Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ?

2006-02-21 Thread Ian Collins
Bill Rushmore wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: Actually there is the 3rd type of customer: People who write software - they usually fall in the space between the two types. Currently Sun simply lacks a decent development machine which is affordable by students (Sun Blade 100 w

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ?

2006-02-21 Thread Octave Orgeron
Hi Everyone, I thought I'd comment on this subject because it's near and dear to my heart. I have an Ultra60 and a Netra X1 at home that I use for testing, designing, and every-day stuff (web, email, etc). In my profession, it's important to stay ahead of the learning curve. While both of these sy

Re: [osol-discuss] Discussion rollup: desktop-discuss, 02/05 - 02/18

2006-02-21 Thread Eric Boutilier
John Levon wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 06:46:54PM -0600, Eric Boutilier wrote: = desktop-discuss 02/05 - 02/18 = Eric, are these going to be regular? Yes. If so, is it possible they could be posted somewhere else perhaps

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ?

2006-02-21 Thread Bruno S. Delbono
Bill Rushmore wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: Actually there is the 3rd type of customer: People who write software - they usually fall in the space between the two types. Currently Sun simply lacks a decent development machine which is affordable by students (Sun Blade 100 was

[osol-discuss] Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ?

2006-02-21 Thread Bill Rushmore
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: > Actually there is the 3rd type of customer: People who write software - > they usually fall in the space between the two types. Currently Sun > simply lacks a decent development machine which is affordable by > students (Sun Blade 100 was in that range) ..

Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Ian Collins
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Ian Collins wrote: Roland Mainz wrote: Actually there is the 3rd type of customer: People who write software - they usually fall in the space between the two types. Currently Sun simply lacks a decent development machine which is affordable by students (Sun Blade 100

Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Ian Collins wrote: Roland Mainz wrote: Actually there is the 3rd type of customer: People who write software - they usually fall in the space between the two types. Currently Sun simply lacks a decent development machine which is affordable by students (Sun Blade 100 was in that range) ... Ult

Re: [osol-discuss] 128bit integer support in Solaris ?

2006-02-21 Thread Roland Mainz
Paul Jakma wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Roland Mainz wrote: > > > Background: I am looking into getting some applications related to > > bioinformatics "ported" to Niagara. Since this processor performs > > VERY VERY badly when floating-point instructions are used I was > > thinking about turning

Re: [osol-discuss] Discussion rollup: desktop-discuss, 02/05 - 02/18

2006-02-21 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 06:46:54PM -0600, Eric Boutilier wrote: > = > desktop-discuss 02/05 - 02/18 > = Eric, are these going to be regular? If so, is it possible they could be posted somewhere else perhaps? I'm finding it difficult to keep

Re: Cheap SPARC development machine ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Ian Collins
Roland Mainz wrote: Dennis Clarke wrote: On 2/21/06, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Felix Schulte wrote: You can plug them together for less than 500? if you order the stuff from alternate.de Maybe, but will you get a 3 year warranty?

[osol-discuss] Discussion rollup: desktop-discuss, 02/05 - 02/18

2006-02-21 Thread Eric Boutilier
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Cheap SPARC development machine ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Roland Mainz
Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 2/21/06, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Felix Schulte wrote: > > > > > You can plug them together for less than 500? if you order the stuff > > > from alternate.de > > > > Maybe, but will you get a 3 year warranty? > > I think we have two di

Re: [osol-discuss] onnv/SXCR status

2006-02-21 Thread Stephen Lau
Karyn Ritter wrote: Steve will put out another nightly sync up with onnv_34 before the end of the week. (Tomorrow?) Probably tomorrow, possibly Thursday. And it will be with the current-build-in-progress, which is onnv_35. SXCR build 34 is on track for release on March 6. excellent. cheer

Re: [osol-discuss] onnv/SXCR status

2006-02-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 2/21/06, Karyn Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve will put out another nightly sync up with onnv_34 before the end of the > week. (Tomorrow?) > > SXCR build 34 is on track for release on March 6. > Excellent .. thank you Karyn. I will keep an eye on Steve to see when I can grab sources

[osol-discuss] Discussion rollup: zfs-discuss, 02/05 - 02/18

2006-02-21 Thread Eric Boutilier
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[osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris for users, sysadmins and data processing centers

