Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Ian Collins
Moinak Ghosh wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> [...] >> >>> Strictly conformant to the above would therefore be: >>> >>> #definedirfd(dp)((dp) ? (dp)->dd_fd : -1) >>> >> >> >> No. Nothing to do with strictly conformant; while it is possible >> to have a DIR * which is NULL, usin

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Casper . Dik
>And to try to answer my own question, Draft 2 says >(about dirfd() among others): > >...shall be declared as functions and may also be defined as macros. Function >prototypes shall be provided. > >and specifically about dirfd(): > >The dirfd( ) function may fail if: >[EINVAL] The dirp argument do

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Moinak Ghosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Strictly conformant to the above would therefore be: #define dirfd(dp) ((dp) ? (dp)->dd_fd : -1) No. Nothing to do with strictly conformant; while it is possible to have a DIR * which is NULL, using it immediately gets you undefined behaviour. IMHO,

[osol-discuss] Update to B60 ?

2007-03-22 Thread Horvath
How to update to Nevada b60 ? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] more generic firmware download software for Hitachi FC drive?

2007-03-22 Thread James C. McPherson
Richard L. Hamilton wrote: I know there's a downloader in the patch 116464-02, but what I've got is a 2nd-hand DK32EJ-72FC that has NetApp firmware on it, that I just put in my Sun Blade 2000; and (if it's possible without trashing the drive), I'd prefer to put the Sun firmware on it. However, t

[osol-discuss] more generic firmware download software for Hitachi FC drive?

2007-03-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I know there's a downloader in the patch 116464-02, but what I've got is a 2nd-hand DK32EJ-72FC that has NetApp firmware on it, that I just put in my Sun Blade 2000; and (if it's possible without trashing the drive), I'd prefer to put the Sun firmware on it. However, the downloader AFAIK will only

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Fire!! core dumped!

2007-03-22 Thread eric wang
Thanks!! More information: Hi, All, Here is the pstack information from dbx. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) terminated by signal SEGV (access to address exceeded protections) 0xfd90b258: _lock_try_adaptive : ldstub [%o0 + 12], %o1 (dbx) where current thread: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =>

Re: [osol-discuss] What is OpenSolaris success?

2007-03-22 Thread Mike Kupfer
> "Jörg" == Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> *Bzzz* *whrrr* Jörg> How do you pronounce this? Uh... like they're spelled...? ;-) Just think electromechanical Borg-ish sounds. cheers, mike ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensola

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread James Carlson
Stefan Teleman writes: > On Thursday 22 March 2007 18:23, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > The dirfd( ) function may fail if: > > > [EINVAL] The dirp argument does not refer to a valid directory > > > stream. > > > > May is not "must" ;-) > > It isn't "can't" or "shouldtn't" either. Right, but tes

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Thursday 22 March 2007 18:23, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > The dirfd( ) function may fail if: > > [EINVAL] The dirp argument does not refer to a valid directory > > stream. > > May is not "must" ;-) It isn't "can't" or "shouldtn't" either. --Stefan -- Stefan Teleman 'Nobody E

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Richard L. Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And to try to answer my own question, Draft 2 says > (about dirfd() among others): > > ...shall be declared as functions and may also be defined as macros. Function > prototypes shall be provided. > > and specifically about dirfd(): > > The dirfd(

[osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
And to try to answer my own question, Draft 2 says (about dirfd() among others): ...shall be declared as functions and may also be defined as macros. Function prototypes shall be provided. and specifically about dirfd(): The dirfd( ) function may fail if: [EINVAL] The dirp argument does not refe

[osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Question in my mind would be whether any existing implementation allows a NULL argument (and presumably returns -1 then), and also whether there's enough known about the direction of the POSIX draft to know whether it would allow that behavior. This message posted from opensolaris.org _

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Stefan Teleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 22 March 2007 15:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> getc(NULL) also blows up; what is your point? > > > > > >My point is that it should not SEGV on NULL pointer. It should > > >return -1 and set EBADF. > > > > You are wrong; the standard dis

