Re: Legacy openoffice.org email addresses in the legacy website

Rob Weir ha scritto: 7luc...@openoffice.org This is my own OOo email address, but it shouldn't exist anymore since I've canceled my OOo account at least 3 years ago. How can I know if that account (that had rather large admin rights for several projects) is still somehow and *somewhere* "al

Re: Microsoft Tools for Windows Builds

Hallo Dennis, I am not sure that I see the problem here (I do not read the libre-office mailing list but maybe I should). The configure script already detects which compiler to use. This works well on my Windows machine with cygwin and VC++ and the MS SDKs. The only problem I have encounte

Re: [CODE] configure.in: yes/no messages swapped in --enable-copyleft

Hi Andrea, good point but please keep in mind that this is a temporary workaround. Much work is currently being done to remove the category x license code. When that is done we need a different switch to make the category b license code (eg MPL) optional. Therefore the --enable-copyleft sw

Re: [CODE] issue 118604 - IP clearance: Remove dmake source

On 11/18/11 3:52 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 11/18/11 3:42 PM, Andre Fischer wrote: Hi all, finished the work on removing the local dmake source code. dmake can now come from one of three different locations: 1. Pre-installed executable in the system search path. This is detected automatical

Re: Legacy openoffice.org email addresses in the legacy website

Rob Weir schrieb: On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Am 21.11.11 00:22, schrieb Rob Weir: [..] I selected a list of mail adress who are no user adress for sure. But I propose to make a wiki page about the mail Alias. Samething like Old mail adress |New mail adr

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

Hi *, On 19.11.2011 21:40, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Pedro, Why does bringing in a CWS require creating diffs? You know what, I bet we're not the First Ones in the History of the Universe to use branches in SVN. So rather than fill

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Armin Le Grand wrote: >        Hi *, > > On 19.11.2011 21:40, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton >>  wrote: >>> >>> Pedro, >>> >>> Why does bringing in a CWS require creating diffs? >>> >> >> You know what, I bet we're not th

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

Shane, the reference to the Apache Project is required here, agreed. We are reworking the content of the pages to make the message more clear, your guidance on how to point to Apache OpenOffice project is appreciated here, Martin On 11/21/11 2:19 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: Note that the listed

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

On 2011-11-21 6:46 AM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: Shane, the reference to the Apache Project is required here, agreed. We are reworking the content of the pages to make the message more clear, your guidance on how to point to Apache OpenOffice project is appreciated here, Martin This is a good

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Armin Le Grand wrote: >>Hi *, >> >> On 19.11.2011 21:40, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton >>> wrote: Pedro, Why does bringing in a CWS require creating diffs? >>>

Re: [OT] Re: [WWW][Policy] Participate! - Rewriting contributing.openoffice.org

On 2011-11-21 1:35 AM, eric b wrote: ... So why do you protect people like you do with Hagar Delest ? Refuse other people to know all the people working with them is exactly the beginning of such Monarchy : people are not equal in your system. Because that's ASF policy in terms of accepting

Re: [OT] Re: [WWW][Policy] Participate! - Rewriting contributing.openoffice.org

Hi, Le 21 nov. 11 à 13:56, Shane Curcuru a écrit : I have perfectly understood, but you'll probably have to distrubute some roles too. This is urgent. Why do you say that? What roles besides sufficiently diverse PPMC members and enough committers to work on the code base does the podl

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

Hi Armin, Le 21 nov. 11 à 13:14, Armin a écrit : Rob Weir wrote: As you have probably read, these are just "cheap copies" / "copy on write" references in SVN, so the directory name does not really matter. Yes, I read that. just as expected :-) There might be some advantage to prefacing

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

Hi eric, On 21.11.2011 14:26, eric b wrote: Hi Armin, Le 21 nov. 11 à 13:14, Armin a écrit : [..] Interesting point. It may be useful to grep own cwses, or releases. Thus something like /cws/alg/svgreplacement /cws/alg/... /cws/someonelse/... /dev/aoo340 /dev/aoo350 ... would be

OOo-Dev Builds

Hi at all At the old OOo Project we have had milestones. This milestone was not installed as a normal OOo. We call them OOo-Dev Builds. The big difference between a productive OOo is the fact that the OOo-Dev build use different User directory. Normaly you can put only one OOo on a computer.

