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On 3 Aug 2011, at 04:11, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> On 08/02/11 14:04, Pablo Oddera wrote:
>> Good links, but if you were going to emphasize that Oracle gave some code to
>> the community, Microsoft gave the double. Even worst Oracle has "Unbreakable
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On 08/02/11 14:04, Pablo Oddera wrote:
> Good links, but if you were going to emphasize that Oracle gave some code to
> the community, Microsoft gave the double. Even worst Oracle has "Unbreakable
> Linux (sic)", which is no more than a glorified clon of Red Hat (love Red
> Hat by the way). So in s
On 8/2/11 9:23 PM, Anil wrote:
Was that before things like ZFS etc?
that actually came out with opensolaris. there was some number that we
hardly sold any of them, which made it ok to cancel.
That happened to Sun because they were "donating" everything away, including
the source. Open source m
Was that before things like ZFS etc?
That happened to Sun because they were "donating" everything away, including
the source. Open source might increase community involvement, but won't
keep the boat afloat.
Finding the right price isn't my job, but all I can say is, I am not gong to
pay $800-$10
So sun tried that, it wasn't $99 but it was 349 for a year, for
basically self support.. and sun ended up on the side of the street with
a sign "will build os for food"
Oracle will make you pay enterprise pricing for enterprise products, the
idea of concept of enterprise is diminished by not c
For us the biggest issue is the price of the OS. We don't mind paying
something like $99/year/system or some thing of that sorts to run Solaris
(with patches). Sorry, support not required. Why can't Oracle do something
like that? What's it got to loose? The pricing they gave us was ridiculous,
so w
Alan,
Good links, but if you were going to emphasize that Oracle gave some code to
the community, Microsoft gave the double. Even worst Oracle has "Unbreakable
Linux (sic)", which is no more than a glorified clon of Red Hat (love Red
Hat by the way). So in short, they gave up a little, steal a lot
On 08/02/11 13:45, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote:
>> http://oss.oracle.com/ - Oracle's contributions to Linux & other open
>> source
>> products.
>
>
> Please tell us what Oracle did before Sun's takeover, because the things
> listed there are Sun's legacy!
BerkeleyDB, btrfs, eclipse, and basicall
>
> http://lwn.net/Articles/451243/ - top employers of contributors to the Linux
> 3.0
> release cycle, by changeset includes both Microsoft (support for running Linux
> as a guest in Microsoft HyperV) and Oracle (btrfs & general kernel tuning).
>
In the by changeset column:
RH did a 11,1%, O
On 08/02/11 11:49, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote:
>> Yes, it is a nice licensing model, because Oracle is a business, not a
>> charity,
>> and it's first duty is to it's shareholders. Red Hat, IBM, Microsoft,
>
> You cannot compare RH with Oracle and Microsoft. RH is selling support for
> an OpenS
> Yes, it is a nice licensing model, because Oracle is a business, not a
> charity,
> and it's first duty is to it's shareholders. Red Hat, IBM, Microsoft,
You cannot compare RH with Oracle and Microsoft. RH is selling support for
an OpenSource OS while Oracle and Microsoft have donated to the
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Tom Kranz wrote:
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> On 2 Aug 2011, at 12:09, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote:
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>> In a nutshell, Oracle wants free patches for its Linux, but
>> she does not want to share technology with others. Nice
>> "licensing m
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On 2 Aug 2011, at 12:09, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote:
> In a nutshell, Oracle wants free patches for its Linux, but
> she does not want to share technology with others. Nice
> "licensing model"...
Yes, it is a nice licensing model, because Oracle i
One more thing.
> So I'm not saying I'm against open source (who is?) but I feel
> that every business has a choice over which licensing model is
> most appropriate for their products and profitability.
Oracle wanted to get for free patches from RH, but in fact she
was stealing customers from
Hello.
I'd been working as Sun Campus Ambassador for about two years before Sun
eclipse. Sun technologies seemed astonishing. Also we had several SPARC
servers in university computer center.
However, price for SPARC hardware was unreasonable. Our new platform is
x64 IBM blades. What about So
On Aug 1, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote:
> And now that Oracle has close sourced Solaris, I am very sure you will count
> its users with the fingers of your hands!
Single desktop users? Sun Ray users? Server users? Enterprises, small to medium
business, or sole proprietorships?
> So I'm not saying I'm against open source (who is?) but I feel that
> every business has a choice over which licensing model is most appropriate
> for
> their products and profitability.
And I as a user have the right to like or dislike what a company does.
In this case, I strongly believe th
On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 15:31 -0700, Gary Driggs wrote:
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> On Jul 31, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
> > The problem in this instance is that Sun DID open source many cool things
> > and post Sun take over Oracle has been systematically "undoing" Sun's open
> > source gifting via a variet
On 07/31/11 09:09, Gary Driggs wrote:
It sounds to me as if Oracle has decided to keep its competitors in the OS
market from using their innovations
well,It appears Oracle Solaris 11 will be released in Nov according to
this code snippet. By then I think we will know if solaris will remain
On Jul 31, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Ken Gunderson wrote:
> The problem in this instance is that Sun DID open source many cool things and
> post Sun take over Oracle has been systematically "undoing" Sun's open source
> gifting via a variety of "innovative" tactics at pretty much every chance
> they c
On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 09:09 -0700, Gary Driggs wrote:
> If it's been five years in the making then that would suggest that not many
> Java VM and API developers were let go during the acquisition of Sun. Or were
> they?
> http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/apache-developers-java-7-contains-bugs-3
If it's been five years in the making then that would suggest that not many
Java VM and API developers were let go during the acquisition of Sun. Or were
they?
http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/apache-developers-java-7-contains-bugs-35619.
But I have to wonder who would be so bold or ignorant a
Hello,
Java 7 has been released and there is "praise" of this achievement
in the following URL
http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/java-se-7-a-triumph-for-oracle.html
What is really annoying with this masterpiece of "objective" journalism is
that,
in a nutshell, the author says that Or
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