Re: Machine Learning , some thoughts

2018-06-27 Thread Seref Arikan
discussing and > consensus over the whole world for a set of archetypes, then there is not > much flexibility left. > This can work very good for the archetypes which are in CKM, but all those > new devices, all those new datatypes, all this new protocols, which cannot > wait for these

Re: Re: Machine Learning , some thoughts

2018-06-27 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Bert, Let me try to keep it brief: you seem to suggest breaking the openEHR methodology. If you allow downstream actors (clinical systems, guided by their users) create archetypes without going through the methodology, i.e. creating, discussing, reviewing archetypes, you'll end up with computab

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-02-28 Thread Seref Arikan
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 2:35 PM, GF wrote: > > > Gerard Freriks > +31 620347088 <+31%206%2020347088> > gf...@luna.nl > > Kattensingel 20 > 2801 CA Gouda > the Netherlands > > On 28 Feb 2018, at 14:42, Seref Arikan > wrote: > > Hi Tom, > &g

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-02-28 Thread Seref Arikan
thing here :) All the best Seref On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:42 PM, Seref Arikan < serefari...@kurumsalteknoloji.com> wrote: > Hi Tom, > > The original question is talking about 'threshold's changing in time. > Would not using reference ranges may make things complicated

Re: Setting thresholds

2018-02-28 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Tom, The original question is talking about 'threshold's changing in time. Would not using reference ranges may make things complicated during implementation with the changing threshold requirement? First: if the threshold is changing with respect to all instances of a particular composition (

Re:

2017-10-31 Thread Seref Arikan
th > > Bayesian Belief Networks for clinical decision support > > > > One of my most persistent PhD students, Seref Arikan, has published his > > ground-breaking PhD thesis on the UCL online repository. > > > > A fuller announcement and link has been posted in the

Re: RE:

2017-10-30 Thread Seref Arikan
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Re: RE:

2017-10-30 Thread Seref Arikan
ram, David > *Sent:* den 27 oktober 2017 13:28 > *To:* For openEHR clinical discussions (openehr-clinical@lists.openehr.org) > ; For openEHR technical discussions < > openehr-techni...@lists.openehr.org> > *Subject:* > > *An implementation focused evaluation of openEHR an

Re: Modeling generic concepts, considerations for querying

2017-09-26 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Pablo, I am not a clinician but as an implementer I see the benefits of less specific archetypes quite often. The fundamental role of archetypes is reuse. It is so by design and templates solve the problem of composition (in the object oriented sense, not the RM type). I think the rule I try t

Re: Z scores

2017-03-21 Thread Seref Arikan
(apologies if you receive this twice) Hi Heather, I'd humbly advice against making Z-Score an attribute for every quantity data. The first reason is that Z-Score is a meaningful metric for the assumption of normality, that is the possible values of the numeric quantity demonstrate a particular

Re: Approaches to Learning openEHR

2016-04-05 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Erik, Good work & well done. I personally find tutorial style approach as the most efficient way of learning anything, including openEHR. The method works for teaching as well, so I think your P.p.s is a good idea. All the best Seref On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 7:25 AM, Erik Sundvall wrote: > Th

Re: Socio-technical challenges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals

2016-03-11 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Ralph, The capabilities you have at your disposal at the point in which you have the model ready is specific to implementation. Some implementations provide/require less, some provide/require more. But you have template data objects, GDL, storage, XML serialisation, validation (not in this stric

Re: Socio-technical challenges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals

2016-03-11 Thread Seref Arikan
I would like to congratulate the authors for the amount of effort they’ve put into this paper. It is rarely the case that someone looks at such an important aspect of implementing openEHR with such a level of commitment. That being said, I think this study lacks a major aspect and it is probably

Re: openEHR @ StackExchange - getting close

2015-06-11 Thread Seref Arikan
That 'creative' approach popped up in my mind as well :) I just was not sure if it would trigger some sort of spam/bogus check (I'd certainly put one in place...) On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Roger Erens wrote: > And you can sign up multiple times using your e-mail accounts for work, > gma

Re: openEHR @ StackExchange - getting close

2015-06-11 Thread Seref Arikan
I don't think we can answer them before the site is approved. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Ian McNicoll wrote: > Thanks Bert, > > Completely agree. It will take only a few moments of your time but will > act as a great resource for the whole community. > > Your openEHR Stack Exchange needs

Re: openEHR @ StackExchange - progress

2015-06-09 Thread Seref Arikan
To all who are helping with this: there are questions with upvotes > 10. I think this is a waste of your upvotes; we need to get as many as possible to 10, upvoting beyond 10 does not help with our goal of creating an openEHR area. Also, some of the questions do not comply with Q&A format; generic

Problem-oriented records and querying by problem

2014-11-19 Thread Seref Arikan
Maybe I'm losing some clinical context by adopting a data view of the setting but would not a problem oriented record be a 'view' on clinical data ? The clinical problem is obviously context dependant (cancer, diabetes etc) so this sounds like a higher order view on top of clinical data to me. I'd

Relationship openEHR/CIMI

2014-10-28 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Silje, Thanks for noting this. I'll resist the urge to write a long, really long response and just say that I think you're right. This does not sound right (the understatement of the year for 2014 so far...) I'll leave the details to members of openEHR who regularly advice CIMI... Best regards

Archetype Naming proposals - do we need V0?

