Re: [oi-dev] Testing Updating packages and hipster-testing repo.

2013-10-09 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
On 10/10/13 01:55 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote: I'm a user and not a developer, but what you are saying is wrong. The hipster was set up to be the bleeding edge for developers to work. Just because you want some new features and have set up your repositories to include /hipster doesn't mean that i

Re: [oi-dev] Studio future in OI

2013-10-09 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 09/10/2013 20:45, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: ... So, one suggestion is to ship icu library to /usr/g++ (including icu-config in /usr/g++/bin). I dislike it. :) The other idea is as we currently don't have internal icu consumers just to ship it into /usr. But this is a good idea only if we are

Re: [oi-dev] sigcpp issue

2013-10-09 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 10/ 9/13 10:34 AM, Thomas Wagner wrote: Hi Alexander, [...] As always, I'm the one to blame for it. However, this particular conflict could be caused by directory permission. True, permissions differ. the pkg contents dump of pkg:/sfe/library/g++/sigcpp prints what we default to. It s

[oi-dev] Studio future in OI

2013-10-09 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
On 10/09/2013 20:28, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: I was looking at different php packages. It seems that currently php-idn upstream is dead. There are several patches (for example, used in Fedora) which allow it to be built with php 5.4. However, some icu functions were moved to intl PHP extension.

Re: [oi-dev] sigcpp issue

2013-10-09 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
On 10/09/2013 18:18, Jonathan Adams wrote: root@jadlaptop:~# pkg freeze NAME VERSION DATE COMMENT library/g++/sigcpp 2.2.10-0.151.1.5:20120805T144728Z 01 Oct 2013 21:00:41 BST None library/zlib 1.2.3 18 Sep 2013 16:36:58 BST None root

[oi-dev] Studio/GCC c++ libraries and OI future :)

2013-10-09 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
So, we have two loosely related issues to discuss. On 10/09/2013 21:34, Thomas Wagner wrote: When we can rebuild everything with GCC, I think it's a good idea to rename libraries to original names and move back to /usr. Yes, true for the very limited world of a g++ only Distro. You loose

Re: [oi-dev] sigcpp issue

2013-10-09 Thread Thomas Wagner
Hi Alexander, [...] > As always, I'm the one to blame for it. However, this particular conflict > could be caused by directory permission. True, permissions differ. the pkg contents dump of pkg:/sfe/library/g++/sigcpp prints what we default to. It should be in sync with what is in /usr. > W

Re: [oi-dev] Studio/GCC c++ libraries

2013-10-09 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
On 09/22/2013 22:32, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: Hello. I've looked at rtorrent/libtorrent and found out that g++ doesn't like our library/c++/sigcpp (coming from JDS). I suggest that if I rebuild it with g++, Studio will complain. Any suggestions? People from opencsw faced this problem and if I un

Re: [oi-dev] Net-SNMP review

2013-10-09 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
On 10/09/2013 20:30, ken mays wrote: Hello, There was a bug/RFE submitted to review and test the current Net-SNMP 5.4.1 packages in /dev and /hipster. I noted the library/network package is no longer a dependency, so just wanted to know if we would respin the Net-SNMP 5.4.1 packages and have i

[oi-dev] Net-SNMP review

2013-10-09 Thread ken mays
Hello,   There was a bug/RFE submitted to review and test the current Net-SNMP 5.4.1  packages in /dev and /hipster.   I noted the library/network package is no longer a dependency, so just wanted to know if we would respin the Net-SNMP 5.4.1 packages and have it 'field' checked and tested...   ~

Re: [oi-dev] obsoleting php 5.2 in hipster

2013-10-09 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
I was looking at different php packages. It seems that currently php-idn upstream is dead. There are several patches (for example, used in Fedora) which allow it to be built with php 5.4. However, some icu functions were moved to intl PHP extension. To enable this extension we need to recompil

Re: [oi-dev] sigcpp issue

2013-10-09 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
On 10/09/2013 18:44, Thomas Wagner wrote: Hi all, this is where in SFE package name macros have been invented for. If a distro starts supplying packages with conflicting files or even conflicting package names, then in SFE we can parametrize the package dependencies (called BuildRequires and Req

Re: [oi-dev] Testing Updating packages and hipster-testing repo.

2013-10-09 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 09/10/2013 17:05, Thomas Wagner wrote: Maybe the problems dicussed here are only a symptom and *not* the root cause. No, this discussion came up because some people seem to be confused about the role of /hipster. This post from Alaisdair Lumsden clearly described the purpose of /hipster:

Re: [oi-dev] Testing Updating packages and hipster-testing repo.

