Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/10/12 11:30 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Just my $0.02 --- Mar 10/7/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: But of course the open source ethos is release early; release often. So we need some way to balance that

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Yong Lin Ma
This is a good topic. I prefer to having 2 major releases every year, like 3.x or 4.x. and there can be maintain releases like 3.x.x between major releases for fixes of critical issues. TLS is an valid idea. But we should not do that until we see tangible requirments from users and we have

Re: [QA discuss] How to make keywords(tags) better used

2012-07-11 Thread liu ping
it seem that Advanced field in new defect page contain the keyword option :you can select the predefined keyword and also input self-definded keyword On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:35 AM, liu ping doneyours...@gmail.com wrote: Good discussion. the third optinon ,+1 In bugzilla ,advanced

Re: [Proposal]Redirect qa.openoffice.org www.openoffice.org/qa

2012-07-11 Thread Alexandro Colorado
The same goes for the wiki which points to http://www.openoffice.org/qa/ooQAReloaded/Docs/QA-Reloaded-HowToStart.html Which points to the registration page which is no longer available: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/Join I would suggest replacing it to the get involved page as well as add

Re: [QA][Request]Apply for the membership of AOO QA and edit permission in Bugzilla.

2012-07-11 Thread Herbert Duerr
Hi Shan Zhu, I'm Zhu Shan, QA of LotusSymphony(FVT and Accessbility Testing) in the past 4 years, focus on Spreadsheet and Chart, also familiar with the features in common usage of Presentation. Now, I'm turning to Apache OpenOffice. I've participated the AOO3.4 GC build testing, created more

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/11/12 8:53 AM, Yong Lin Ma wrote: This is a good topic. I prefer to having 2 major releases every year, like 3.x or 4.x. and there can be maintain releases like 3.x.x between major releases for fixes of critical issues. that means a 6 month cycle for minor releases, correct? TLS

Re: svn commit: r1357306 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/solenv/bin/build.pl

2012-07-11 Thread Andre Fischer
Hi Pavel, On 10.07.2012 21:47, Pavel Janík wrote: Andre, this particular change is incompatible with my build system. I do [meta-shell code]: I should have explained this change better (or at all). It is only intended as a temporary hack to find out the reason for the build breaker of

Bulgarian transaltion

2012-07-11 Thread Hristo Simeonov Hristov
Hi, I have lead project for tranlating of OOo in bulgarian. I had accoun in pootle translation server http://pootle.services.openoffice.org and we have keep translation of GUI and HElp on 100% there. Now this server is no more and there is new one for AOO. How to get account on new pootle

Re: [QA][Request]Apply for the membership of AOO QA and edit permission in Bugzilla.

2012-07-11 Thread Shan Zhu
Herbert, Thanks a lot. I'll try my best. :-D Regards, Shan Zhu 2012/7/11 Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org Hi Shan Zhu, I'm Zhu Shan, QA of LotusSymphony(FVT and Accessbility Testing) in the past 4 years, focus on Spreadsheet and Chart, also familiar with the features in common usage

Re: [QA discuss] How to make keywords(tags) better used

2012-07-11 Thread Ji Yan
Definitely, adding keywords make defect searching easily. I suggest adding the keyword to both keyword filed and tagging it in summary field. 2012/7/11 liu ping doneyours...@gmail.com it seem that Advanced field in new defect page contain the keyword option :you can select the predefined

Re: Suggestion - file format

2012-07-11 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I think the idealism of the OOo community sometimes gets in the way of progress. OO becoming more popular is more important than everyone using the better file format. And if OO does become more popular, many people will use the preferred format. Regards, Shmuel On 10-Jul-12 11:28 PM,

Re: Bulgarian transaltion

2012-07-11 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/11/12 9:26 AM, Hristo Simeonov Hristov wrote: Hi, I have lead project for tranlating of OOo in bulgarian. I had accoun in pootle translation server http://pootle.services.openoffice.org and we have keep translation of GUI and HElp on 100% there. Now this server is no more and there

Re: Suggestion - file format

2012-07-11 Thread Joost Andrae
Hi, people who want to have MS Office file formats as default storage format can configure it within the dialog /tools/options/load~save/general/ Please bear in mind that MS Office file formats are not OpenOffice's generic formats. OpenOffice needs to import/export them and it's not

Re: [BUILDBOT] build breakers

2012-07-11 Thread Andre Fischer
On 09.07.2012 19:13, Andrew Rist wrote: On 6/22/2012 2:37 AM, Andre Fischer wrote: Hi, there are build breakers on all three platforms - Windows7 in shell_2: has ./configure: line 7952: test: : integer expression expected ./configure: line 7957: test: : integer expression expected