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Casper . Dik
>On Thursday 22 March 2007 15:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> getc(NULL) also blows up; what is your point? >> > >> >My point is that it should not SEGV on NULL pointer. It should >> >return -1 and set EBADF. >> >> You are wrong; the standard disagrees with you. > >7.19.7.5.3: > >The [getc] fun

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread James Carlson
Stefan Teleman writes: > On Thursday 22 March 2007 15:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> getc(NULL) also blows up; what is your point? > > > > > >My point is that it should not SEGV on NULL pointer. It should > > >return -1 and set EBADF. > > > > You are wrong; the standard disagrees with you. >

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Casper . Dik
>On 22/03/07, Thomas De Schampheleire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> pkginfo SUNWman does show: >> system SUNWman On-Line Manual Pages >> >> doesn't this mean it is installed? > >That's the man command, not the man pages. It's about 12700 manpages too. Casper __

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Thursday 22 March 2007 15:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> getc(NULL) also blows up; what is your point? > > > >My point is that it should not SEGV on NULL pointer. It should > >return -1 and set EBADF. > > You are wrong; the standard disagrees with you. 7.19.7.5.3: The [getc] function return

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Darren J Moffat
Dick Davies wrote: On 22/03/07, Thomas De Schampheleire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: pkginfo SUNWman does show: system SUNWman On-Line Manual Pages doesn't this mean it is installed? That's the man command, not the man pages. The SUNWman package contains the man pages for the ON consoli

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Dick Davies
On 22/03/07, Thomas De Schampheleire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: pkginfo SUNWman does show: system SUNWman On-Line Manual Pages doesn't this mean it is installed? That's the man command, not the man pages. -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.n

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Casper . Dik
>> getc(NULL) also blows up; what is your point? > >My point is that it should not SEGV on NULL pointer. It should >return -1 and set EBADF. You are wrong; the standard disagrees with you. What point is there to have obviously broken code do plausible things? FILE *fp = fopen("no-such

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Thursday 22 March 2007 15:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >On Thursday 22 March 2007 10:21, Joerg Schilling wrote: > >> But BTW: dirfd() would be just: > >> > >> #define dirfd(dp) (dp)->dd_fd > > > >This works really well when (dp) is NULL. > > Yes, is will SEGV; is that an issue? Yes. It can r

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Casper . Dik
>On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> All our tools accept "man tool"; that's actually 3 letters less typing. > >Indeed; and for a concise "Usage" message, "tool -?" often (if >not always) does the trick. (I generally find the tool --help output unhelpful; it's generally to terse an

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Casper . Dik
>None of them mentions whether DIR can be NULL. NULL is not a valid DIR * therefor you invoke undefined behaviour; then anything goes. >One could argue 'returns -1 on error' would mean they should return -1 >then - but then, neither of the above specify what errno would have to be >set to. No

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Casper . Dik
>On Thursday 22 March 2007 10:21, Joerg Schilling wrote: > >> But BTW: dirfd() would be just: >> >> #define dirfd(dp)(dp)->dd_fd > >This works really well when (dp) is NULL. Yes, is will SEGV; is that an issue? getc(NULL) also blows up; what is your point? If you right buggy code without er

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Rich Teer
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Shawn Walker wrote: > That is a matter of preference. I always hated the -- options GNU > utilities use since they were so much more to type. I will admit You and me both! -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OpenSolaris CAB member CEO, My Online Home Inventory Voice: +1 (25

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Shawn Walker
On 22/03/07, Thomas De Schampheleire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another annoyance is that most tools do not accept --help. This is common with GNU tools, and I prefer it over -h, because some tools might use -h for a real thing. In case -h means "remove all files", then you're screwed... That

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Shawn Walker
On 22/03/07, Thomas De Schampheleire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What I personally find important in Linux is: - the user experience, mostly embodied by the KDE desktop environment. I don't like Gnome, so I don't like the default Solaris desktop environment. I heard that there is a KDE project for

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Rich Teer
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All our tools accept "man tool"; that's actually 3 letters less typing. Indeed; and for a concise "Usage" message, "tool -?" often (if not always) does the trick. -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OpenSolaris CAB member CEO, My Online Home Invent

