Re: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org]

2011-08-25 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi all, We don't have brand new OOo builds, AOOo, yet. :) We don't have any AOOo users yet. After the release of AOOo we will get traditional users and new users from many parts of the world. Do we know how many AOOo users we get, what kind of users they are, what they think and how they act? No

Re: De Site is moved to apache

2011-08-25 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Great thing, have you already thought about how to coordinate the rework? IRC, Wiki? Am 08/25/2011 04:21 AM, schrieb Raphael Bircher: Hi at all I have just moved all the page of the de website from Kenai to Apache. There is still a load of rework to done, but the site is still there.

Re: [Fwd: The SCALE CFP is opening!]

2011-08-25 Thread Ian Lynch
On 25 August 2011 05:58, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Many of you may already know about this, but it seems to me like a good place for someone to give a paper on AOOo and/or for us to have a booth -- so I thought I'd pass it along for discussion. I helped organise and staff a

Re: User support: beyond forums or lists

2011-08-25 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 24.08.2011 21:50, TJ Frazier wrote: (1) With email, the questions come to you, according to your filters c., and you can read them at your convenience. With fora, you have to log in and go looking, and may find nothing. No login required. Index page View unanswered posts:

Re: User support - what do others do

2011-08-25 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Andreas, On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote: Are you the same khirano who administrates that forum? Yes, I am. I meant no projects except OpenOffice.org have Japanese forum, Japanese mail list, Japanese wiki page. Thanks, khirano

Re: Update on SVN dump load

2011-08-25 Thread Pavel Janík
Download works fine, took ~15 min via http. diff against my own import from your svn.dump is empty. Good. :-) We're making progress! I was too impatient so I did some hack work on my build system and added this new repo as another source. During the work, I had to fix the following issues:

Re: De Site is moved to apache

2011-08-25 Thread Kay Schenk
On 08/24/2011 07:21 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi at all I have just moved all the page of the de website from Kenai to Apache. There is still a load of rework to done, but the site is still there. http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/de/ Greetings Raphael Hi--yes, I saw this a day or

[migration] Making the forums and wiki cut-over

2011-08-25 Thread Terry Ellison
Sorry in advance. I've tried to put this type of content on the cwiki and it has largely been ignored by the DL, hence this email. It is a long onem so have I tried to structure it and keep to simple plain text (as the DL forwarder seems to screw up text/html markup). Since this is so long,

[WWW] Privacy Policy ( was [Fwd: Assistance with rewriting TOU/PP for Apache OpenOffice.org podling])

2011-08-25 Thread drew
On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 07:37 -0400, drew wrote: Howdy, Sending along copy of the email to the legal-discuss list. Cliff Notes version Down and dirty 1st draft of new TOU here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/website-terms-of-use-draft I'll update the draft page to

Re: Update on SVN dump load

2011-08-25 Thread Pavel Janík
Hi, The missing files and line end problems are known, please see the thread [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import yup, I read http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201108.mbox/%3c4e54ca79.3010...@gmx.net%3e a bit later. Looks like I'm not effectively able to

Re: Update on SVN dump load

2011-08-25 Thread Mathias Bauer
Am 25.08.2011 18:13, schrieb Pavel Janík: Hi, The missing files and line end problems are known, please see the thread [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import yup, I read http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201108.mbox/%3c4e54ca79.3010...@gmx.net%3e a bit

[migration] Decision making

2011-08-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Terry Ellison ter...@apache.org wrote: snip We seem to have a Catch-22 here, and this email is about how we break this and move these aspects of the project forward. My interpretation of this Catch-22 is that whilst our current interactions on the DL are a

RE: [migration] Making the forums and wiki cut-over

2011-08-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Just one tiny clean-up. Based on what you say, I believe the goal is to cut over forums in 7 days and the wiki in 14 days. (I think there is a small typo in the second CUT-OVER GOAL.) - Dennis Thanks for all of this Terry. You've managed to juggle a complex number of considerations and you

Re: Update on SVN dump load

2011-08-25 Thread eric b
Hi, I'm currently downloading the sources, and I'll give it a try on Mac OS X ( 10.4 ) and Linux ( X86_64 later tonight). I got two Virtualboxes running Windows too, but later. Where can we put the first instructions / workaround for probable brakeages ? On the wiki ? Regards, Eric

RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org]

2011-08-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
This should be at the User support: beyond forums or lists thread but I hesitate to confuse other ways of reading this list that don't like title changes (and I am using reply to have previous material attached - I might try forward instead on some occasion). I have been running a filter on

Re: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org]

2011-08-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: This should be at the User support: beyond forums or lists thread but I hesitate to confuse other ways of reading this list that don't like title changes (and I am using reply to have previous material attached

Re: [migration] Decision making

2011-08-25 Thread Donald Whytock
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: But again, objections must be from committers, backed with technical arguments and the willingness to implement alternatives. The Apache voting policy page you linked agrees that binding votes are from committers, and that all

Re: [migration] Decision making

2011-08-25 Thread Andy Brown
Donald Whytock wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: But again, objections must be from committers, backed with technical arguments and the willingness to implement alternatives. The Apache voting policy page you linked agrees that binding votes are from

Re: [migration] Decision making

2011-08-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: But again, objections must be from committers, backed with technical arguments and the willingness to implement alternatives. The Apache voting policy

RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org]

2011-08-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I found a way to track individual Stack Exchange questions without having to poll them myself to detect follow-ups and other answers. It is a bit clumsy. But it promises to be easy, and it is particularly easy to stop tracking a question. Every question (topic) on StackExchange has its own

Re: Update on SVN dump load

2011-08-25 Thread eric b
As promised, an update : I verified all the issues Pavel encountered in dictionnaries and readlincense_oo , excepted that I'm stuck (means build broken) in comphelper, due to a too old gnumake (3.80, need : 3.81) So we can consider the build is definitively broken on Mac OS X 10.4. Will

Re: Update on SVN dump load

2011-08-25 Thread Michael Stahl
On 25.08.2011 22:17, eric b wrote: As promised, an update : I verified all the issues Pavel encountered in dictionnaries and readlincense_oo , excepted that I'm stuck (means build broken) in comphelper, due to a too old gnumake (3.80, need : 3.81) So we can consider the build is

Re: Update on SVN dump load

2011-08-25 Thread Michael Stahl
On 25.08.2011 23:08, Michael Stahl wrote: On 25.08.2011 22:17, eric b wrote: As promised, an update : I verified all the issues Pavel encountered in dictionnaries and readlincense_oo , excepted that I'm stuck (means build broken) in comphelper, due to a too old gnumake (3.80, need :

Re: [www][wiki] Web, Wiki, and Participation (was RE: Making mailing lists useful ...)

2011-08-25 Thread Kay Schenk
Hi-- I think I deleted lot of conversations in this thread and that is it a bit old, but see below... On 08/12/2011 10:25 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 12, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: +1 on I think the value of opening up that list to a broader range of contributors is

[Introduction] Getting involved with Apache OOo

2011-08-25 Thread Matt Richards
Greetings, I have been using OOo for quite some time (its been my fall back if I'm not able to use Microsoft's suite [mostly on Linux and Mac]) and am very pleased seeing it become an Apache project. While, I've not really been part of the OOo community until I heard it has been accepted into the

Re: [www][wiki] Web, Wiki, and Participation (was RE: Making mailing lists useful ...)

2011-08-25 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 25, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Hi-- I think I deleted lot of conversations in this thread and that is it a bit old, but see below... On 08/12/2011 10:25 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 12, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: +1 on I think the value of

Re: [www][wiki] Web, Wiki, and Participation (was RE: Making mailing lists useful ...)

2011-08-25 Thread Kay Schenk
On 08/25/2011 02:56 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 25, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Hi-- I think I deleted lot of conversations in this thread and that is it a bit old, but see below... On 08/12/2011 10:25 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 12, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton

Re: [www][wiki] Web, Wiki, and Participation (was RE: Making mailing lists useful ...)

2011-08-25 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 25, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 08/25/2011 02:56 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 25, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Hi-- I think I deleted lot of conversations in this thread and that is it a bit old, but see below... On 08/12/2011 10:25 AM, Dave Fisher

Re: [Introduction] Getting involved with Apache OOo

2011-08-25 Thread Andy Brown
Matt Richards wrote: Greetings, I have been using OOo for quite some time (its been my fall back if I'm not able to use Microsoft's suite [mostly on Linux and Mac]) and am very pleased seeing it become an Apache project. While, I've not really been part of the OOo community until I heard it has

Re: [www][wiki] Web, Wiki, and Participation (was RE: Making mailing lists useful ...)

