On Monday 07 August 2006 11:17 pm, Hugh McIntyre wrote:
> Overall I have to agree that cdrw wins on ease of use with "cdrw -i
> file".
Kind of surprising that it doesn't even require cdctl or cdadm to make it
work. (pulling tongue out of cheek;-)
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> > Nobody needs to do this (nor is reading the man-page actually required
> more than once): The cdrecord-CLI itself does provide _enough_
> self-documentation.
>
> Looks like you missed a smiley there,
Why??
> if you haven't then I'm sorry you
> are so narrow minded
I do have a problem wit
Unless you're working on vi no one could remember (& be sure about your memory)
of any of those options.
Typically, you simply open another x-term, do a help command option, e.g.,
"cdrecord --help", then copy and paste the intended option(s) in your CLI.
(Every couple of years or so, O'Reiley
On 7 Aug 2006, at 13:46, Joerg Schilling wrote:
As long as I (partially together with Erast) remain the only person
who
tries to respond to these claims, Debian will be really successful
with this
kind of CDDL treatement.
Alvaro Lopez from our team in Ireland has certainly spent some time
On Mon 08/07/06 at 17:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Monday 07 August 2006 03:47 pm, Christof Pintaske wrote:
> > CDDL is an OSI approved open source license
> > (http://www.opensource.org/licenses/index.php). What other criteria are
> > there to make an open source license a good open source
Hugh McIntyre wrote:
Overall I have to agree that cdrw wins on ease of use with "cdrw -i
file". But the good news may be that almost the only issue with
cdrecord is the need to specify dev=a,b,c. And to use -scanbus before
this to find the device.
I too hate to jump in to the detailed d
On 7/27/06, April Chin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just a very brief status for those who are interested...
The ksh93 project team is currently working out the final details
on the PSARC case for the ksh93 integration project. The expectation
is that it will be submitted for an open PSARC review
Joerg Schilling wrote:
The very fact you have to read the cdrecord man page in depth is the
issue.
This is strange, it seems that you did not realize that it is not possible
to use cdrw without reading it's man page. The CLI from cdrw seems to be
even worse than the one from cdrecord.
> On Mon 08/07/06 at 17:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Monday 07 August 2006 03:47 pm, Christof Pintaske wrote:
>> > CDDL is an OSI approved open source license
>> > (http://www.opensource.org/licenses/index.php). What other criteria are
>> > there to make an open source license a good open
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Teresa Giacomini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would be willing to speak in Petersburg or Prague ;-)
BTW: I did already speak in February in Prague in the Sun office.
Jörg
Cool Joerg. I'm still collecting names. Is there something specific
you would be
Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It is definitely not. I guess that you just did read the man page for cdrw
> > many times but did not do the same for cdrecord.
>
> Well I did use it without ever reading the man page (and neither you are
> I can prove otherwise :-)). I know that wi
Joerg Schilling writes:
> > Well we will just have to disagree on that, for me cdrw(1) is very
> > simple and its list of options is just right
> > for me; even though I hardly use any of them.
>
> For me cdrw is very non-intuitive. Cdrecord on the other side works completely
> intuitive and it d
> I'm done, I'm going to continue using cdrw(1) because it does what I
> need and doesn't confuse me.
I will never use cdrw because it confuses me.
Cdrecord is easier to use.
Jörg
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Can we move this discussion off to a smaller distribution? (Maybe just
Joerg, Alan, Darren and James?) It has moved from a clearly
opensolaris-wide topic (Nexenta!) to a rehash of CDDL-vs-GPL and now has
degenerated into a usability design review and marketing bake-off
between two CD/DVD writ
On 8/8/06, Hugh McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
PS: on my system at least, cdrecord seems to win in the always-important
"not burning coaster DVDs" stakes though, unlike cdrw, which dies at the
start for some reason. So I'm grateful for this, but it would certainly
be nice not to have to spe
> Joerg Schilling writes:
>> > Well we will just have to disagree on that, for me cdrw(1) is very
>> > simple and its list of options is just right
>> > for me; even though I hardly use any of them.