2006-02-21 Thread Eric Boutilier
Ghee Teo wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Looks like this is something I have to live with. I tried to be as unbiased as possible, so the only name that could be used was OpenSolaris. I hope that Ken will read the book and make his remarks based on the content of the book. Note

[osol-discuss] Re: Bi-weekly roll-up report experiment

2006-02-21 Thread Eric Boutilier
Jim Grisanzio wrote: Eric Boutilier wrote: I see this as complementary to (and possibly a source of additional content for) the newsletter and summary initiatives that already exist. Very nice, Eric. I'd love to include some of this data in the newsletter, but I'm even more interes

[osol-discuss] Re: Bi-weekly roll-up report experiment

2006-02-21 Thread Eric Boutilier
Dennis Clarke wrote: Can you get this output in a HTML format... Well, if nothing else, for now we can always just put tags around the plain text output. and the nmaybe Derek can make it show up directly in an web page somewhere I don't see why not, but I'm not sure which web page

[osol-discuss] onnv/SXCR status

2006-02-21 Thread Karyn Ritter
Steve will put out another nightly sync up with onnv_34 before the end of the week. (Tomorrow?) SXCR build 34 is on track for release on March 6. That is all for this week... - Karyn This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mai

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Network wierdness on S-Express 33 on VMWare Server

2006-02-21 Thread Bill Walker - Sun Principal Engineer
I use workstation... and have had wierd things with the bridged network. Remember, you are piling a second IP onto a single MAC address, so things like DHCP and ARPing are sometimes broken. This can also cause problems with some network switches that actually care about the traffic coming thro

[osol-discuss] Re: Network wierdness on S-Express 33 on VMWare Server

2006-02-21 Thread Andrew Pattison
Hmm - it seems pinging doesn't work. I don't really know what is going on here as the interface comes up OK, just won't send and receive. I'll just double check the VMWare setup isn't borked Yes, the virtual NIC is bridged onto VMnet0, the default config. Cheers Andrew. This message posted

Re: [osol-discuss] Network wierdness on S-Express 33 on VMWare Server Beta

2006-02-21 Thread Bill Rushmore
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Andrew Pattison wrote: > I've got a strange network problem running on VMWare Server Beta (new version > of GSX server that's free). The interface seems to come up OK if I put in > static IP config information, pings hosts OK, but then fails to do much else > - DNS fails, a

[osol-discuss] Network wierdness on S-Express 33 on VMWare Server Beta

2006-02-21 Thread Andrew Pattison
I've got a strange network problem running on VMWare Server Beta (new version of GSX server that's free). The interface seems to come up OK if I put in static IP config information, pings hosts OK, but then fails to do much else - DNS fails, and web is non-functioning. If I try DHCP, DHCP config

[osol-discuss] Re: public SMF repository for FOSS pacakges?

2006-02-21 Thread Liane Praza
Mark Greenbank wrote: > Is there a public repository for SMF configuration > files for popular open source packages (e.g., > PostgreSQL)? > If not, does anyone see a value in this? I myself am > trying to add > packages to a stock Solaris system and I'm finding I > have to craft a > lot of them by

Re: Re[2]: [osol-discuss] Re: AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 2/21/06, Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Dennis, > > Tuesday, February 21, 2006, 3:11:57 PM, you wrote: > > DC> On 2/21/06, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Yes the X2 will work--but how much money will you > >> > save over a Sun X2100? > >> > They start at less t

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: UDFS R/W support for CD-RW / DVD+-RWs?

2006-02-21 Thread Jürgen Keil
> I have a Pioneer DVR-107D unit ( much like your > DVR-108 ) and it is flashed to the latest firmware from Pioneer. > What software are you using? cdrw ? On Solaris > Express b31 or SXCR b33 ? cdrw. Works for me. On SXCR b28, bfu'ed to opensolaris 20060214 bits. The PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 i

Re[2]: [osol-discuss] Re: AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Dennis, Tuesday, February 21, 2006, 3:11:57 PM, you wrote: DC> On 2/21/06, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Yes the X2 will work--but how much money will you >> > save over a Sun X2100? >> > They start at less than $700. >> >> Where? Sun store has them listed @ $745 USD. DC> The

Re: [osol-discuss] AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread John Martinez
On Feb 21, 2006, at 8:45 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: I think we have two different types of thinking here. The business world wants to put in a server and software services that "just work" and they have someone to call in the event of a problem. A software support contract as well as on site ha

Re: [osol-discuss] AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Daniel Rock
Felix Schulte schrieb: On 2/21/06, Ben Rockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ken wrote: anyone have experience using solaris 10 with the amd 64 x2 processors? I am looking to build a rather cheap low end server. TIA Yes. ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~$ psrinfo -vp The physical processor has 2 virtua

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Matt Ingenthron
Rich Teer wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, UNIX admin wrote: Yes the X2 will work--but how much money will you save over a Sun X2100? They start at less than $700. Where? Sun store has them listed @ $745 USD. Sorry about that--my bad. For some reason I

Re: [osol-discuss] AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 2/21/06, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Felix Schulte wrote: > > > You can plug them together for less than 500? if you order the stuff > > from alternate.de > > Maybe, but will you get a 3 year warranty? I think we have two different types of thinking here. The bu

Re: [osol-discuss] AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Felix Schulte
On 2/21/06, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Felix Schulte wrote: > > > You can plug them together for less than 500? if you order the stuff > > from alternate.de > > Maybe, but will you get a 3 year warranty? No, but I get a dual core CPU and 1 year warranty guaranteed b

Re: [osol-discuss] AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Rich Teer
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Felix Schulte wrote: > You can plug them together for less than 500? if you order the stuff > from alternate.de Maybe, but will you get a 3 year warranty? -- Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member President, Rite Online Inc. Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638 URL: http://www

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Rich Teer
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, UNIX admin wrote: > > Yes the X2 will work--but how much money will you > > save over a Sun X2100? > > They start at less than $700. > > Where? Sun store has them listed @ $745 USD. Sorry about that--my bad. For some reason I was thinking of $695 as the starting price. --

[osol-discuss] Re: NetBSD's pkgsrc on Solaris

2006-02-21 Thread Eric Boutilier
Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: On 2/21/06, Venky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Neat! Why don't you add the article to the OpenSolaris wiki? http://www.genunix.org/wiki Venky. or to the contents project for review nacho Excellent! So per my last post ("sharing articles"), I just sub

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: UDFS R/W support for CD-RW / DVD+-RWs?

2006-02-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 2/21/06, Jürgen Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > DVD+RW has more restrictions than a formatted CD-RW or DVD-RW > > > What software are you using for this ? I have a Pioneer DVR-107D unit ( much like your DVR-108 ) and it is flashed to the latest firmware from Pioneer. Using lib

Re: [osol-discuss] public SMF repository for FOSS pacakges?

2006-02-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 2/21/06, Mark Greenbank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Is there a public repository for SMF configuration files for popular open > source packages (e.g., PostgreSQL)? > > If not, does anyone see a value in this? I myself am trying to add packages > to a stock Solaris system and

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: UDFS R/W support for CD-RW / DVD+-RWs?

2006-02-21 Thread Jürgen Keil
> > > > > (And the other limitations make incremental writing > > > > > through the OS cumbersome except for DVD-RAM) > > > > > > > > Hmm, formatted DVD+RW media also has no such > > > > restrictions, you can read/write individual 2048 byte blocks, > > > > just like DVD-RAM. > > > > > > This is n

Re: [osol-discuss] NetBSD's pkgsrc on Solaris

2006-02-21 Thread Pradhap Devarajan
If one needs to get started without compiling sources they can try the precompiled NetBSD's pkgsrc. http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/pradhap/20051229 - PradhapOn 2/21/06, Ignacio Marambio Catán <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/21/06, Venky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Neat!  Why don't you add the ar

[osol-discuss] public SMF repository for FOSS pacakges?

2006-02-21 Thread Mark Greenbank
Hi everyone, Is there a public repository for SMF configuration files for popular open source packages (e.g., PostgreSQL)? If not, does anyone see a value in this? I myself am trying to add packages to a stock Solaris system and I'm finding I have to craft a lot of them by myself. Thanks, Mark _

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 2/21/06, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes the X2 will work--but how much money will you > > save over a Sun X2100? > > They start at less than $700. > > Where? Sun store has them listed @ $745 USD. The X2100 is a single core single processor system. If you want the multi-core CPU

Re: [osol-discuss] AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Felix Schulte
On 2/21/06, Ben Rockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken wrote: > > >anyone have experience using solaris 10 with the amd 64 x2 processors? I am > >looking to build a rather cheap low end server. TIA > > > Yes. ;) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~$ psrinfo -vp > The physical processor has 2 virtual process

Re: [osol-discuss] AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread Felix Schulte
On 2/21/06, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 20 Feb 2006, Ken wrote: > > > anyone have experience using solaris 10 with the amd 64 x2 processors? I am > > looking to build a rather cheap low end server. TIA > > Yes the X2 will work--but how much money will you save over a Sun X2100?

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris @ CeBIT2006

2006-02-21 Thread Detlef Drewanz
Unforgently we are not able to offer free CeBIT tickets (but this was the reason why we make the event @ sunday - on sunday it's cheaper). Detlef On 02/21/06 13:17, Felix Schulte wrote: On 2/21/06, Detlef Drewanz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, the first German OpenSolaris User Group Meeting

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: UDFS R/W support for CD-RW / DVD+-RWs?

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jürgen Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > (And the other limitations make incremental writing > > > > through the OS cumbersome except for DVD-RAM) > > > > > > Hmm, formatted DVD+RW media also has no such > > > restrictions, you can read/write individual 2048 byte blocks, > > > just like DV

Re: [osol-discuss] NetBSD's pkgsrc on Solaris

2006-02-21 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
On 2/21/06, Venky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neat! Why don't you add the article to the OpenSolaris wiki? > http://www.genunix.org/wiki > > Venky. or to the contents project for review nacho > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 11:55:37PM -0800, Roman wrote: > > Hi, if anybody is using NetBSD's pkgsrc f

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: UDFS R/W support for CD-RW / DVD+-RWs?

2006-02-21 Thread Jürgen Keil
> > > (And the other limitations make incremental writing > > > through the OS cumbersome except for DVD-RAM) > > > > Hmm, formatted DVD+RW media also has no such > > restrictions, you can read/write individual 2048 byte blocks, > > just like DVD-RAM. > > This is not true. > > DVD+RW has more re

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris @ CeBIT2006

2006-02-21 Thread Felix Schulte
On 2/21/06, Detlef Drewanz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > the first German OpenSolaris User Group Meeting will be > hosted by Sun Microsystems at the CeBIT 2006. Come, see, > meet the specialists and have some discussion with other > OpenSolaris enthusiasts. Will Sun offer free CeBIT tickets fo

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris @ CeBIT2006

2006-02-21 Thread Detlef Drewanz
Hi, the first German OpenSolaris User Group Meeting will be hosted by Sun Microsystems at the CeBIT 2006. Come, see, meet the specialists and have some discussion with other OpenSolaris enthusiasts. When: Sunday, March 12th, 2006, 14:00 - 20:00 What: 14:00 Intro to OpenSolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] File I/O, rm, cp operations slower on Solaris?

2006-02-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Raju Uppalapati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When copying or removing directories with lots of content, it feels like it > takes more time to complete the same task on Solaris than on Linux. > Is Solaris is really slower than Linux for file system related tasks? > Is the slowness due to some defa

[osol-discuss] Re: AMD 64 X2 processor support

2006-02-21 Thread UNIX admin
> Yes the X2 will work--but how much money will you > save over a Sun X2100? > They start at less than $700. Where? Sun store has them listed @ $745 USD. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@op

[osol-discuss] Re: File I/O, rm, cp operations slower on Solaris?

2006-02-21 Thread UNIX admin
> When copying or removing directories with lots of > content, it feels like it takes more time to complete > the same task on Solaris than on Linux. > Is Solaris is really slower than Linux for file > system related tasks? > Is the slowness due to some default security and data > consistency featu

[osol-discuss] Re: File I/O, rm, cp operations slower on Solaris?

2006-02-21 Thread UNIX admin
> By default it should continue to do what it does > right now. As a user if I can change some > configuration that makes Solaris follow the file i/o > pattern (insecure but quick) as Linux, it will > improve my productivity. One has to wonder about productivity improvement if the system experienc

Re: [osol-discuss] NetBSD's pkgsrc on Solaris

2006-02-21 Thread Venky
Neat! Why don't you add the article to the OpenSolaris wiki? http://www.genunix.org/wiki Venky. On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 11:55:37PM -0800, Roman wrote: > Hi, if anybody is using NetBSD's pkgsrc framework for building > third party software from source, then you might want to have > a look at my g