Re: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

On 11/18/11 2:14 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: just stumbled over the about dialog box. Besides the logo on top + the name, version and build info the text box below contains ### Copyright © 2000, 2011 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. This product was created by Oracle, based on

Re: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: > On 11/18/11 2:14 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> just stumbled over the about dialog box. >> >> Besides the logo on top + the name, version and build info the text box >> below contains >> >> ### >> Copyright © 2000,

Re: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

On 11/21/11 4:00 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: On 11/18/11 2:14 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: just stumbled over the about dialog box. Besides the logo on top + the name, version and build info the text box below contains ##

Re: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: > On 11/21/11 4:00 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 21, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Martin >> Hollmichel wrote: >> >>> On 11/18/11 2:14 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: just stumbled over the about

Re: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

Am 21.11.11 16:12, schrieb Dave Fisher: Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: On 11/21/11 4:00 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: On 11/18/11 2:14 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: just stumble

Re: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

On 11/21/11 4:12 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: On 11/21/11 4:00 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: On 11/18/11 2:14 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: just stumble

Re: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

2011/11/18 Jürgen Schmidt : > just stumbled over the about dialog box. > > Besides the logo on top + the name, version and build info the text box > below contains > > ### > Copyright © 2000, 2011 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. > This product was created by Oracle, based on Open

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: > Shane, > > the reference to the Apache Project is required here, agreed. We are > reworking the content of the pages to make the message more clear, your > guidance on how to point to Apache OpenOffice project is appreciated here, > Hi

Re: OOo-Dev Builds

Le 21 nov. 11 à 15:19, Raphael Bircher a écrit : Hi at all At the old OOo Project we have had milestones. This milestone was not installed as a normal OOo. We call them OOo-Dev Builds. The big difference between a productive OOo is the fact that the OOo-Dev build use different User direc

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

On 21 November 2011 16:14, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Martin Hollmichel > wrote: >> Shane, >> >> the reference to the Apache Project is required here, agreed. We are >> reworking the content of the pages to make the message more clear, your >> guidance on how to point to A

Re: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

On 11/21/11 4:49 PM, Rob Weir wrote: 2011/11/18 Jürgen Schmidt: just stumbled over the about dialog box. Besides the logo on top + the name, version and build info the text box below contains ### Copyright © 2000, 2011 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. This product was created

Re: OOo-Dev Builds

Am 21.11.11 17:30, schrieb eric b: Le 21 nov. 11 à 15:19, Raphael Bircher a écrit : Hi at all At the old OOo Project we have had milestones. This milestone was not installed as a normal OOo. We call them OOo-Dev Builds. The big difference between a productive OOo is the fact that the OOo-De

Proposal for retirement of openoffice.org email forwarder

At some point (and we don't know that date) the Oracle hosting of the *.openoffice.org email forwarder will be shut down.Users of this forwarder will be disappointed when they hear the news. But they will be far more upset if they do not hear about until their emails start disappearing. We did

RE: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

There's no reason not to install a copy of ALv2 and the NOTICE file in the root folder of an install. That way the NOTICE is the one that applies to the version that is installed. (OpenOffice.org already did this with the THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html file.) [ ... ] 4) Statement that notices

RE: Microsoft Tools for Windows Builds

Andre, I have my own interests in this kind of construction setup for Windows builds. I offered my snippets in case they are also useful in streamlining the Windows build case for Apache OpenOffice. I only did a little proof of concept to confirm that the settings are conveyed into a cygwin s

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

Hi, as said at other place, we are in the process of reworking the site, as immidiate action I removed the logo now, please give us some few time for review and rewrite wording, thank you, Martin Am 21.11.2011 17:50, schrieb Ross Gardler: On 21 November 2011 16:14, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon,

Re: Time for the ASF to send an Open Letter?

On Nov 17, 2011, at 7:24 AM, Kazunari Hirano wrote: > > If we (Apache) use OpenOffice as product name and Apache OpenOffice as > project name, then we can give Team OOo the OpenOffice.org brand and > trademark? > Why would we want to? You don't reward "bad behavior" so even if the ASF did want

Re: Proposal for retirement of openoffice.org email forwarder

On 21 Nov 2011, at 17:27, Rob Weir wrote: > 1) Check with Andrew on the latest date where we can be assured the > email forwarder will be still in operation. I don't want users > surprised, but neither do I want this to appear open-ended. Is Andrew also able to arrange for all the @openoffice.o

RE: Proposal for retirement of openoffice.org email forwarder

+1 on all of it -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 09:28 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Proposal for retirement of openoffice.org email forwarder [ ... ] This is my proposal, one that I am willing to work on. I welco

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

Hi Rob, All, We are sorry for the confusion caused by our website. In the meantime we took the English pages down and started the rework with the German pages. Your and Shane's separately sent input will guide us during the creation of the revised content. Greetings Stefan Am 21.11.2011 17:

Re: Microsoft Tools for Windows Builds

Hi Dennis, On 21.11.2011 18:37, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Andre, I have my own interests in this kind of construction setup for Windows builds. I offered my snippets in case they are also useful in streamlining the Windows build case for Apache OpenOffice. I only did a little proof of conce

Re: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

Rob Weir wrote: So in total, maybe something like: = Copyright © 2011 Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved. I'm not sure about this. Is there any code that is under the Apache copyright? As far as I know, the copyright still belongs to Oracle and third-party contributors.