>>
>> For me cdrw is very non-intuitive. Cdrecord on the other side works
>> completely
>> intuitiv
Hugh McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Now, people may complain "what about the scan time on a system with
> hundreds of drives". I think the same complaint may have been raised
> during cdrw development, but the ease of use argument won out, as well
> as "well in that case, specify dev=
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, John Plocher wrote:
Can we move this discussion off to a smaller distribution?
+1
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"Martin Bochnig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Plus: cdrecord is more than just the 'cdrecord' binary itself. Don't forget
> the other tools (including 'readcd') and libs (libscg) shipping with it.
> 'readcd' is very important!
Do not forget mkisofs and cdda2wav.
Jörg
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Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As for the "hard to memorize" options of cdrw, I use all of about 3 in the
> absolute worst scenario, and I usually don't specify speed or device, it
> actually knows without me telling it.
>
> -i = image
> -p = speed
Why is there a need to use the non-i
Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Note that I even suggested that cdrw(1) be reimplemented using the
> cdrecord library/binaries.
>
> This isn't about how good the individual programs are at putting the
> bits onto or getting them off of CD/DVD media. For me this *is* ONLY a
> UI is
> Can we move this discussion off to a smaller distribution? (Maybe just
> Joerg, Alan, Darren and James?) It has moved from a clearly
> opensolaris-wide topic (Nexenta!) to a rehash of CDDL-vs-GPL and now has
> degenerated into a usability design review and marketing bake-off
> between two CD/D
Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alvaro Lopez from our team in Ireland has certainly spent some time
> talking to the Debian guys about their CDDL issues, too (most
> recently at Debconf in Mexico, IIRC).
Do you know about what he was talking with Debian people and what
results he co
Matt Ingenthron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here in the El Segundo office, the service guys have wrappered cdrecord
> with a script to avoid the scanbus and device stuff on a shared system
> for writing discs. Despite that, I still use cdrw, because it works and
> I'm so lazy I don't even bot
James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joerg Schilling writes:
> > > Well we will just have to disagree on that, for me cdrw(1) is very
> > > simple and its list of options is just right
> > > for me; even though I hardly use any of them.
> >
> > For me cdrw is very non-intuitive. Cdrecord o
"Dennis Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I want to burn a bloody DVD then I should type :
>
> cdrecord foo.iso
This is whyt cdrecord allows you to do since a long time.
If you like to know it exactly: longer than cdrw exists
This is why I cannot understand why people claim that they h
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Darren J Moffat wrote:
...
I'm actually starting to think that Nexenta's /usr/sun isn't that bad an
idea and maybe even Solaris should have that. That would mean that I
could do things like this:
PATH=/usr/sun/bin:/usr/gnu/bin:/usr/bin
That would mean that on Nexen
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Moinak Ghosh wrote:
Eric Boutilier wrote:
Wasn't there an effort between the Nexenta and Belenix teams to start a
centralized, "cross-distro" project? My take was that they wanted to try
and share (centralize?) certain source-level tasks/outputs, such as
having
common patch d
Might want to check this out:
http://blogs.sfbay.sun.com/roller/page/OpenSourceNews/20060808#CDDL_recommended_by_OSI
Calum Benson wrote:
On 7 Aug 2006, at 13:46, Joerg Schilling wrote:
As long as I (partially together with Erast) remain the only person who
tries to respond to these claims
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > No disrespect to Jörg, but FWIW I wholeheartedly concur. (I really don't
> > like the -longoptionname nomenclature, as used by find(1)).
>
> This is really strange, so you like the hard to memorize options f
> Might want to check this out:
> http://blogs.sfbay.sun.com/roller/page/OpenSourceNews/20060808#CDDL_recommended_by_OSI
>
> Calum Benson wrote:
internal link ?
its a big 404 out here
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On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 18:03 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Alvaro Lopez from our team in Ireland has certainly spent some time
> > talking to the Debian guys about their CDDL issues, too (most
> > recently at Debconf in Mexico, IIRC).
>
> Do you
G. It is! I didn't realize that. Sorry..
Simon, is there a reason why this is internal-only?
Dennis Clarke wrote:
Might want to check this out:
http://blogs.sfbay.sun.com/roller/page/OpenSourceNews/20060808#CDDL_recommended_by_OSI
Calum Benson wrote:
internal
Hi, I use Ultra 10 running Solaris 10, whenever I reboot the machine, the audio
output is reset to internal speaker. I can run sdtaudiocontrol in X to mute the
internal speaker, but it's annoying to do it every time. Is there a command to
achieve the same thing via a script , i.e. when the machi
Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Alvaro Lopez from our team in Ireland has certainly spent some time
> > > talking to the Debian guys about their CDDL issues, too (most
> > > recently at Debconf in Mexico, IIRC).
...
> Not off-hand, although I'm sure he's probably blogged about any
Rich Teer wrote:
* See the "Utility Syntax Guidelines" in Chapter 12 of the XBD section
of the SUSv3.
As well as the following PSARC cases (note that the URLs will change
soon - the "/testbed/" part will go away):
PSARC/1991/031 - getopts/POSIX/SUS
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/arc
Hi Raymond,
please have a look here
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/vl?entry=turn_the_bell_off_on
Hope that helps,
Victor
Raymond wrote:
Hi, I use Ultra 10 running Solaris 10, whenever I reboot the machine, the audio
output is reset to internal speaker. I can run sdtaudiocontrol in X to mu
Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is really strange, so you like the hard to memorize options from cdrw?
>
> The only cdrw options I've used are -i, -M, and -C (and -i is by far the
> most often one I use).
They are hard to memorize even if there are only a few of them.
-C is not need
On Tue 08 Aug 2006 at 08:47AM, John Plocher wrote:
> Can we move this discussion off to a smaller distribution? (Maybe just
> Joerg, Alan, Darren and James?) It has moved from a clearly
> opensolaris-wide topic (Nexenta!) to a rehash of CDDL-vs-GPL and now has
> degenerated into a usability de
Sorry it doesn't help. The problem is when I play audio files, the sound is
coming from the internal speaker. I want to disable this, however mixerctl
command does not support it, it only displays the status of the device and
various fields in audio_info_t structure. Why couldn't they just add a
> "Martin Bochnig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Plus: cdrecord is more than just the 'cdrecord' binary itself. Don't
> forget the other tools (including 'readcd') and libs (libscg) shipping with
> it.
> > 'readcd' is very important!
>
> Do not forget mkisofs and cdda2wav.
>
> Joerg
OK, turns out that running '/bin/audioplay -p headphone' disables output to the
internal speaker. This is something I could put into my .profile when I log in.
This message posted from opensolaris.org
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"Martin Bochnig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Of course not.
> I just wasn't 100% sure they were invented and written by you.
mkisofs and cdda2wav are not written and invented by me but that are part of
cdrtools and I am currently the only official maintainer of both programs.
Jörg
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Nils Nieuwejaar wrote On 08/08/06 21:44,:
On Mon 08/07/06 at 17:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 07 August 2006 03:47 pm, Christof Pintaske wrote:
CDDL is an OSI approved open source license
(http://www.opensource.org/licenses/index.php). What other criteria are
there to make an open
Derek :
What does it take to get the page at
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/power_pc/
to also be at
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/power_pc/
Just a symlink ? I can not think of a reason to duplicate info. It would
be best to just have one page that lives u
Raymond wrote:
Sorry it doesn't help. The problem is when I play audio files, the sound is
coming from the internal speaker. I want to disable this, however mixerctl
command does not support it, it only displays the status of the device and
various fields in audio_info_t structure. Why couldn'
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