[Proposal] implement the underline color im/export in Writer for MS filter

2012-07-11 Thread ZuoJun Chen
Hi, all I often received Word documents underlined with different colors for highlighting the important parts of content. However, the underline color of text would always become automatic black color in Apache Open Office, which is the mostly used word processor in my daily work. It is

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Juergen, My comments below. Thanks! - Simon 2012/7/11 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 7/11/12 8:53 AM, Yong Lin Ma wrote: This is a good topic. I prefer to having 2 major releases every year, like 3.x or 4.x. and there can be maintain releases like 3.x.x between major

Re: [QA discuss] How to make keywords(tags) better used

2012-07-11 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 11.07.2012 05:13, Li Feng Wang wrote: As QA, marking/tagging issues correspondingly is very useful. But I know, there is some way to use it in Bugzilla. I list some advantages and disadvantages about these ways, maybe not cover all. Thanks for starting the discussion! 1)Set keywords in

[PROPOSAL]: Url change for wiki and user forum

2012-07-11 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi, we have already discussed this topic several times and I would like to create now 2 Jira issues to move it forward. It means the ugly long urls wiki.services.openoffice.org user.services.openoffice.org will become obsolete over time and will be replaced by wiki.openoffice.org

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Url change for wiki and user forum

2012-07-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: obsolete over time and will be replaced by wiki.openoffice.org user.openoffice.org (or better users.openoffice.org) Good, but I would definitely add forum.openoffice.org too as the Forum address (singular; the fact that there are actually 10 different forum environments

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Url change for wiki and user forum

2012-07-11 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/11/12 1:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: obsolete over time and will be replaced by wiki.openoffice.org user.openoffice.org (or better users.openoffice.org) Good, but I would definitely add forum.openoffice.org too as the Forum address (singular; the fact that

Re: Suggestion - file format

2012-07-11 Thread Ian Lynch
On 11 July 2012 09:23, Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, people who want to have MS Office file formats as default storage format can configure it within the dialog /tools/options/load~save/**general/ Please bear in mind that MS Office file formats are not OpenOffice's generic

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, Shenfeng Liu schrieb: Hi, all, Since we are stepping forward to the 3.4.1 release smoothly, I think maybe it is time for us to look ahead for our next release now. I remember we had a discussion previously on how to run AOO's future releases, time boxed vs content boxed, 3.4.1 vs

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Wolf Halton
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote: Hi all, Shenfeng Liu schrieb: Hi, all, Since we are stepping forward to the 3.4.1 release smoothly, I think maybe it is time for us to look ahead for our next release now. I remember we had a discussion

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote: Hi all, Shenfeng Liu schrieb: Hi, all, Since we are stepping forward to the 3.4.1 release smoothly, I think maybe it is time for

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Url change for wiki and user forum

2012-07-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7/11/12 1:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: obsolete over time and will be replaced by wiki.openoffice.org user.openoffice.org (or better users.openoffice.org) Good, but I would definitely

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Url change for wiki and user forum

2012-07-11 Thread Zhe Liu
+1. it's too long to remember. I like the short url. -:) 2012/7/11 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com: Hi, we have already discussed this topic several times and I would like to create now 2 Jira issues to move it forward. It means the ugly long urls wiki.services.openoffice.org

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Url change for wiki and user forum

2012-07-11 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/11/12 2:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7/11/12 1:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: obsolete over time and will be replaced by wiki.openoffice.org user.openoffice.org (or better

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Hi, Rob, My comments below. - Simon 2012/7/11 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote: Hi all, Shenfeng Liu schrieb: Hi, all,

3.4.1_release_blocker requested: [Bug 120237] Crash when changing a shape background on OSX

2012-07-11 Thread bugzilla
h...@apache.org has asked for 3.4.1_release_blocker: Bug 120237: Crash when changing a shape background on OSX https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120237 --- Additional Comments from h...@apache.org Fixed with revision 1360181 on trunk: - a VirtualDevice was reused that was

Re: Suggestion - file format

2012-07-11 Thread Shenfeng Liu
My 2 cents: 1. OpenOffice should always associate the ODF files. No need to provide an option for user to check off. We can notify it during installation. 2. We should provide a check box for users to decide if he/she want OpenOffice to associate with MS Office format. 3. Setting MS Office format

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Url change for wiki and user forum

2012-07-11 Thread RGB ES
2012/7/11 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7/11/12 1:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: obsolete over time and will be replaced by wiki.openoffice.org user.openoffice.org (or better

