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: < element" >> Why would it have to be a thematic element when "language" (which I read to mean "verbatim text"), "ideas", and "spell names" are all eligible to be declared as PI. If "Stone Mace" is a piece o

Re: [Ogf-l] Re: Derivative Content and PI

2004-02-18 Thread HUDarklord
In a message dated 2/18/2004 3:22:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: <<>Again, consider recipes. I can only do that if the recipes of which you speak are released under the OGL.  Otherwise, a less specific set of circumstances and conditions would likely apply. >> dude, I wro

[Ogf-l] Re: Derivative Content and PI

2004-02-18 Thread Mark Clover
>> It's my understanding that "derivative material" would include, IMO, a "Shadow Weapon" where a "Shadow Weapon" is a name being based on the name "Shadow" from the SRD, > There is mistake number one. The name doesn't come from the SRD. It uses a word that also happens to be in the SRD. A theore

[Ogf-l] Re: Derivative Content and PI

2004-02-18 Thread Mark Clover
> Again, consider recipes. I can only do that if the recipes of which you speak are released under the OGL. Otherwise, a less specific set of circumstances and conditions would likely apply. > The license makes derivative works, by default, open content, excluding PI. ...where that PI is valid,