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2008-10-28 Thread Lloyd Chambers
My comments should not hold up this junit case. ... I don't think we need to see any maven case-- I was just stating what is fairly common development practice which makes installation of junit and many other libraries a moot issue: one writes a maven build script (pom) and it automatically

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2008-10-27 Thread Lloyd Chambers
Anyone using maven has this problem solved already. I agree there might be crufty builds which might require downloading and installing, but a lot of software development now uses maven. Maven has versioned dependencies. So long as junit is in a repository (and it is), *no install is

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2008-10-27 Thread Lloyd Chambers
IMO, it is unacceptable to overwrite the old version. Software development does not work that way: you want specific versions and you do not want a new one appearing randomly to cause new problems. If it's maven-based, then the problem is solved (see my previous message). If not, I would

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2008-10-27 Thread Dean Roehrich
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:55:58AM -0700, Lloyd Chambers wrote: Maven has versioned dependencies. So long as junit is in a repository (and it is), *no install is needed*; the build process picks it up automatically (and puts it into the local maven repository). Ten versions? No problem.

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2008-10-27 Thread Jim Walker
Dean Roehrich wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:55:58AM -0700, Lloyd Chambers wrote: Maven has versioned dependencies. So long as junit is in a repository (and it is), *no install is needed*; the build process picks it up automatically (and puts it into the local maven repository). Ten

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2008-10-23 Thread mengwei
Danek Duvall ??: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:46:33PM -0600, Jim Walker wrote: Danek Duvall wrote: Missing are the classes and methods that are, presumably, part of the Public interface of any Java module intended for use by developers. Or are there no Private classes and methods

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2008-10-23 Thread mengwei
Jim Walker ??: Danek Duvall wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:46:33PM -0600, Jim Walker wrote: Danek Duvall wrote: Missing are the classes and methods that are, presumably, part of the Public interface of any Java module intended for use by developers. Or are there no Private classes and

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2008-10-22 Thread Jyri Virkki
Jim Walker wrote: Another reason to port Junit as a separate package was to establish a known location for the current version of Junit on OpenSolaris, so other products don't have to port their own version, so we can reduce redundant code where possible. +1.. Part of the problem is a

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2008-10-22 Thread Danek Duvall
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:46:33PM -0600, Jim Walker wrote: Danek Duvall wrote: Missing are the classes and methods that are, presumably, part of the Public interface of any Java module intended for use by developers. Or are there no Private classes and methods in the jar file? If

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2008-10-22 Thread Jim Walker
Danek Duvall wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 08:46:33PM -0600, Jim Walker wrote: Danek Duvall wrote: Missing are the classes and methods that are, presumably, part of the Public interface of any Java module intended for use by developers. Or are there no Private classes and methods in the

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2008-10-21 Thread Tom Childers
Mengwei James, Can someone tell me why we are doing this? What is the problem we are trying to solve? I'm not aware of any other platforms that include junit out of the box, and some middleware (like Glassfish) already packages junit. One of the other ARC members observes that their

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2008-10-21 Thread Mark Martin
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jim Walker James.Walker at sun.com wrote: In addition, OpenSolaris users are searching for various versions of Junit packages already: http://muskoka.sfbay/~sch/pkg/search.html Is that information openly exposable? -- next part -- An

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2008-10-21 Thread Jim Walker
Mark Martin wrote: Is that information openly exposable? Not at the moment. Cheers, Jim -- Jim Walker, http://blogs.sun.com/jwalker Sun Microsystems, Software, Solaris QE x77744, 500 Eldorado Blvd, Broomfield CO 80021

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2008-10-21 Thread John Plocher
Mark Martin wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jim Walker James.Walker at sun.com mailto:James.Walker at sun.com wrote: In addition, OpenSolaris users are searching for various versions of Junit packages already: http://muskoka.sfbay/~sch/pkg/search.html Is that

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2008-10-21 Thread Jim Walker
John Plocher wrote: Jim Walker wrote: We also understand the problem where several open source projects depend on older versions of Junit and don't plan to update their code to use the newer version. We felt it was best to start by porting the current version and revise it as new releases are

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2008-10-21 Thread John Plocher
Jim Walker wrote: If 1, why are you doing something that isn't well aligned with the known use-case for the component, and if 2, how will you actually do it? Is Maven the known use-case? Not really - the use case is that most every java thing that uses junit, depends on a different