[OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-08 Thread Lars Schimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 HI! Just out of interest: which site (beside our cell) is using OpenAFS as filestore for Windows Profile and customers working on this? MfG, Lars Schimmer - -- - - TU Graz, Institut für Comp

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-08 Thread Stephen Joyce
We (UNC-Chapel Hill Physics) have been doing this for a long time (4 years??) I believe UNC-Charlotte's college of engineering has also been doing this for a long time. Rodney Dyer has documented the details of it on his webpage (google will show you the page). It works OK. It's just not sim

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-08 Thread Dave Botsch
It's not out there for all users yet, but we are storing our windows profiles in AFS. On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 01:15:21PM +0100, Lars Schimmer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > HI! > > Just out of interest: > which site (beside our cell) is using OpenAFS as filestore fo

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-08 Thread Anders Magnusson
Lars Schimmer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 HI! Just out of interest: which site (beside our cell) is using OpenAFS as filestore for Windows Profile and customers working on this? We are still in test phase here, but it seems to work pretty well on both laptops and wo

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-09 Thread Jason Edgecombe
I was waiting for Rodney to chime in, but I can confirm this. The UNC-Charlotte College of Engineering does store profiles in AFS. I'm the not the Windows guy, so I only know what Rodney has said. We have had small but persistent problem with the hanging of roaming profiles. Rodney has writte

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-10 Thread Lars Schimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lars Schimmer wrote: > HI! > > Just out of interest: > which site (beside our cell) is using OpenAFS as filestore for Windows > Profile and customers working on this? Good to see we are not the only cell working with profiles in AFS space. We use 1.4

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-10 Thread Anders Magnusson
Lars Schimmer skrev: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lars Schimmer wrote: HI! Just out of interest: which site (beside our cell) is using OpenAFS as filestore for Windows Profile and customers working on this? Good to see we are not the only cell working with profiles

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-10 Thread Rodney M. Dyer
At 06:42 AM 2/10/2008, Lars Schimmer wrote: Biggest problems: 1. slowness - Users reports of LONG loading times for 400-1000 MB roaming profiles, up to 20 minutes Yeowie! I guess I should chime in at this point. Our experience with roaming profiles in AFS. We started using roaming profiles

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Lars Schimmer wrote: 1. slowness - Users reports of LONG loading times for 400-1000 MB roaming profiles, up to 20 minutes How large is your cache? If your cache is smaller than what you are loading all you are doing is repeatedly thrashing the contents of the cache. That will result in the w

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-10 Thread Christopher D. Clausen
Rodney M. Dyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So the only variable we have left is > "%username%". How am I supposed to setup folder redirection? > I can't use: > "n:\cell\usr\a\%username%\pc\win_data\Desktop" > > That won't work since the parent folders are different for every user. I have n

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-10 Thread Rodney M. Dyer
At 04:27 PM 2/10/2008, Christopher D. Clausen wrote: I have not tested this (all my user directories are out of a single folder) but can one use the documented set command envirnoment variable display options (set /?) to obtain the first (second, third, etc.) letter of a username? I haven't t

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Rodney M. Dyer wrote: There is a new "undocumented" third way that I might mention here. The latest OpenAFS Windows client has the unique ability to access a users volume directly by volume name. You must have the "freelance" option enabled to do this, and it goes somthing like this...

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-10 Thread Rodney M. Dyer
At 03:39 PM 2/10/2008, Rodney M. Dyer wrote: When a user is logged on, a global drive cannot be unmounted by the user which is nice. (This assumes they aren't an administrator.) I'm replying to myself here because I forgot a couple of extra items at this point. When a global drive is m

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Stephen Joyce wrote: 6. Profiles saved under Windows contain unicode characters. Profile and redirected folders don't currently work well with the AFS client because it doesn't support unicode file names. This isn't a huge issue, but sometimes this comes into play for our foreign students

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-10 Thread Stephen Joyce
I second almost everything Rodney said. But I have a few comments (inline). On Sun, 10 Feb 2008, Rodney M. Dyer wrote: 2. A users profile has a folder under it called "Local Settings". THIS FOLDER DOES NOT ROAM. This folder only exists during your session on the local machine. When you log

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-11 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Rodney M. Dyer wrote: At 12:33 PM 2/11/2008, Jeffrey Altman wrote: The AFS client does not support the UNICODE variant of the CIFS protocol and there is a bug in the Windows CIFS client that fails to properly process File Status Notification messages for objects accessed via UNC paths. This b

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-11 Thread Rodney M. Dyer
At 06:23 AM 2/11/2008, Lars Schimmer wrote: Ok, sorry, needed to snip thattext out, seems to be more or less the same like the PDF on best practice workshop 2005(or 2006?). I believe the information you are refering to is from "AFS on Windows", 2004 workshop As fas as I know, with Windows XP

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-11 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Lars Schimmer wrote: Ok, grabbing a procmon log, which filters should I apply before I make it public? Without its really BIIIG. In this special case, cache is now 400 MB and user profile juts 140 MB around, it should fit. How about just reading the output and finding where there are errors? I

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-11 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Lars Schimmer wrote: 3. reliability - some days windows hit a error while saving the profile and no "readable" info could be found - I assume mostly unicode problems need more details. Right now such a special "user profile". Win client 1.5.3009 (fresh installed today, 400 MB cache, Windows X

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-11 Thread Rodney M. Dyer
At 12:33 PM 2/11/2008, Jeffrey Altman wrote: The AFS client does not support the UNICODE variant of the CIFS protocol and there is a bug in the Windows CIFS client that fails to properly process File Status Notification messages for objects accessed via UNC paths. This bug was fixed in Vista.

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-11 Thread Lars Schimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rodney M. Dyer wrote: > At 06:42 AM 2/10/2008, Lars Schimmer wrote: >> Biggest problems: >> >> 1. slowness - Users reports of LONG loading times for 400-1000 MB >> roaming profiles, up to 20 minutes > > Yeowie! I guess I should chime in at this point

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-11 Thread Lars Schimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeffrey Altman wrote: > Lars Schimmer wrote: > >> 1. slowness - Users reports of LONG loading times for 400-1000 MB >> roaming profiles, up to 20 minutes > > How large is your cache? > > If your cache is smaller than what you are loading all you are

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-11 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Rodney M. Dyer wrote: True. That is a UNC path and it should work with roaming profiles. It is when we use UNC paths with "Folder Redirection" that small problems show up. If the users Desktop for example has been redirected to AFS, then a file stored on the desktop might not immediately be

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-10 Thread Christopher D. Clausen
Stephen Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 10 Feb 2008, Rodney M. Dyer wrote: >> 2. A users profile has a folder under it called "Local Settings". >> THIS FOLDER DOES NOT ROAM. This folder only exists during your >> session on the local machine. When you logout, the data in that >> fold

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS on windows - profile in AFS, who uses it?

2008-02-11 Thread Lars Schimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeffrey Altman wrote: | Lars Schimmer wrote: | |>>> 3. reliability - some days windows hit a error while saving the profile |>>> and no "readable" info could be found - I assume mostly unicode |>>> problems |>> need more details. |> |> Right now such