2014-10-01 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Ian, Personally I think V0 has significant costs in exchange for not so significant benefits. Semver compatibility would be nice, but nice is not worth the implementation cost for parser etc here. I don't know if V0 support would break things deep down in actual openEHR implementations but even

PhD thesis online: Scalability and Semantic Sustainability in Electronic Health Record Systems

2013-01-30 Thread Seref Arikan
Erik, Congrats, it must feel really nice to be able to reach this point. Best of luck for the defense :) Best regards Seref On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Erik Sundvall wrote: > Hi! > > My thesis entitled "Scalability and Semantic Sustainability in Electronic > Health Record Systems" is now

HL7 ANY type

2012-07-09 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Bert, I'm trying to get my head around your requirements. I can't say I've clearly got it, but let me try to reply via inline comments. On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Bert Verhees wrote: > Op 09-07-2012 17:15, Seref Arikan schreef: > > implementation, that wo

HL7 ANY type

2012-07-09 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Bert, Take a look at this as a reference: http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/spec/Archetype+Query+Language+Description#ArchetypeQueryLanguageDescription-AQLidentifiedpaths Regarding your question, I think the current specification for AQL does not discuss what would happen if an abstract type

openEHR mailing lists - moving

2012-01-23 Thread Seref Arikan
Yahoo groups also seem to suffer from the urge for improving my sex life, while wearing a fake rolex, as I travel to bank to help some guy inherit his late father's 987 bazillion dollars... On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Thomas Beale < thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com> wrote: > On 23/01/2

Question to clinical modellers: are you usually online when you're working?

2011-12-22 Thread Seref Arikan
in Web tools? > > Best regards, > Shinji > > 2011/12/22 Seref Arikan : > > Greetings, > > I would like to get the opinion of clinical modelling community about the > > requirement of being online. > > This is not a question about using web based tools. Even i

Question to clinical modellers: are you usually online when you're working?

2011-12-21 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, I would like to get the opinion of clinical modelling community about the requirement of being online. This is not a question about using web based tools. Even if you're using a modelling tool that does not require a browser, would it be a problem for you if the tool required that you ar

Revision of Instructions - clinical implications

2011-12-10 Thread Seref Arikan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_object On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:36 PM, S JAGANNATHAN wrote: > If that is the case. then there really is no need for Instruction > separately as such. > The 'what' can be specified and the context may be obtained by applying > attributes such as for a procedure-

Revision of Instructions - clinical implications

2011-12-10 Thread Seref Arikan
would it be wrong to say instruction = request; action = response ? On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Thomas Beale < thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com> wrote: > > Instruction defines what Activities should be performed. Actions record > the execution of those activities, which might not be exac

[openEHR-announce] ADL 1.5 Workbench beta 4 release - major new features

2011-09-09 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Peter, We may be able to replace Eiffel Vision with something else, but that is the next step of experiments, and will take a long discussion before we get started with it. Thanks for the explanation! Cheers Seref On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Peter Gummer wrote: > Seref Arikan wr

[openEHR-announce] ADL 1.5 Workbench beta 4 release - major new features

2011-09-09 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Tom, Thanks for all the hard work. I'll give it a spin under Linux and let you know how it goes. If I had a Mac (cough), I'd do the same for the sugar coated BSD ;) Regards Seref On 9 Sep 2011, at 01:00, Thomas Beale wrote: A new beta release of the ADL 1.5 Workbench is now available here<

Question about occurrences and cardinality values in the Blood Pressure archetype

2011-08-02 Thread Seref Arikan
Thanks Tom, The reworded rule is what I was asking for actually: something in the spec that sets the rule for this particular combination of values. Cheers Seref On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Thomas Beale wrote: > On 02/08/2011 13:13, Sebastian Garde wrote: > > Hi Seref, > > interesting, I th

Question about occurrences and cardinality values in the Blood Pressure archetype

2011-08-02 Thread Seref Arikan
y cannot both have zero instances, but you can > choose, and a cardinality of >=1 and member elements with occurrence >= > 0 is the way to express this choice I believe. > > Sebastian > > On 02.08.2011 12:46, Seref Arikan wrote: >> Greetings, >> Am I suffering from

Question about occurrences and cardinality values in the Blood Pressure archetype

2011-08-02 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, Am I suffering from acute caffeine deficiency syndrome (just made it up) or is there a problem with the occurrences of event and interval_events in the blood pressure archetype? In the published blood pressure archetype in the CKM, HISTORY[at0001] has events with cardinality {1..*; unord

One model vs One framework in e-health .....

2011-05-06 Thread Seref Arikan
Greetings, Minor point about one of the projects; Opereffa, and what it is trying to do. To serve the community spirit of the openEHR foundation, I've put a lot of functionality into Opereffa, which would not be necessary for the real purpose it was built for: my PhD work. Due to well known, and re

Are you aware of any archetypes for thyroid related data?