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

Hmm... Not pretending to defend or condemn anyone here, but it would seem like SUN/Oracle had approved some external uses of the trademark that the ASF is not likely to approve. As long as they don't carry ASF logos we should be patient and allow time for some transition to go on. FWIW, I think

Re: [DISCUSS]: content of the about dialog box

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Rob Weir wrote: >> >> So in total, maybe something like: >> = >> Copyright © 2011 Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved. > > I'm not sure about this. Is there any code that is under the Apache > copyright? As far as I know

Re: Use of copyrighted images with permission

Hi guys; FWIW, I found an interesting statement corresponding to the OpenOffice.org logo: http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/logos/ "In order to protect the brand OpenOffice.org, the logo is not licensed under an open source license. As it is trademarked you are allowed to use it, if

Re: [CODE] configure.in: yes/no messages swapped in --enable-copyleft

Andre Fischer wrote: good point but please keep in mind that this is a temporary workaround. Much work is currently being done ... the --enable-copyleft switch will not live for very long. Thanks for the information, but since "configure" is writing a wrong (and potentially confusing) message,

Re: [CODE] configure.in: yes/no messages swapped in --enable-copyleft

FWIW; I have already touched that configure script more than I want to already but I would favor reverting the enable-copyleft switch: it is particularly wrong with weak copyleft. We should just remove the internal versions for anything copyleft but let people use the preinstalled packages that a

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

Alexandro started fixing the Spanish site, but there is more to do ... Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hmm... > > Not pretending to defend or condemn anyone here, > but it would seem like SUN/Oracle had approved > some external uses of the trademark tha

Apache Open Office Bugzilla

Hi Dave, I hope you're the right person for me to ask this question to. I have tried raising the issue a few times on the the dev list but got nothing back. Amongst other things, I'm a Bugzilla administrator at my day job. I'd like to help in whatever fashion I can with the Bugzilla instance

Re: Apache Open Office Bugzilla

On 11/21/2011 17:11, David McKay wrote: Hi Dave, I hope you're the right person for me to ask this question to. I have tried raising the issue a few times on the the dev list but got nothing back. Amongst other things, I'm a Bugzilla administrator at my day job. I'd like to help in whatever fas

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

On 19.11.2011 19:02, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > > --- On Sat, 11/19/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > ... >> This is not my area of expertise by >> any means. >> >> And I have a concern that this is topic is being >> over-simplified. This description is to test my own >> understanding of what it take

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

On 20.11.2011 02:38, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > For the specific situation of exploring CWS:gnumake4, I have some > concrete advice: Don't try it. The changes are extensive and the > effort to catch all of the incompatibilities and repair them reaches > into pretty much everywhere there is a *.m

Re: [Code] strategy for "child works spaces"

On 20.11.2011 12:22, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Hi Eric, *, > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:12 AM, eric b wrote: >> Le 19 nov. 11 à 22:55, Mathias Bauer a écrit : >>> Am 19.11.2011 15:22, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: >> >>> I still prefer the conversion of a cws in single diffs, each one >>> representin

Re: [WWW][Policy] Participate! - Rewriting contributing.openoffice.org

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > I agree that we can be quick. We will ask Apache Infra to permanently > redirect contributing.openoffice.org to our new page either to > > http://ooo-site.apache.org/participate/ > > or > > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/parti

Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

We have with this project something that most other Apache projects don't have and which the legacy OOo project never had. We have two independent websites. We have the legacy www.openoffice.org website, which served as an end-user portal for OpenOffice as well as a website for project participan

Re: Proposal for retirement of openoffice.org email forwarder

On Nov 21, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On 21 Nov 2011, at 17:27, Rob Weir wrote: > >> 1) Check with Andrew on the latest date where we can be assured the >> email forwarder will be still in operation. I don't want users >> surprised, but neither do I want this to appear open-ende

RE: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

+1 I think this is a good separation. It is also likely, I think, that there will be pathways from openoffice.org to openoffice.apache.org for situations that end-users and power users will certainly engage in, such as creating bug reports and interacting in other ways with the Apache OpenOffi

Res: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

+1 on that too. Best, Jomar -Original Message- From: Rob Weir Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:46:08 To: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites We have with this project something that most other Apache projects don't have and which the legacy O

New Committer: Martin Hollmichel

The Apache OOo PPMC announces the addition of initial committer Martin Hollmichel: mhollmichel @apache.org. The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation