[osol-discuss] re-distribution of closed-bins with opensolaris-based distro

2005-07-24 Thread Dmitry Yusupov
Hi Guys, I apologize if this topic was discussed before. Closed bins license says: "(b) reproduce and distribute the Software (and also portions of Software identified as Redistributable in the documentation accompanying Software), provided that you (i)distribute the Software or Redistributables

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Express 7/2005 Released

2005-07-24 Thread Ben Rockwood
Alan Coopersmith wrote: ken mays wrote: Now...I would like for Nvidia/Sun to have an easy fall back mode for those PCI-E graphic cards/motherboards and some type of detection for the GeForce cards without users fiddling with files. The next release of the nVidia driver should install the P

[osol-discuss] Re: new community for Chinese users

2005-07-24 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/eyan/Weblog > Now it looks like this thread is finally going somewhere! :-) Sun was/is one of the most significant contributors to iiimf (there are a lot of great things Sun did for the open source community but no one seems to talk about), but Red Hat did the

[osol-discuss] Re: new community for Chinese users

2005-07-24 Thread Ivan Wang
> > Anyway, before any consideration for > Simplified/Traditional Chinese user community/ies, I > would like to see iiimf ported to SOS. This little > utility package has made a big difference among > Chinese-speaking Linux users in their flocking to > Fedora. (Fedora Core "recklessly" deci

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Express 7/2005 Released

2005-07-24 Thread Alan Coopersmith
ken mays wrote: Now...I would like for Nvidia/Sun to have an easy fall back mode for those PCI-E graphic cards/motherboards and some type of detection for the GeForce cards without users fiddling with files. The next release of the nVidia driver should install the PCI id's for GeForce cards/ch

Re: [osol-discuss] agpgart (was: Solaris Express 7/2005 Released)

2005-07-24 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Dan Price wrote: * The AGPgart driver is integrated, providing greater graphics compatibility for Xorg. While it was done before OpenSolaris, this does include code from a long-time Solaris x86 community member, as it was based on Phil Brown's agpgart driver. Sophia, who worked on this p

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Express 7/2005 Released

2005-07-24 Thread ken mays
--- Dan Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks. Friday marked the release of Solaris > Express 7/2005. As > usual, you can fetch it via > http://www.sun.com/solaris-express. > > For my own amusement and edification, I write a > newsletter describing > what has changed from one express

[osol-discuss] Solaris Express 7/2005 Released

2005-07-24 Thread Dan Price
Hi folks. Friday marked the release of Solaris Express 7/2005. As usual, you can fetch it via http://www.sun.com/solaris-express. For my own amusement and edification, I write a newsletter describing what has changed from one express release to the next. I figured that it might be helpful to p

[osol-discuss] Re: new community for Chinese users

2005-07-24 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Looks like the original poster has gone AWOL. :-) Anyway, before any consideration for Simplified/Traditional Chinese user community/ies, I would like to see iiimf ported to SOS. This little utility package has made a big difference among Chinese-speaking Linux users in their flocking to Fed

Re: [osol-discuss] Debian with OpenSolaris: a broken dream

2005-07-24 Thread Glynn Foster
> So, let us not get so caught up in the numbers game. > I'd just like to see a Companion DVD worth of optional > open source software comparable to what you get when > buying a Linux/FreeBSD at a computer store or buy it > from Sun (with those Ultra 3 laptops!!!). Hey, 1K-3K > packages is good eno

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Installation of BFU and ON Tools

2005-07-24 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 08:34:41PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Please note that it would be a good idea to unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH > and LR_RUN_PATH from within solaris.sh nightly and bldenv both unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH and its variants, along with a large number of other linker-related variable

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Why I do think OpenSolaris ought to work with Debian

2005-07-24 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, > > But it's a shame about the Debian legal opinion; is there any sort of appeal > > process, or do these opinions tend to be final? > > I'm fairly certain they won't be budging on it, here's the latest > thread on choice-of-venue that I could find: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/200

Re: [osol-discuss] Etymology of BFU

2005-07-24 Thread Bryan Cantrill
> Hi all, > > A quick question for you: what definition of BFU came first: > Blindingly Fast Upgrade, or Bonwick Faulkner Upgrade? Just > curious. I had always been led to believe that both were just more palatable names retrofitted on to BFU after it was in widepread use -- and that the origina

[osol-discuss] Etymology of BFU

2005-07-24 Thread Rich Teer
Hi all, A quick question for you: what definition of BFU came first: Blindingly Fast Upgrade, or Bonwick Faulkner Upgrade? Just curious. Cheers, -- Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member President, Rite Online Inc. Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638 URL: http://www.rite-group.com/rich _

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Installation of BFU and ON Tools

2005-07-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Keith M Wesolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 11:51:34AM -0700, michael wolfe wrote: > > > below is sort of what you need to do to build your new kernel. > > It's more than the kernel; nightly builds all of ON. > > > sh solaris.sh your enviornment should be setup to run t

Re: [osol-discuss] Successful build on Ultra 3

2005-07-24 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 07:59:31AM -0700, Rich Teer wrote: > > Total build time was approximately 2:45 (1.28Ghz UltraSPARC-IIIi, 2G > > RAM, Hitachi Travelstar 5K80 40G IDE HD with UFS logging turned on). > > This compares to 4:05 on my dual 450Mhz U60 with 2G RAM and 36G SCSI. > > Blimey! The s

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Installation of BFU and ON Tools

2005-07-24 Thread Keith M Wesolowski
On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 11:51:34AM -0700, michael wolfe wrote: > below is sort of what you need to do to build your new kernel. It's more than the kernel; nightly builds all of ON. > sh solaris.sh your enviornment should be setup to run the the korn shell > script called 'nightly' which is in :

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Proposal of new community for Solaris x86 device driver

2005-07-24 Thread Bob Palowoda
> They're shipping ksh93, which is open source. > Solaris includes ksh88 > (g I believe), which is not. We'd love to just > upgrade, but they're > not 100% compatible. > In the document: http://www.kornshell.com/info/ it says it's compatable. Just curious what the big compatiblity problems a

[osol-discuss] Re: Successful build on Ultra 3

2005-07-24 Thread Nikolay Molchanov
Hello Bill and Rich, I think it is not quite correct to compare sparc build with x64 build, but anyway, could you please add more information: 1. number of CPUs 2. number of parallel jobs (assuming you use dmake) 3. total real time 4. total user time 5. total sys time Thanks in advance, Nikolay

Re: [osol-discuss] Successful build on Ultra 3

2005-07-24 Thread Bill Bradford
On 7/24/05, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jul 2005, Bill Bradford wrote: > > Total build time was approximately 2:45 (1.28Ghz UltraSPARC-IIIi, 2G > > RAM, Hitachi Travelstar 5K80 40G IDE HD with UFS logging turned on). > > This compares to 4:05 on my dual 450Mhz U60 with 2G RAM

Re: [osol-discuss] Successful build on Ultra 3

2005-07-24 Thread Rich Teer
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005, Bill Bradford wrote: > Total build time was approximately 2:45 (1.28Ghz UltraSPARC-IIIi, 2G > RAM, Hitachi Travelstar 5K80 40G IDE HD with UFS logging turned on). > This compares to 4:05 on my dual 450Mhz U60 with 2G RAM and 36G SCSI. Blimey! The same build takes about 90 mi

[osol-discuss] Re: new community for Chinese users

2005-07-24 Thread TJ Yang
Looks like this thread went digressed. Will there be forum for Chinese users ? Also if there is a need to create discussion forum for "Chinese" users then please create two forums. One is "Simplify Chinese" and one is "Tranditional Chinese". T.J. Yang This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: short of storage

2005-07-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would not recommend cpio, it does not support > > sparse files. > > Better use star -copy, it is even much faster :-) > > There are several problems here: > > a) `star` is not included by deafult in any revision of Solaris, but `cpio` is This is not cor

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: short of storage

2005-07-24 Thread UNIX admin
> I would not recommend cpio, it does not support > sparse files. > Better use star -copy, it is even much faster :-) There are several problems here: a) `star` is not included by deafult in any revision of Solaris, but `cpio` is b) I have to study the `star` documentation before I even try to

[osol-discuss] Re: short of storage

2005-07-24 Thread UNIX admin
> Thanks for you advices. > > Would you please told me more details how to add new > disk > for root directory / I will write another article on it as soon as I get a chance. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

[osol-discuss] Successful build on Ultra 3

2005-07-24 Thread Bill Bradford
I've just finished a successful build of the first release of the OpenSolaris code on a Naturetech Meso999 (also sold by Sun as one of the "Ultra 3" portables). [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/> cat /etc/motd Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.11 naturetech Jul. 24, 2005 SunOS Internal Development: roo