2011-02-17 Thread Seref Arikan
nicoll > ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com > > Clinical analyst,?Ocean Informatics, UK > openEHR Clinical Knowledge Editor www.openehr.org/knowledge > Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL > BCS Primary Health Care ?www.phcsg.org > > > > > On 17 February 201

Are you aware of any archetypes for thyroid related data?

2011-02-17 Thread Seref Arikan
question based on other clinical data, but for the moment I have not given up on using this data set. Best Regards Seref Arikan

Why is OpenEHR adoption so slow?

2010-11-22 Thread Seref Arikan
ng document somewhere except your weblog? > I want to cite this in an article. > > Best Regards > Pariya > > MSc; PhD Candidate > Department of Computing Science and Engineering > Chalmers University of Technology > http://www.chalmers.se/cse/EN/people/kashfi-hajar > > &

Why is OpenEHR adoption so slow?

2010-11-02 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Pablo, A very useful insight into the issues indeed. This is one topic that may end up being a quite long discussion, but I feel it is a topic that is worth laying out, not only today, but every couple of years or so, to see where we are. I'll provide my personal views here. openEHR is not a sm

openEHR-clinical Digest, Vol 44, Issue 14

2010-06-10 Thread Seref Arikan
I for one, would like to thank you for asking this question.It made me scratch my head when I first saw `rubric` being used for terminology item names in NCI's terminology server :) On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 1:18 PM, ognian.pishev < ognian.pishev at oceaninformatics.com> wrote: > I guess you could

Medinfo 2010 openEHR tutorial collision

2010-05-08 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Shinji and everyone, So there are sessions for implementation tips, and there is one for openEHR developers? Do we know who is doing which? :) Best Regards Seref On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:39 AM, KOBAYASHI, Shinji wrote: > Hi Heather, > > I found developers' workshop in Monday 13 Sep, Session

Open Source and SNOMED CT

2009-12-24 Thread Seref Arikan
Thanks Carol, We've been waiting for this one for quite some time. Kind regards Seref On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Dra Carola Hullin Lucay Cossio < carolhullin at hotmail.com> wrote: > > Dear All, > > The International Health Terminology Standards Development > Organisation announced today

Rong Chen PhD thesis online

2009-12-01 Thread Seref Arikan
Fantastic news Rong! Congratulations :) On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Zanifa Omary wrote: > Congratulations Rong, that's an achievement. > > Cheers, > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Rong Chen wrote: > >> Thank you all! =) >> >> I will definitely continue my work in the openEHR world wit

informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-11-30 Thread Seref Arikan
Even if this is slightly off topic considering the original post that started this topic, I'd like to suggest another alternative to streaming/phone calls etc. http://videolectures.net/ is a fantastic source of information with video recordings of key academic events. Instead of streaming which wou

Documentation Desparation

2009-09-25 Thread Seref Arikan
Dear all, I'd like to express my concerns about practical outcomes of suggested changes, changes based on potential benefits. I'd appreciate your input about the use cases we are discussing just to make sure that I get this right. First of all, translation of openEHR documentation to other language

IP Issues in medical practice

2009-07-21 Thread Seref Arikan
Dear members of the list, I'd like share with you an interesting lawsuit, which you may find interesting. It is not directly related to focus of this group, and but regarding current work around licencing issues of archetypes, the future may hold some nasty surprizes, especially when people realize

Announcement of the release of Opereffa by the openEHR Foundation

2009-07-05 Thread Seref Arikan
Thanks Tim, I've been using an older version of Ocean's archetype editor, will fix it. Cheers Seref On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Tim Cook wrote: > > > > > > > > >Announcement of the release of Opereffa by the openEHR > > > Foundation > >

Twittering on healthcare and openEHR

2009-07-03 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Heather, As far as I can see, the technology that has been introduced into our lives in the last 10 years have the following effects in clinical domain: Internet: clinicians can now reach other clinicians at the other side of the world and disagree with them. Web 2.0: Clinicians can now disagre

openEHR in 2009 and beyond.. a view of the way forward

2009-02-03 Thread Seref Arikan
icant enough,we will be sharing it as an open source application with the community. I hope I'll be able to share with you our progress as we move forward. Best Regards Seref Arikan ps: Thanks Koray, hope you are fine out there :) On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Hugh Leslie < h

{Disarmed} Interpretation of occurrence in multivalued attributes

2008-11-09 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi, In section 5.3.5.1 of Adl spec 1.5, draft 4, examples to both single and multi valued attributes are given within the context of subtype constraints. It is explicitly stated in the doc that lack of occurrence in a single valued attribute where multiple options are given (with different node id

AW: AW: AW: Chair of openEHR Clinical Review Board (CRB) .. yourviewsplease

2008-09-08 Thread Seref Arikan
Don't worry Thomas, if something goes a little bit wrong in the next few days at CERN, we can all unite in an unprecented level of harmony in a nice little black hole. Of course, the issue about being close to or far away from each other in a black hole is an important one, but I have the feeling

USA: Summary Report on NHIN Prototype Architectures

2007-07-10 Thread Seref Arikan
/healthnetwork/resources/summary_report_on_nhin_Prototype_architectures.pdf Best Regards Seref Arikan