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Shawn Walker
On 22/03/07, Thomas De Schampheleire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another thing that came to mind: the fact that Solaris needs a primary partition to install on is a big problem in my view. I had set-up my disk so there were 3 logical partitions of about 15GB for operating systems (linux and I hope

[osol-discuss] Overview (rollup) of recent activity on opensolaris-discuss

2007-03-22 Thread Eric Boutilier
For background on what this is, see: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=24416#24416 http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=25200#25200 = opensolaris-discuss 03/01 - 03/15 = Size of all threads du

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Casper . Dik
>In my version of grep (2.5.1), -R and -r are the same. I use -R >because a lot of other tools, like ls, only support -R. ls -r means >'reverse'. Tools like "grep" really should not have sprouted a "-R" because it is contrary to the Unix tool philosophy. Gnu apparently wants to reimplement all t

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread James Carlson
Stefan Teleman writes: > On Thursday 22 March 2007 10:21, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > But BTW: dirfd() would be just: > > > > #define dirfd(dp) (dp)->dd_fd > > This works really well when (dp) is NULL. Ignoring the NULL question for a moment, think it would be quite wrong to implement this as

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Stefan Teleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > /* testnulldir.c */ > > #include > #include > #include > > #define dirfd(dp)(dp)->dd_fd > static const char* dirname = "/this/baby/does/not/exist"; > > int > main(int argc, char* argv[]) > { > DIR* dir; > int fd; > > fd = dirfd(opendir

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Frank Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Stefan Teleman wrote: > > > On Thursday 22 March 2007 10:21, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > >> But BTW: dirfd() would be just: > >> > >> #define dirfd(dp) (dp)->dd_fd > > > > This works really well when (dp) is NULL. > > > > --Stefan >

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Thursday 22 March 2007 12:29, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Stefan Teleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 22 March 2007 10:21, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > But BTW: dirfd() would be just: > > > > > > #define dirfd(dp) (dp)->dd_fd > > > > This works really well when (dp) is NULL. > > ??? >

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Stefan Teleman wrote: On Thursday 22 March 2007 10:21, Joerg Schilling wrote: But BTW: dirfd() would be just: #define dirfd(dp) (dp)->dd_fd This works really well when (dp) is NULL. --Stefan Found those: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man3/dirfd.3.html http:

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Stefan Teleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 22 March 2007 10:21, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > But BTW: dirfd() would be just: > > > > #define dirfd(dp) (dp)->dd_fd > > This works really well when (dp) is NULL. ??? Garbage in -> garbage out. Do not expect to get useful results in c

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Thursday 22 March 2007 10:21, Joerg Schilling wrote: > But BTW: dirfd() would be just: > > #define dirfd(dp) (dp)->dd_fd This works really well when (dp) is NULL. --Stefan -- Stefan Teleman 'Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition' KDE e.V.

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Thomas De Schampheleire
On 3/22/07, Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It doesn't on linux either (i think you mean 'grep -r'), but yes - this drives me mad too :) You should have a /usr/sfw/bin/ggrep that works how you want - if not, you need to add the 'SUNWggrp' package. In my version of grep (2.5.1), -R and -r

[osol-discuss] Re: blastwave package handling

2007-03-22 Thread Eric Boutilier
[Convention-aware me: "I'm sorry here for following up to my own post." Actual Me: "Why should I be?"] Previously, I wrote: Previously, Dave Miner wrote: At the risk of repeating myself for about the 50th time in the past year, I'd encourage these packaging-related discussions to occur with th

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jonathan Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Though I don't personally have enough knowledge about the subject to really > make a very good argument here, it's been suggested by steleman (from > #opensolaris), that I start a thread on OpenSolaris-discuss about this > function, and

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Dick Davies
On 22/03/07, Thomas De Schampheleire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - then there are the command line programs. There might be a good reason for this, but I feel that some of the Solaris-shipped tools are inferior to the GNU tools. For example, I don't see a reason why a simple recursive grep with '

[osol-discuss] Election Voting Opens Mon Mar 12th (00:00 hrs)

2007-03-22 Thread Dennis Clarke
For the sake of clarity : Election Voting Opens Mon Mar 12th (00:00 hrs) Election Voting Closes Mon Mar 26th (24:00 hrs) Which is why I had cast my votes on Monday the 12th of March because the actual character of a person is far more important to me than anything they may say here or t

Re: [osol-discuss] What is OpenSolaris success?

