Hagar Delest wrote:
You've taken the fun out of it. ...
As a consequence, I resign from my PPMC role and will unsubscribe the
dev private mailing lists right now.
It's a very sad (hopefully temporary) consequence.
It proves that the OpenOffice project is not mature yet: it can still
happen
- Original Message -
From: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: hagar.del...@laposte.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:26 AM
Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)
Hagar Delest wrote:
You've taken the fun out
On 7/18/12 3:49 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: hagar.del...@laposte.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:26 AM
Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)
Hagar
- Original Message -
From: Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)
If Hagar really step back and won't continue his great job it will
I know that as a Mentor (only for Flex) my responsibility is to guide the
community to sustainability. Most of the time I am quiet, respond when needed
and let the project make its own decisions.
Note that Christian, an original Mentor, recently asked about graduation.
I won't speculate on why
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or
- Original Message -
From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Let's be clear: I don't have the desire to take the effort to do such thing.
I volunteer to this project on my free time because I like it. But the deal is
that I've to like it. I give my time to help users because I find some fun in
it.
So I won't engage in things that bore me. If you can't
From: Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)
Let's be clear: I don't have the desire to take the effort to do such thing.
On 2012-07-17 2:38 PM Joe Schaefer wrote:
From: Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)
Let's be clear: I don't have the
2012/7/17 Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com:
I haven't attacked you not a single time; I'm not bashing you either. I have
challenged you to increase your level of contribution to this project to match
the expectations of the other participants and committers on this mailing
list.
It
Larry,
I trust you reserve this behavior for this mailing list and
do not subject forum participants to the pack-animal behavior
you've been exhibiting here lately. The biggest concern I have
here with forum participants on this list is how their behavior
here translates to their conduct in the
Please, everyone. Let's not pile on this thread with more name
calling, etc., in the heat of the moment.
Let's set it aside and see tomorrow if there is anything more that
should be said. We accomplish nothing with rapid-fire, emotional
responses.
Thanks!
-Rob
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:54
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From: RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)
2012/7/17 Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com:
On 2012-07-17 3:01 PM Joe Schaefer wrote:
Larry,
I trust you reserve this behavior for this mailing list and
do not subject forum participants to the pack-animal behavior
you've been exhibiting here lately. The biggest concern I have
here with forum participants on this list is how their
On 2012-07-17 3:04 PM Rob Weir wrote:
Please, everyone. Let's not pile on this thread with more name
calling, etc., in the heat of the moment.
Let's set it aside and see tomorrow if there is anything more that
should be said. We accomplish nothing with rapid-fire, emotional
responses.
I
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2012-07-17 3:01 PM Joe Schaefer wrote:
Larry,
I trust you reserve this behavior for this mailing list and
do not subject forum participants to the pack-animal behavior
you've been exhibiting here lately. The
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:54:29 -0600
Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2012-07-17 2:38 PM Joe Schaefer wrote:
From: Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: On
If Hagar has a debilitating illness that prevents him from
acquiring the requisite skills, let me apologize for asking
him to try to do something a normal person on this mailing
list can accomplish for themselves.
That's the best you're going to get Larry.
- Original Message -
From:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:20:02 -0700 (PDT)
Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
If Hagar has a debilitating illness that prevents him from
acquiring the requisite skills, let me apologize for asking
him to try to do something a normal person on this mailing
list can accomplish for
- Original Message -
From: Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:20:02 -0700 (PDT)
Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Larry,
How do you think someone should be treated who preferred to file
AOO bug reports to the forums instead of to the issue tracker?
Would you encourage that sort of behavior, ignore it, or say
something to them about it?
All I'm saying is that the CMS is the analog to website bugs
as to what
The following text is boilerplate on the model that is sent to all who are
invited to be committers on AOOi. It is derived from a model document that is
to be found on the Apache site:
Hello invitee,
The Apache OpenOffice Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC)
hereby offers
Exactly so Dennis, and here is the community documentation which spells
out how a committer can more easily make changes without having to go
through the patch submission process for the website:
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/website-local.html
...Making updates to the Apache
- Original Message -
From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: dennis.hamil...@acm.org dennis.hamil...@acm.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)
I think that it is a good
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:17:28 -0700
Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
The following text is boilerplate on the model that is sent to all who are
invited to be committers on AOOi. It is derived from a model document that
is to be found on the Apache site:
Hello invitee,
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