2011-08-25 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 25, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 08/25/2011 02:56 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 25, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Hi-- I think I deleted lot of conversations in this thread and

OOo Bugzilla data import available for review

2011-08-25 Thread Mark Thomas
All, The OOo Bugzilla data export provided to the ASF infrastructure team has been imported into a test instance[1] for your review. Please review the import and report any *show stopper* issues to the infrastructure team via the Jira ticket created for this import. [2] Assuming no show stopper

Re: OOo Bugzilla data import available for review

2011-08-25 Thread Andy Brown
Thanks for doing this for us. Mark Thomas wrote: 3. All usernames and passwords remain unchanged with one exception: users with system administration rights have been removed from the admin group. Access to this group will be limited to members of the ASF infrastructure team (new volunteers

Re: OOo Bugzilla data import available for review

2011-08-25 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 26.08.11 01:24, schrieb Andy Brown: Thanks for doing this for us. Mark Thomas wrote: 3. All usernames and passwords remain unchanged with one exception: users with system administration rights have been removed from the admin group. Access to this group will be limited to members of the

Re: OOo Bugzilla data import available for review

2011-08-25 Thread TJ Frazier
On 8/25/2011 19:24, Andy Brown wrote: Thanks for doing this for us. Mark Thomas wrote: 3. All usernames and passwords remain unchanged with one exception: users with system administration rights have been removed from the admin group. Access to this group will be limited to members of the

Re: OOo Bugzilla data import available for review

2011-08-25 Thread Andy Brown
TJ Frazier wrote: On 8/25/2011 19:24, Andy Brown wrote: Thanks for doing this for us. Mark Thomas wrote: 3. All usernames and passwords remain unchanged with one exception: users with system administration rights have been removed from the admin group. Access to this group will be limited

Re: OOo Bugzilla data import available for review

2011-08-25 Thread TJ Frazier
On 8/25/2011 18:54, Mark Thomas wrote: snip 3. All usernames and passwords remain unchanged with one exception: users with system administration rights have been removed from the admin group. Access to this group will be limited to members of the ASF infrastructure team (new volunteers always

Re: OOo Bugzilla data import available for review

2011-08-25 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Thanks Mark and everybody else involved! I do prefer this approach than the stepped transition that was planned previously. Here we know what we got and people don't have to spend time finishing the migration in the background. It does look sane: attachments are still there, which is the main

RE: Update on SVN dump load

2011-08-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks joe, I already had a laborious additional SVN update stage running when I saw this message. So about 18 hours total into this, when it interrupted once again, I started a new folder, this time on my local hard drive (I had been updating onto a shared folder of a file server), and did a

Re: Update on SVN dump load

2011-08-25 Thread Joe Schaefer
The plan is to do the load tomorrow, assuming our prior svn upgrade plans go well. From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org To: 'Joe Schaefer' joe_schae...@yahoo.com; ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:23 PM Subject: RE:

Re: Update on SVN dump load

2011-08-25 Thread Daniel Shahaf
wrt complete checkout, some use of svn checkout --depth=immediates svn up dir --set-depth=immediates svn up dir --set-depth=infinity might help with network issues. (it breaks the checkout into smaller transactions) Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 20:23:31 -0700: Thanks joe,

Re: Update on SVN dump load

2011-08-25 Thread eric b
Hi, For the record, the second part : I didn't use --with-lang= ... so I didn't hit th l10n breakage. Current status : breaks at packaging due to some other missing files. I didn't investigate more (coffee first .. ) but imho, it shouldn't be an important issue. Regards, Eric The log

[build completed] Re: Update on SVN dump load

2011-08-25 Thread eric b
Hi, Last part : was 2 files missing in filter/source/xslt/odf2xhtml/ export/common Copy them at the right location + deliver in filter solved the issue. Packaging is successfull, and I got OpenOffice.org 3.4.(0 ?) installed. Conclusions : - the build is possible and easy on Mac OS X 10.4,