2013-10-09 Thread Thomas Wagner
Maybe the problems dicussed here are only a symptom and *not* the root cause. If you put non-coordinated, non-discussed, non-approved changes in a consolidation repository to test how things fit together, then you need not wonder how much and how bad stuff can break. The Problem is the missing

Re: [oi-dev] sigcpp issue

2013-10-09 Thread Thomas Wagner
Hi all, this is where in SFE package name macros have been invented for. If a distro starts supplying packages with conflicting files or even conflicting package names, then in SFE we can parametrize the package dependencies (called BuildRequires and Requires in the spec files). In this case we w

Re: [oi-dev] sigcpp issue

2013-10-09 Thread Jonathan Adams
root@jadlaptop:~# pkg freeze NAME VERSION DATE COMMENT library/g++/sigcpp 2.2.10-0.151.1.5:20120805T144728Z 01 Oct 2013 21:00:41 BST None library/zlib 1.2.3 18 Sep 2013 16:36:58 BST None root@jadlaptop:~# pkg info -l library/g++/sigcpp

Re: [oi-dev] Testing Updating packages and hipster-testing repo.

2013-10-09 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 09/10/2013 15:11, Nikola M. wrote: On 10/ 9/13 02:55 PM, Jonathan Adams wrote: I'm a user and not a developer, but what you are saying is wrong. The hipster was set up to be the bleeding edge for developers to work. No, I think I am still right. Things should be tested before putted in a p

Re: [oi-dev] Testing Updating packages and hipster-testing repo.

2013-10-09 Thread Nikola M.
On 10/ 9/13 02:55 PM, Jonathan Adams wrote: I'm a user and not a developer, but what you are saying is wrong. The hipster was set up to be the bleeding edge for developers to work. No, I think I am still right. Things should be tested before putted in a public repo. People can only be pleased

[oi-dev] sigcpp issue

2013-10-09 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
On 10/09/2013 16:55, Jonathan Adams wrote: You're right that flash videos don't work, and I've had problems with my X due to the upgrade, until I froze a package, and in fact had to freeze another (library/g++/sigcpp) because of a conflict with the JDS I have ... but then again this is the bleed

Re: [oi-dev] Testing Updating packages and hipster-testing repo.

2013-10-09 Thread Jonathan Adams
I'm a user and not a developer, but what you are saying is wrong. The hipster was set up to be the bleeding edge for developers to work. Just because you want some new features and have set up your repositories to include /hipster doesn't mean that it isn't a bleeding edge repository. You're rig

Re: [oi-dev] Testing Updating packages and hipster-testing repo.

2013-10-09 Thread Nikola M.
On 10/ 9/13 01:48 PM, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: I think that every change to public Hipster repo should be tested before done. And it goes for every update or group of them, so it could be tested by one more or few people, before pushing it public. How about pushing it to hipster-testing publi

Re: [oi-dev] Testing Updating packages and hipster-testing repo.

2013-10-09 Thread Udo Grabowski (IMK)
On 09/10/2013 08:55, Nikola M. wrote: On 10/ 9/13 08:37 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: On 10/09/2013 10:28, Adam Števko wrote: Hi, are there any problematic packages, which don't work with never PHP? If no, go for it. I don't know about problematic packages. However, it doesn't mean that they

Re: [oi-dev] Testing Updating packages and hipster-testing repo.

2013-10-09 Thread Nikola M.
On 10/ 9/13 09:05 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: Hello. On 10/09/2013 10:55, Nikola M. wrote: What do you think? Nikola M. I think this doesn't work - just not enough users even in /hipster. Will someone ever use /hipster-testing? For example. I've just recompiled hpijs. But I personally

Re: [oi-dev] obsoleting php 5.2 in hipster

2013-10-09 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
On 10/09/2013 12:07, Neddy, NH. Nam wrote: Related to PHP, how's about Apache and MySQL? Aren't Apache 2.2.24 and MySQL 5.1 obsolate? We don't have apache 2.4, so we'll have to preserve apache 2.2.25. As for MySQL 5.1 - I think it can be dropped when we drop python 2.4. But firstly we have to

Re: [oi-dev] obsoleting php 5.2 in hipster

2013-10-09 Thread Neddy, NH. Nam
Related to PHP, how's about Apache and MySQL? Aren't Apache 2.2.24 and MySQL 5.1 obsolate? On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: > On 10/09/2013 10:28, Adam Števko wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> are there any problematic packages, which don't work with never PHP? If >> no, go for it.

Re: [oi-dev] Testing Updating packages and hipster-testing repo.

2013-10-09 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
Hello. On 10/09/2013 10:55, Nikola M. wrote: What do you think? Nikola M. I think this doesn't work - just not enough users even in /hipster. Will someone ever use /hipster-testing? For example. I've just recompiled hpijs. But I personally don't use it. How long will it take to find so