2007-03-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mike Kupfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Jörg" == Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Jörg> Well, I did send the list to opensolaris-discuss and to Mike > Jörg> Kupfer (don't know his Borg name;-) on November 14th 2005. > > *Bzzz* *whrrr* How do you pronounce this? > Resis

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread 陶捷 (Euler Tao)
yes, I'm also a long time Linux user/developer who has recently working on Solaris for a research project base on the DTrace tool. It's true there're plenty of powerful tools in Solaris, but some habitual Linux tools are miss or different. And this makes me feel uncomfortable. Baseing on Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Thomas De Schampheleire
Another thing that came to mind: the fact that Solaris needs a primary partition to install on is a big problem in my view. I had set-up my disk so there were 3 logical partitions of about 15GB for operating systems (linux and I hoped OpenSolaris as well). Obviously, Solaris couldn't install and I

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: blastwave package handling [was Re: Re: joining Sun]

2007-03-22 Thread James Carlson
Jason Ozolins writes: > > Jason Ozolins writes: > > packages). This kind of explains why Sun puts out > > _patches_ rather than new versions of packages - > > because applying the latter can't be done easily to a > > running OS instance. SVR4 package management just > > wasn't designed to work t

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-22 Thread Thomas De Schampheleire
On 3/21/07, Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are some interesting connections to Linux here as well. If you think about it, what do people want when they say they want "Linux"? The Linux kernel? Or the Linux distribution (i.e., GNU)? Could Solaris become a "better Linux than Linux" b

Re: [osol-discuss] Beryl ?

2007-03-22 Thread Erwann Chenede
Hi Horvath, There is no packages yet but you can find details on how to compile Beryl here : http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=100776𘦨 If you're interested in compiz you can find details on how to compile it here : http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?me

[osol-discuss] Beryl ?

2007-03-22 Thread Horvath
Is there a beryl + emerald pkg for OpenSolaris 10 ? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Single Systema Image with OpenSolaris

2007-03-22 Thread Atul Vidwansa
Hi Gustavo, I am not sure if I understand your question completely. There is an application on openSolaris called Sun Cluster which itself is multithreaded and is able to migrate any threaded program from nodes to nodes in failover configuration. It is available for free download on http://www.

[osol-discuss] Re: Update Manager Freezes

2007-03-22 Thread Horvath
well I got a few other responses from other people on this forum. According to them it won't work since Update Manager works only with Sun Solaris (not OpenSolaris Nevada) the reason why it won't work is that "Solaris Express, Community Edition is Sun's binary release for OpenSolaris developers

[osol-discuss] Re: [sfwnv-discuss] Web Stack NG Project: Questions for the Community

2007-03-22 Thread przemolicc
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 09:18:07AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > 2. The currently proposed Apache 2.2.4 integration installs Apache in > > /usr/apache2, thereby _overwriting_ the existing Apache 2.0.x. Valid > > arguments have been made pro, and against this approach, with the > > sugge

[osol-discuss] Re: Traditional Chinese locale bug (was: Re: Video Problem in SX59)

2007-03-22 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Hi Ienup (& Jack): I knew that once you saw those three simple words (& they are in plain English), you would instantly recognize the potential calamity--and the uproar--that they may cause. I am also sure you will now sympathize why I have been so allusive about this matter, This thing (not

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Web Stack NG Project: Questions for the Community

2007-03-22 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Thursday 22 March 2007 12:57 am, Bob Palowoda wrote: > You might have to have sym links for /etc/apache and /var/apache also. > The runtime environment is controlled by apache APR utilities. This is about the time zones start lookin' good...in fact, that should be the reccomended way to run P

[osol-discuss] Re: [sfwnv-discuss] Web Stack NG Project: Questions for the Community

2007-03-22 Thread przemolicc
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 12:28:59PM -0400, Stefan Teleman wrote: > Hi. > > The ARC Cases for the WebStack NG Project have been submitted for review > (and hopefully approval), and i would like to ask our community's input > regarding two important questions which have come up during our discussio