[openhealth] Re: Next VistA Community Meeting - January 9-11, 2007 at NIST, Gaithersburg, MD

2006-12-12 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Details, including the registration URL and hotel information are now at http://www.worldvista.org/Conferences A draft agenda will follow shortly. If you are not a US citizen or permanent resident, please contact me offline ASAP so that I can send you a special form to fill out. Although rese

[openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-12 Thread Alex Caldwell
--- In openhealth@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Trotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A "derivative work" includes some portion > > of the original verbatim and that should be avoided. > > > > > In order to work for billing the codes themselves would have to be carried > over from the CPT system. Th

Re: [openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-12 Thread Fred Trotter
> A "derivative work" includes some portion > of the original verbatim and that should be avoided. > > In order to work for billing the codes themselves would have to be carried over from the CPT system. Thus making any attempt to "re-describe" CPT codes a derivative work and largely useless. -F

[openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-12 Thread mspohr
The copyright covers "expressions of ideas", not the ideas themselves. You can certainly reference the original "idea" (description) and create a new "expression". A "derivative work" includes some portion of the original verbatim and that should be avoided. The idea of the patient not being abl

[openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-12 Thread Dr. Irving Buchbinder
Reply to the length of copyright proposed by John Bergman Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

Re: [openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-12 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 10:24:52AM +, 80n wrote: > Is it doable to create new descriptions from just the codes. Unless the > meaning of each code is common knowledge then you have to make recourse to > the original description, which makes your description a derived work at the > very least.

Re: [openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-12 Thread Tim Cook
All, It is interesting how much energy this conversation is getting. Now, I must admit that I am not pleased with any government granted monopoly. There are certain rights (and I am not a lawyer) granted under the referenced FARS/DFARS for end-users. You need to check those for yourself or c

Re: [openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-12 Thread 80n
Is it doable to create new descriptions from just the codes. Unless the meaning of each code is common knowledge then you have to make recourse to the original description, which makes your description a derived work at the very least. Is there any clean-room way of arriving at a description that

Re: [openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-12 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 10:54:32PM -0800, Rod Roark wrote: > Even absent the political ramifications, the resulting new system > will have useful applications. A billing service accepting the new > codes would still need CPT licensing, You guys need to keep straight what you are talking about. At