On 29/10/2010 17:18, pablo pazos wrote:
Hi Thomas,
My opinion is the grade of adoption of a standard depend in some aspects of
goverment agencies, in some of the industry and some of the academy.
DICOM is a good example of an open standard heavily supported by the
industry, that's the point
On 29/10/2010 17:18, pablo pazos wrote:
Hi Thomas,
My opinion is the grade of adoption of a standard depend in some
aspects of goverment agencies, in some of the industry and some of the
academy.
DICOM is a good example of an open standard heavily supported by the
industry, that's the
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Hi Hugh,
I think that there is beginning to be serious industry penetration
in many parts of the world. We are seeing this in the Asia Pacific
region as well as many countries across Europe.
Do you have any concrete examples? I mean, do you know who is working on what?
As I say, we
Hi Thomas,
My opinion is the grade of adoption of a standard depend in some aspects of
goverment agencies, in some of the industry and some of the academy.
DICOM is a good example of an open standard heavily supported by the industry,
that's the point of it success. Can't be OpenEHR a
In all other industries, the quality of standards is
measured initially against public safety and then
against criteria of effectiveness and economic qualities.
it seems you mean, by market testing. If not, do you have an example?
In all other industries that i know of, standards are
And none of your examples are vertical industry IT standards.
Mark Bezzina for Stds Australia pointed out to me that IT
vertical standards are a totally different thing to every other
kind of standard.
You're trying to portray Health IT as some kind of
bizarre exemption, in that things are
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 21:25 +1100, Grahame Grieve wrote:
You're trying to portray Health IT as some kind of
bizarre exemption, in that things are totally done
in a weird way. But I don't think it's an exemption: I
think most IT verticals have the same problem, which
is that standards are
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 12:13 +0100, Thomas Beale wrote:
I would certainly agree with this last statement for e-health - and it
is a terrible way to do research. I have not encountered it in any
other IT area, though.
Might want to re-think that one Tom. Can we start with DARPA? :-)
--Tim
On 28/10/2010 12:22, Tim Cook wrote:
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 12:13 +0100, Thomas Beale wrote:
I would certainly agree with this last statement for e-health - and it
is a terrible way to do research. I have not encountered it in any
other IT area, though.
Might want to re-think that one Tom.
On 25/10/2010 21:59, William Goossen wrote:
Interesting comment Thomas,
I think official standards have nothing to do with obsession, but
with governments that have a legal obligation to ascertain some
equality on markets, regulations, and ensuring free access and
opportunities for all.
On 27/10/2010 21:10, Grahame Grieve wrote:
In all other industries, the quality of standards is
measured initially against public safety and then
against criteria of effectiveness and economic qualities.
it seems you mean, by market testing. If not, do you have an example?
well yes and no.
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 05:26:48AM +0100, Derek Meyer wrote:
I don't claim that all old information is useless.
My hypothesis is that clinical care generates vast amounts of information, and
very little of this vast amount is useful.?
Make that ... at any one time.
a) converts real
Sorry, I was not clear enough. I meant: if it could be shown that
certain patters over time corresponded to certain morbidities, then in
new patients (as yet undiagnosed) these patterns could be detected early
on.
- thomas
On 24/10/2010 21:30, Karsten Hilbert wrote:
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at
Dear all,
I have spent some time studying how doctors used an EPR using log data
(Determinants
of frequency and longevity of hospital encounters` data
usehttp://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6947/10/15/abstract
). I must say that some of our results were not so expected, namely the
difference on the
I think that the 'pebbles nuggets' characterisation is probably right,
although I don't think anyone knows what the balance is, i.e. at what
point it ceases to be worthwhile to trawl back in time. The trouble is
you get patients like a 12 yo child with a history of chronic tonsilitis
that is
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 11:58:31AM +0100, Thomas Beale wrote:
I think that the 'pebbles nuggets' characterisation is probably
right, although I don't think anyone knows what the balance is,
It isn't even easy to (sometimes not even possible) to know
what are the pebbles and what are the
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Late last year I said I would work on some material to help explain openEHR in
the wider context of healthcare change during 2010.
It has taken me longer that I originally planned but I've recently shared some
articles online towards that end.
http://frectal.com/book/
The articles explore
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Tony,
I agree thanks for the work and for sharing.
W. Ed Hammond, Ph.D.
Director, Duke Center for Health Informatics
Derek Meyer
dmeyer at
On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 17:12 +0100, Derek Meyer wrote:
Tony,
This is very impressive piece of work. Every since I first came
across openEHR I have intuitively felt that it is closer to the
'solution' than more static attempts at standardization. So why is
progress so slow? I've appplied
Hi Derek,
it is very simple. Not being an official standard has been a real
problem for government agencies, obsessed with official standards.
- thomas beale
On 22/10/2010 17:12, Derek Meyer wrote:
Tony,
This is very impressive piece of work. Every since I first came
across openEHR I
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