Re: [QA discuss] How to make keywords(tags) better used

2012-07-11 Thread Ji Yan
Is there any easy way to add keyword? Raise request in mailing list? I don't think it's efficient way. IMHO we need a mechanism/rule to let bug reporter/QA/Dev to add keyword which doesn't appear in the list. Change it to editable field? BTW, I'd like to request adding following keyword to

RE: Suggestion - file format

2012-07-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I am concerned that a bad behavior is being suggested. Considerations: 1. Apache OpenOffice does not own the ODF file-format extensions, ODT, ODP, ODS, etc. (OpenOffice.org did not either.) 2. It is rude to take over those associations on install if they are already associated with a

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-07-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 05/07/2012 Shenfeng Liu wrote: While per my reading from the discussion, we generally agreed that the favorite way of integrating the values is to continuously merging Symphony into AOO, feature by feature. ... I also noticed that this thread is no longer as active as 2 weeks before. So I

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: In a 3.5 we can integrate many fixes and fidelity improvements from Symphony as Simon pointed out without bigger UI changes but of huge value for customers who have to work deal with MS formats etc. And of course we will increase the quality. Speaking with (too) little

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Andrea; --- Mer 11/7/12, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org ha scritto: ... Speaking with (too) little knowledge of the effort involved, I would keep a 3.4.x series with periodic bugfix releases, but use the trunk directly for a 4.0 release including the UI changes from Symphony and

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Url change for wiki and user forum

2012-07-11 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/11/2012 01:06 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi, we have already discussed this topic several times and I would like to create now 2 Jira issues to move it forward. It means the ugly long urls wiki.services.openoffice.org user.services.openoffice.org will become obsolete over time and

Re: [PROPOSAL]: Url change for wiki and user forum

2012-07-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7/11/12 1:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: obsolete over time and will be replaced by wiki.openoffice.org

Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-11 Thread Hagar Delest
It has been noticed by a forum user that the download link to Java points to the 1.7 version (Get the most recent Java (JRE): http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp ). We should point to a 1.6 version to avoid problems with Java 1.7 and AOO: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp Link is

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7/10/12 11:30 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Just my $0.02 --- Mar 10/7/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: But of course

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Ugh.. what I replied here was more pertinent to the Symphony and AOO thread, sorry. One thing that we must consider in the future for is being able to download incremental releases with binary diffs (like bsdiff). that would make it much easier to upgrade between micro releases. Pedro. --- Mer

Re: Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-11 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/11/2012 11:22 PM, schrieb Hagar Delest: It has been noticed by a forum user that the download link to Java points to the 1.7 version (Get the most recent Java (JRE): http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp ). We should point to a 1.6 version to avoid problems with Java 1.7 and AOO:

Re: Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
Why does Hagar need an agent to carry this out?  Isn't Hagar a committer and therefore can't he edit the page himself with the CMS? JFDI Hagar.  This does not need discussion unless you require more documentation about how to use the CMS. - Original Message - From: Marcus (OOo)

Re: [Proposal] implement the underline color im/export in Writer for MS filter

2012-07-11 Thread chengjh
I appreciate your effort to implement the MS Word binary filter on the underline color of text.And I think the work is very valuable to improve the fidelity with MS Word binary format.Please go ahead.Thanks. On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:17 PM, ZuoJun Chen zjchen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, all I

Re: [Proposal] implement the underline color im/export in Writer for MS filter

2012-07-11 Thread Zhe Liu
+1. I like the proposal. Good work. 2012/7/11 ZuoJun Chen zjchen...@gmail.com: Hi, all I often received Word documents underlined with different colors for highlighting the important parts of content. However, the underline color of text would always become automatic black color in

[QA]I create a wiki page to locate installation test cases

2012-07-11 Thread lou ql
Hi, all I draft some test cases for installation including clean install and upgrade for RPM, DEB and Windows .exe packages and post here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/AOO341_TestCase/Installation Please feel free to supplement it. -- Regards, Lou QingLe

Re: Suggestion - file format

2012-07-11 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I agree with Dennis, if there is already an association, ask. I frequently use computers with more than one application that uses ODF file formats as the default format. The problem, of course, is how to choose which to associate. For example, off hand, the first thought is that you have an

Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0?

2012-07-11 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Pedro, I think your comments are also very valuable to this planning thread! For the Symphony value integration, per Symphony team's evaluation, will take 2 years or even longer for all the contents. That's why I think it is critical to define some release in the middle to fruit. Fidelity,

Re: [QA]I create a wiki page to locate installation test cases

2012-07-11 Thread Ji Yan
Qing Le, Thanks for summarizing installation test in detail. One more suggestion, would you please separate verification point from case steps? It will let other understand your case more clearly. 2012/7/12 lou ql louqin...@gmail.com Hi, all I draft some test cases for installation